fast action S-drol cycles

herortjr · 01-23-2009, 02:12 PM

Hi there, I am 43 years old 5,9 and 215 lbs. I have been lifting for quite some time on and off, I started back up about five months ago and I am looking to gain some strength and also bulk up. i am looking into taking s-drol. can anyone pls advise as to what cycles I should do . thank you.

**Built** · 01-23-2009, 03:20 PM

Hey, another old fart!

How much fat is on you now, any idea?

Can you describe your diet and your training?

No point getting into the other stuff if your diet and training are fighting you.

chrito · 01-23-2009, 05:10 PM

my sugest...

400mg primobolan depot a week 1-10
500mg propionate or cypionate a week 1-10
50mg winstrol a day 1-8
50-100mg proviron a day 1-12
for pct clomids only!

here you can get pure gains!

**Built** · 01-23-2009, 06:09 PM

Chrito, you've been warned. Enough with the newbies.

herortjr · 01-23-2009, 07:44 PM

I am not quite sure what my body fat is. I train every day about 2 hours on weigths and 45 to 50 mins. on cardio. my diet is still to be desired. i just have to work hard and maintaining a regular routine for my diet, but I do stay away from junk food, sodas. I do eat alot of chicken, fish, brown rice, salads and I do drink plenty of water.

**Built** · 01-23-2009, 09:37 PM

The reason I ask about your bodyfat is aromatase. The fatter you are, the more estrogen you produce from testosterone. I'd lean out a bit before running anything - and that means eat less food.

herortjr · 01-24-2009, 05:54 PM

How can i determine what my body fat is. and what do you recomend to lean out besides having a stricter diet. i really don't eat that much, but i could definitely use getting rid of more fat.

**Built** · 01-24-2009, 06:12 PM

What do you weigh now?

Without gaining any more muscle than you have now, what weight do you think you'd need to hit if you were to see abs?

herortjr · 01-24-2009, 06:17 PM

i weigh 215 lbs I'd say i would need to around 190 to 185 to get my definition.

**Built** · 01-24-2009, 06:27 PM

Okay, let's call 185 for you about 10% bodyfat. At 185 and 10% bodyfat you'll have about 165 lbs of lean mass. If this is what you have on you now (let's assume it's close), you are at roughly 22-23% bodyfat currently - for most men, this is "juicy" but not what I think of as truly fat. You probably have a tummy that sticks out more than you would like and you probably have love handles. You probably don't have much if any vascularity in your arms, and your muscles - while full and perhaps even "meaty" - look pretty smooth through your upper body.

Sound about right?

herortjr · 01-24-2009, 07:34 PM

wow you are good. you are right on the money.

herortjr · 01-24-2009, 08:23 PM

well I guess for now, my goal is to reach 185 lbs. and then go from there. or is it okay to run with a cycle, if it's okay what would you suggest.

**Built** · 01-24-2009, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herortjr

wow you are good. you are right on the money.

Most people actually DO know their bodyfat and their lean mass. They just don't know it. I pulled all that information out of YOU.

Quote:

Originally Posted by herortjr

well I guess for now, my goal is to reach 185 lbs. and then go from there. or is it okay to run with a cycle, if it's okay what would you suggest.

Get yourself down to 190 and take pictures. If you want to use something to lean out from there, that would be a good time to do it, since from that point you'll be poised to take advantage of the muscle-conservation of running an anabolic while fairly deep into a cut.

I suggest you clean up your diet before you do ANYTHING - at the moment, you are probably under the impression you can just increase your activity level and lean out. Please don't try to do that, you'll lose all your size.

Have you done a cut before?

herortjr · 01-24-2009, 10:09 PM

No i have never really gone for the cut, but I want to do this right, so if you please can steer me in the right direction and give me suggestions as to what to do. i would apreciate it.

**Built** · 01-24-2009, 10:14 PM

Well, start here: Got Built? » The “Do It Yourself” Diet - Comfort food for life.

Then read this: Got Built? » How to set up a diet - basic carb cycling
then this: Got Built? » Keeping it going - the evolutionary process of fat loss
then this: Got Built? » Baby Got Back
And finally, this: Got Built? » How to do Cardio if you MUST!
(home page: Got Built? » Open Source Fitness - Get started here)

Drop me a line after you get through all that - if you still need to.

herortjr · 01-24-2009, 10:17 PM

Thank you, i will let you know if i have anymore question and how my progress is going.

