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    Steroid Law! Scare Tactics?

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    I was recently reading about the law and how it applies to steroids, and I read something that was shocking. Being as someone who has never bought before, I noticed how it said that some people who order online get their packages seized by customs. Not a surprise to me, but then it went on to say that some of these seizures actually lead to arrests and convictions. Could this actually happen? Couldn't people get this stuff shipped to them by accident and stuff like that? How can they do this and if so, does anybody know if it has actually happened to anyone or is this just scare tactics for me to try and get me to buy these peoples books and tapes and stuff.

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    They have bigger fish to fry than someone receiving a small package with a bottle or two. They're worried about distribution/ the intent to sell/profit. From what I've read, they usually send you a warning letter, or ask you if you want to pick up the package with your prescription. In that case, I would ignore the letter and absolutely never order anything again online. I think the research Chemicals are technically legal and they're probably shipped domestically so they wouldn't go through customs - at least the impression I was under. This is exactly why I wanted to use prohormone suppliments instead. at least the PCT, the SERMS, aren't scheduled drugs. In the case of steroids, they would have to take you to court and prove that you intended to have them shipped to you. They wouldn't go through the hasel of searching your home and home computers unless you had a package big enough to warrant mass sales/distribution on your part.

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    Yes they will bust you...if not feds the local authorities can do a controlled delivery. I wouldn't order anything controlled from overseas. I have ordered PCT things from mexico and that was searched but they didn't take my things being they are not controlled. Steroids are controlled and just as bad as having crack or heroin sent through the mail.

    Bottom line is you risk your freedom to be involved in the purchase, sale, or use of steroids.

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    Every time I read about this it reminds me how much this sucks.

    I have a labrum tear in my right hip. I may have to wait a year for a consult, and another two for surgery. It will not heal - not on its own. Labrum tears don't. They don't get enough blood supply.

    I can't help but wonder what might happen if I ran GH, or something like Anavar.

    But for some reason I cannot comprehend, GH is prohibitively expensive and my understanding is that doctors are strongly discouraged from using it - they aren't even trained on how to use it when they go through med school. Ditto anabolics - why aren't they being used medically to enhance post-op healing, for example. I mean, that's what these drugs do, right? Enhance protein synthesis, build up your blood, you get better nutrient delivery and hence better recovery... right?

    So how come nobody is prescribed a short course of AAS post-surgery?

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    I think doctors would end up with a lot of malpractice lawsuits, honestly. Even though steroids can do a lot of good and increase protein synthesis, anything that gives you excess hormones will have a lot of side effects. I wish doctors would allow it, as long as you agree to sign a waver. I wish I had something anabolic when I had that trap injury. It didn't heal for 6-8 months! I quit working out because I didn't see the point if I couldn't work out my whole body and do compound movement exercises. I would have gladly paid for a few shots of Test E or Deca or something. They sure had no problem giving me addictive painkillers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    Every time I read about this it reminds me how much this sucks.

    I have a labrum tear in my right hip. I may have to wait a year for a consult, and another two for surgery. It will not heal - not on its own. Labrum tears don't. They don't get enough blood supply.

    I can't help but wonder what might happen if I ran GH, or something like Anavar.

    But for some reason I cannot comprehend, GH is prohibitively expensive and my understanding is that doctors are strongly discouraged from using it - they aren't even trained on how to use it when they go through med school. Ditto anabolics - why aren't they being used medically to enhance post-op healing, for example. I mean, that's what these drugs do, right? Enhance protein synthesis, build up your blood, you get better nutrient delivery and hence better recovery... right?

    So how come nobody is prescribed a short course of AAS post-surgery?

    Anyone? Anyone?

    Bueller...?
    I didn't know you were injured, built. I am in the exact same boat as you. I have been out of the gym for nearly 4 months with a knee and elbow injury that is getting worse, and I am trying to find a way to get a hold of some GH to repair my body.

    I have the money saved up, but I am just to scared to order after the big bust earlier this year. No Dr will prescribe me GH. I really pisses me off.
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    I've ordered many times over the internet and the first rule is never sign for your package and never have it delivered to your home. If you play the game the right way it reduces your risks greatly.

    My deliveries goto a box and I only pick up after hours. Also, this box is not in my name, nor are the packages.

    I've received one seizure letter and it gave me the option to pick the package up. Obviously that didn't happen.

    Play the game right and your safer than the douche who doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
    I've ordered many times over the internet and the first rule is never sign for your package and never have it delivered to your home. If you play the game the right way it reduces your risks greatly.

    My deliveries goto a box and I only pick up after hours. Also, this box is not in my name, nor are the packages.

    I've received one seizure letter and it gave me the option to pick the package up. Obviously that didn't happen.

    Play the game right and your safer than the douche who doesn't.
    You mean a PO box? Don't you need a name to get one? I'll need to sign up for one.

