Thread: beginner cycle suggestions?

500mg Test Cyp week 1-10
Dbol 30mg every day weeks 1-5
Personally I hate clomid
Nolva or aromasin is a better choice

Originally Posted by superfly

Hey guys
I was trying to see if anybody would give me their thoughts on whether this is a good beginning cycle or what differences i should make. I am 20 years old, 6'3 and 215 lbs. I've been lifting for about 2 years. This is my first time juicing.
Week 1-3: Test Cyp 200 mg. a week, up dose to 300 mg. from week 3-10
Week 1-4: Dianabol 20 mg. a day
Clomid 2 weeks after last injection for pct
Does look like side effects will easily occur?
This is all based off research i've done online and reading different forums.
Obviously i will keep a strict diet and a thorough workout. The only thing im worried about is turning into a bloated body full of water. I'm tying to bulk and also keep my results. Any suggestions?

KungFu is right (and his suggested doses are fair), you want to keep your test dose the same for the entire cycle. If your diet and training methods are in order, I wouldn't worry about getting bloated.

You can use clomid for post, I do. Nolva is much stronger and I often get acne when I use it. Aromasin is good stuff, better than adex.

You should also think about using some HCG, about 500iu e5d. I like to run Proviron as well, works like a charm for me, if not try some adex. Your cycle is not too heavy, so I wouldn't anticipate any bad sides if you run everything correctly. Good luck.

Ok that sounds reasonable, up the dosage. The only thing I'm worried about is seeing that this is my first cycle it might be a heavy load? I was also thinking about milk thistle while running my cycle.

should i run the hcg 500ui mg e5d during my cycle or with the clomid during pct? Also should i brake up the injections into two per week or just one? Where is a solid place to inject? I've heard the shoulder or quad. Im thinking a 20 gauge syringe, good?

500mg of test is not that much. Some use 200mg for simple HRT. Milk thistle/Liv 52 is common practice and you should use it.

Take your first shot of HCG 1 week after you first start your cycle.

It's your choice if you want to run HCG during post, I always do, and some don't. Seeing how your cycle is not that complex, you might not have to run it during PCT.

Try to break your injections up 2-3 times a week. 20 guage pinz are too big, get 22-23 gauge and a set of extra 18-20 gauge pinz to extract with.

Gluts and quads work best. Shoulders take a bit more practice. Read up on how to inject properly and be sure to rotate sites.

Use slin pins for HCG and shoot sub q. You can do 500iu e5d or 250iu 2X a week. Doesn't really matter.

Hey thank you very much VictorZ06 and Kung Fu i appreciate and i am ready to begin my cycle and i am excited and confident in how it will work out and my results. I'll post also how it is going just in case anybody else is thinking about the same type of cycle as a novice.

Keep us posted, just be sure to maintain a proper diet and don't deprive your body from sleep. Good luck!

why i see guys hate clomids?