01-23-2009, 02:12 PM	#1
herortjr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Slatington, PA Posts: 9	fast action S-drol cycles Hi there, I am 43 years old 5,9 and 215 lbs. I have been lifting for quite some time on and off, I started back up about five months ago and I am looking to gain some strength and also bulk up. i am looking into taking s-drol. can anyone pls advise as to what cycles I should do . thank you.

01-23-2009, 03:20 PM	#2
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,120	Hey, another old fart! How much fat is on you now, any idea? Can you describe your diet and your training? No point getting into the other stuff if your diet and training are fighting you. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

01-23-2009, 06:09 PM	#4
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,120	Chrito, you've been warned. Enough with the newbies. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

01-23-2009, 09:37 PM	#6
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,120	The reason I ask about your bodyfat is aromatase. The fatter you are, the more estrogen you produce from testosterone. I'd lean out a bit before running anything - and that means eat less food. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

01-24-2009, 06:12 PM	#8
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,120	What do you weigh now? Without gaining any more muscle than you have now, what weight do you think you'd need to hit if you were to see abs? Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

01-23-2009, 05:10 PM	#3
chrito Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: canada Posts: 202	my sugest... 400mg primobolan depot a week 1-10 500mg propionate or cypionate a week 1-10 50mg winstrol a day 1-8 50-100mg proviron a day 1-12 for pct clomids only! here you can get pure gains!

01-23-2009, 07:44 PM	#5
herortjr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Slatington, PA Posts: 9	I am not quite sure what my body fat is. I train every day about 2 hours on weigths and 45 to 50 mins. on cardio. my diet is still to be desired. i just have to work hard and maintaining a regular routine for my diet, but I do stay away from junk food, sodas. I do eat alot of chicken, fish, brown rice, salads and I do drink plenty of water.

01-24-2009, 05:54 PM	#7
herortjr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Slatington, PA Posts: 9	How can i determine what my body fat is. and what do you recomend to lean out besides having a stricter diet. i really don't eat that much, but i could definitely use getting rid of more fat.

01-24-2009, 06:17 PM	#9
herortjr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Slatington, PA Posts: 9	i weigh 215 lbs I'd say i would need to around 190 to 185 to get my definition.

01-24-2009, 06:27 PM	#10
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,120	Okay, let's call 185 for you about 10% bodyfat. At 185 and 10% bodyfat you'll have about 165 lbs of lean mass. If this is what you have on you now (let's assume it's close), you are at roughly 22-23% bodyfat currently - for most men, this is "juicy" but not what I think of as truly fat. You probably have a tummy that sticks out more than you would like and you probably have love handles. You probably don't have much if any vascularity in your arms, and your muscles - while full and perhaps even "meaty" - look pretty smooth through your upper body. Sound about right? Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

01-24-2009, 07:34 PM	#11
herortjr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Slatington, PA Posts: 9	wow you are good. you are right on the money.

01-24-2009, 08:23 PM	#12
herortjr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Slatington, PA Posts: 9	well I guess for now, my goal is to reach 185 lbs. and then go from there. or is it okay to run with a cycle, if it's okay what would you suggest.

01-24-2009, 10:09 PM	#14
herortjr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Slatington, PA Posts: 9	No i have never really gone for the cut, but I want to do this right, so if you please can steer me in the right direction and give me suggestions as to what to do. i would apreciate it.

01-24-2009, 10:14 PM	#15
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,120	Well, start here: Got Built? » The “Do It Yourself” Diet - Comfort food for life. Then read this: Got Built? » How to set up a diet - basic carb cycling then this: Got Built? » Keeping it going - the evolutionary process of fat loss then this: Got Built? » Baby Got Back And finally, this: Got Built? » How to do Cardio if you MUST! (home page: Got Built? » Open Source Fitness - Get started here) Drop me a line after you get through all that - if you still need to. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

01-24-2009, 10:17 PM	#16
herortjr Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Slatington, PA Posts: 9	Thank you, i will let you know if i have anymore question and how my progress is going.

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