Thread: Just need a lil help.

I still can't understand the popularity of Sustanon. Everyone who contemplates using AS for the first time always come up with sustanon. Way too much hype IMO.

I would stick to a single ester. If you can handle ED or EOD injections Prop would be my first choice. Less water retention and , for me, less side effects. Next option would be Test E. or Test Cyp. Less frequent injection intervals. In the end test is test. No matter what your decision comes to you are going to gain a considerable amount of weight. The real challenge is maintaining as much of that weight as possible once you've ended that regime.Hopefully as you continue your reading you'll understand why I have these opinions.

One absolutely horrible side effect i've noticed over the years is the constant female companionship due to my massive PUMP

I do understand your opinions and appreciate the response. I understand why a singular test ester would be more beneficial for the fact that you would get that single ester in a higher dose as apposed to sustanon250 where you get 4 esters but at a lower dose I presume. But wouldn't the 4 esters of different time release intervals be more beneficial to someone newer to AS?

Originally Posted by Game_Over84

I do understand your opinions and appreciate the response. I understand why a singular test ester would be more beneficial for the fact that you would get that single ester in a higher dose as apposed to sustanon250 where you get 4 esters but at a lower dose I presume. But wouldn't the 4 esters of different time release intervals be more beneficial to someone newer to AS?

No, how would it? Test E 500mg, 1 shot a week 10-14 weeks, end of story

I'm seeing the ups and downs to both sides. While Test E will give you a more potent source of ester, it would cost more to acquire 500mg, as you would more than likely need to purchase 2-250mg vials for just one week. Where as you can use one vial of sustanon250 twice in one week (150mg per prepared syringe). So the cost affect seems less for Sus, but also read that it isn't as good for maintaining blood levels.

Originally Posted by Game_Over84

I'm seeing the ups and downs to both sides. While Test E will give you a more potent source of ester, it would cost more to acquire 500mg, as you would more than likely need to purchase 2-250mg vials for just one week. Where as you can use one vial of sustanon250 twice in one week (150mg per prepared syringe). So the cost affect seems less for Sus, but also read that it isn't as good for maintaining blood levels.

huh? no, 1ml of test E is ussually 250-300mgs, sust is same. So either way your going to be taking 2mls a week. You need to look this stuff up cause you are way off

are you using HG? as in it comes in amps? or ugl where its in vials, ive never seen gear in 1ml vials.

The sustanon250 comes in 1ml amp containing 250mg

Originally Posted by Game_Over84

The sustanon250 comes in 1ml amp containing 250mg

so u still need to use 2 amps a week

That is possible that I would have to. But Ive done some research where they said one amp split in one week would be enough for significant gains and lessen the chance of sever side effects. Im not saying I know what im talking about. Cause im very new to this and I know pretty much next to nothing about products and cycling. Just know about the research I have done thus for.

Originally Posted by kicka19

are you using HG? as in it comes in amps? or ugl where its in vials, ive never seen gear in 1ml vials.

shit, seems like you both need to read more.

You can find vials or amps in UGL. I can't say for sure but I've never purchased any pharm grade AS that has been more than a single dose. Unless you choose to make them more than a single dose. EX: organon deca. 2ml @100mg/ml. = 1 vial.

Brother, the best thing you can do is look into everything yourself. read other people's experience and go from there. 99% of the people that offer advice are not doctors and anyone that tries to justify the use of steroids are only fooling themselves. It's a drug and very addictive one at that with some serious side effects. I believe a lot of people assume that since they didn't get acne, hair loss, or a bad temper that everything is under control. The damage is internal. Bad cholesterol, high BP, hardening of the arteries and several other lurking conditions that slowly strip away your longevity. that's the end of my rant.
If you're gonna use sust. make sure you take advantage of the short esters, which means at least EOD injections for the Prop. ED IMO. Look up half-lifes.I'm amazed at the people that don't even know what that is
Read, learn and use the least amount you're comfortable with.

Thanks for all of your advice. I have done the thorough research on all the side affects of AS. I know whats at stake and the risk. I guess at some point you just are willing to try anything. I think I will go with Sus. just for one cycle to get that experience whether it be good or bad under my belt. If it happens to work then I may stick with it, if not I will try a single Test T. Once again thank you for all your help in this matter.

Originally Posted by ROID

shit, seems like you both need to read more.

You can find vials or amps in UGL. I can't say for sure but I've never purchased any pharm grade AS that has been more than a single dose. Unless you choose to make them more than a single dose. EX: organon deca. 2ml @100mg/ml. = 1 vial.

Brother, the best thing you can do is look into everything yourself. read other people's experience and go from there. 99% of the people that offer advice are not doctors and anyone that tries to justify the use of steroids are only fooling themselves. It's a drug and very addictive one at that with some serious side effects. I believe a lot of people assume that since they didn't get acne, hair loss, or a bad temper that everything is under control. The damage is internal. Bad cholesterol, high BP, hardening of the arteries and several other lurking conditions that slowly strip away your longevity. that's the end of my rant.
If you're gonna use sust. make sure you take advantage of the short esters, which means at least EOD injections for the Prop. ED IMO. Look up half-lifes.I'm amazed at the people that don't even know what that is
Read, learn and use the least amount you're comfortable with.

what i said is ugl gear comes in ussually 10ml vials and HG comes in amps, how is that not correct? I would not use sust under any circumstances if I had a choice between other single esters, it has no benifet

It may or may not have benefits. What works for you may not work for me and vice versa. I think the best way to find out is find out myself. I know several people on Sus who have no complaints what so ever. I didnt really hear anything bad about it til reading forums. If it doesnt work for me it doesnt work lesson learned. End of story.

Ugh...we just went over this not too long ago. IMHO, sust is "ok" but there are far better options. Here is the thread with some info and some links to a few articles that explain why sust is not best suited for BB.

sustanon250 vs test E

LOL, well try rat poisin also. IF it doesnt work well you learned! Sust is a newb test. It sounds all fancy but really isnt worth it at all. As victor says it is just ok, why not use something you know is good instead?