Thread: Another anabolic noob with questions

Originally Posted by omni

hey guys just found this forum a little while ago and its looks like a great community! As the title says i am new to anabolics and thinking about starting my first cycle in about 4 months currently i am

turning 20 soon (yes i know a bit young to start roids)

Way too young.

Originally Posted by omni

6'2
240 and cutting

my plan is to start a cycle of test and d-bol shortly after my birthday which by that time i hope to be around 210-220. I have been lifting on and off for 3 years and only taking it serious for 1 of those three years.

Only one year seriously? You're nowhere near ready for this. You've got a whole lot of growing coming to you courtesy of your youth and gender. Twenty and male is the best damned anabolic there is. Just eat and lift, and you'll grow like a bad weed.

Originally Posted by omni

throught my entire lifting i have never bulked which brings me to my first question.'

should i wait longer and try bulking first and see what gains i get or just go balls to the wall and start a cycle while bulking for my first time and get some amazing gains.

Your gains will be amazing without AAS. Save that for when your gains are no longer amazing.

Originally Posted by omni

my next question is if i do choose to start where is the best place to inject i skimmed the sticky about injection spots but noticed that the buttocks was not listed. i always thought this was a great spot to inject

lastly i was looking at getting my gear from "our unkown *******" for those of you who know the site im talking about is there stuff legit?

thanks so much for taking the time to read this if you did!

What do you currently bench, squat and deadlift?

What calories and how many grams of protein, carb and fat do you consume for maintenance and how much of a reduction are you running for this cut?

go with testo+primo+winstrol and get real human gear...do 12 weeks cycle

built, looking back it has been more like 5 years in and out of the gym with two of those years being serious. my bench max was around 200lb i would say around 5 months ago but do to inactivity has likely dropped to 180 (pathetic for my height/weight i know) squats around 240 and Dead lift around 230

Originally Posted by chrito

go with testo+primo+winstrol and get real human gear...do 12 weeks cycle

chrito could you explain what you mean by real human gear. is that a brand?

Originally Posted by omni

built, looking back it has been more like 5 years in and out of the gym with two of those years being serious. as of now i would say my bench max is around was around 200lb i would say around 5 months ago but do to inactivity has probley droped to 180 (pathetic for my height/weight i know) squats around 240 and Dead lift around 230

Okay, so it looks like you have plenty of room to grow based on your lifts. Your squat and dead are bodyweight. I'm a middle-aged woman with injuries and I front squat and RDL heavier-than-bodyweight.

You sound like you know how to apply yourself when you do the work, so DO it. Post up your diet and your training, get your body properly conditioned for this, and when you stop making gains, you can decide what your next step will be.

For right now, using AAS would be premature - your gains won't be THAT much higher "on" than they will be "off" for this first part. Wait a bit, do a bit more reading while you get your shit together.

My .02

thanks built i really appreciate the input you have given. though when i did hit that 200lb on my bench i also hit a massive plateau and was unable to get past, but i think its a safe assumption that if i could have overcome it if i were bulking at that time. so i think i will go ahead get my diet going for some gains after i finish cutting finally and see where i get.

and if anyone else has any opions on this feel free to chime in!

You won't regret waiting a bit while you get ready.

Drop me a PM if you need any help with your cut.

human gear is pharmacy gear like norma,schering,asia pharma,etc

ugl gear are gear made in garages,home kitchens and this gear are full of shit and you can get fast infections and later problems!

go with :

500mgprimobolan a week 1-10
500mg testocypionate a week 1-10
50mg winstrol a day 1-6
50mg proviron a day 1-10
clomids for end


its bes cutting cycle with best quality gear!

Originally Posted by chrito

human gear is pharmacy gear like norma,schering,asia pharma,etc

ugl gear are gear made in garages,home kitchens and this gear are full of shit and you can get fast infections and later problems!

go with :

500mgprimobolan a week 1-10
500mg testocypionate a week 1-10
50mg winstrol a day 1-6
50mg proviron a day 1-10
clomids for end


its bes cutting cycle with best quality gear!

I'd take the winny 5-10 or 4-10, hardens everything up (your gains) at the end. Have had more luck using it at the back end of a cycle instead of the front. Good luck!

you can do tabs for all 10 weeks,just add some liver tabs.

Originally Posted by chrito

you can do tabs for all 10 weeks,just add some liver tabs.

10 weeks of AAS in oral form is a BIG no-no. No matter how much liv52 or milk thistle you take. Besides, 10 weeks of winny will dry you out and make you more prone to injury. Winny does a great job of hardening you up, and that's why I use it from the middle to the end of my programs.

i always use it for 10 weeks..sometimes even do 1-4 6-10

but if you take shots,then you can easy do 10 weeks..pros i talk with them,take zambons for 14-16 weeks!

I would say your too young for aas. If your cutting you could try using clen, albuterol or T3. Those along with training and diet should help lean you up.

Originally Posted by yokedmofo

Shiiiiiiiiit I've done plenty of oral cycles that long with no problem at all. And also have juiced for years on end with no breaks, but thats only cause im a rebal and dont mind dieing at the age of 60.

I say go juice little homie. Just read up extesively, know what your doing, and eat and lift like crazy. You should never have to ask these questions, cause you already read about it, take your first cycle and get it over with.

This guy is 19, dont be a moron. He is nowhere near ready to take a cycle. From his posts it doesnt seem like he is overly knowledgeable about AAS or training/nutrition.

I get the impression you know a lot about AAS, please direct this knowledge toward those who can (safely) put it to good use.

he can wait 1-2 years..but i was stupid as hell and start juice with 17..omfg idiot i was

trey brewer:


Man wish I was that heavy when I was 22, crazy. good genetics and aas baby!

Originally Posted by yokedmofo

well bro like I said if you dont mind the sides of taking juice at a young age then go for it. But if you want to be PERFECTLY healthy then read and wait. If young people didnt juice when their 19 then you wouldnt see youngsters like Trey Brewer out there. And dont tell me its genetics! And please be careful with the moron shit, its not polite

Of course its not just genetics, I completely agree. But....

Taking steriods at 19 + extensive knowledge base of steriods/training/nutrition = ok

Taking steriods at 19 + none of the above(seems to be the case here) = not ok

Originally Posted by yokedmofo

Shiiiiiiiiit I've done plenty of oral cycles that long with no problem at all. And also have juiced for years on end with no breaks, but thats only cause im a rebal and dont mind dieing at the age of 60.

I say go juice little homie. Just read up extesively, know what your doing, and eat and lift like crazy. You should never have to ask these questions, cause you already read about it, take your first cycle and get it over with.

Maybe he does mind dying at 60. Your choice to juice to your eyeballs, start at a young age and never come off but dont offer advice to anyone else.

Originally Posted by Shadowcam

Maybe he does mind dying at 60. Your choice to juice to your eyeballs, start at a young age and never come off but dont offer advice to anyone else.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by chrito

you can do tabs for all 10 weeks,just add some liver tabs.

Do you know how bad winny is on your lipids? I can't believe you didn't have a heart attack and fall out.
And please stop giving bad advice to new members. I will start deleting your bad info if you do not think about what you are posting.

^^That's why I said use it for only 5 weeks.