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    PO box's require ID. If you're creative you could find away to get one that, let's just say doesn't represent the true you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    Every time I read about this it reminds me how much this sucks.

    I have a labrum tear in my right hip. I may have to wait a year for a consult, and another two for surgery. It will not heal - not on its own. Labrum tears don't. They don't get enough blood supply.

    I can't help but wonder what might happen if I ran GH, or something like Anavar.

    But for some reason I cannot comprehend, GH is prohibitively expensive and my understanding is that doctors are strongly discouraged from using it - they aren't even trained on how to use it when they go through med school. Ditto anabolics - why aren't they being used medically to enhance post-op healing, for example. I mean, that's what these drugs do, right? Enhance protein synthesis, build up your blood, you get better nutrient delivery and hence better recovery... right?

    So how come nobody is prescribed a short course of AAS post-surgery?

    Anyone? Anyone?

    Bueller...?

    You can probably get GH as HRT up in Canada if your body test low for it.

    As for Anavar I doubt you can get that from a Dr. I think its most commonly given to kids with stunted growth. As for post-op I would think the TRT would be as much or more of a benefit for you compared to taking Anavar. If you have a great Dr. they might give you Anavar to see if it would help. I am sure bringing some documentation to show why it would help could sway them into trying it. I know when I was put on TRT I asked my doctor about estrogen and he said if it becomes an issue we can talk about drugs to control that. I assume that drugs like Arimidex etc would have been considered if I mentioned it, or if estrogen became an issue. Can't hurt to bring it up, but with something like Anavar I would bring info taken from a medical journal to back up your idea. I find that doctors really listen to you when you show interest in your own health and show them you do the research. Thats how I got put on TRT by opening my big pie hole!

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    Quote Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
    PO box's require ID. If you're creative you could find away to get one that, let's just say doesn't represent the true you.

    not following u. is it as simple as a fake id?

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    TrojanMan, GH by scrip is no problem - but it's expensive as hell! Oxandrolone is not even a prescription drug here - it IS in the states, but not here. There's a push to bring it in to help AIDS patients, hopefully that'll happen in my lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    TrojanMan, GH by scrip is no problem - but it's expensive as hell! Oxandrolone is not even a prescription drug here - it IS in the states, but not here. There's a push to bring it in to help AIDS patients, hopefully that'll happen in my lifetime.
    I thought in Canada the drugs and medical are free? Is it just the medical free, and you pay for the drugs? If that is the case then hell yea that is expensive stuff! You might need a second job, or make the husband get another one!

    Thats weird Anavar is not a drug there. Do they use Anadrol for HIV and AIDS there? They do here and that is WAY stronger. (obviously you know this)

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    I don't think GH would help with a labrum tear, built.

    People who get controlled deliveries are usually dealers, and the feds bust them after watching them and compiling evidence for some time prior to the bust.
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    Pirate, there's an ortho in the US who is injecting GH into the joint capsule to heal cartilage. Not sure if it would apply to ME, but hey, I'm all about stepping up to the plate in the name of science!

    TrojanMan, medical is covered by our health plan (which is NOT free, we are taxed to death!) but drugs are not part of this, unless it's something catastrophic at which point pharmacare steps in. Our drugs ARE a whole lot cheaper here owing to how their purchase is negotiated. And my workplace extended health benefits pay for my medications - unless they're not on the "approved" list (I need to fail the "max peak" test in order to get coverage for GH. Got any pointers?)

    Anadrol for AIDS - dunno. I haven't looked into Anadrol for myself. Too strong for teh girliez, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Built View Post
    TrojanMan, medical is covered by our health plan (which is NOT free, we are taxed to death!) but drugs are not part of this, unless it's something catastrophic at which point pharmacare steps in. Our drugs ARE a whole lot cheaper here owing to how their purchase is negotiated. And my workplace extended health benefits pay for my medications - unless they're not on the "approved" list (I need to fail the "max peak" test in order to get coverage for GH. Got any pointers?)

    Anadrol for AIDS - dunno. I haven't looked into Anadrol for myself. Too strong for teh girliez, no?
    That explains it. I know you Canadians are taxed to death. I remember cigs being $2 a pack here and when I went to Montreal to visit a friend they were $7 a pack. I can't imagine the price now. I don't smoke but I noticed this while in a gas station.

    Anadrol wouldn't be something you would want to take. If they do sell Anadrol there for AIDS patients I would be shocked they have decided not to have Anavar. Anadrol is a nastier drug but probably more common in AIDS patients. I have always read Anavar being best in women and children, and probably most widely used in children with growth issues.

    Anavar is great for women..I've known a few females using it that looked very female yet very large muscles.

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    One of these days I'll cross the Anavar bridge. It IS a good drug - I've researched it thoroughly. It is NOT available, even by prescription, in Canada.
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