Thread: Confused With Questions

welcome,we are here to help!

first of all you need good diet and plenty cardio..then gear!

for fats lost you need to get some testosterone toprotect muscles from diet to not lost them..then add some hgh with low dosage of t3 and t4..also add some clenbuterol...
you can add some winstroltabs,they work good with t3 and t4 +hgh

if you need more suggest just ask,we are here to help.

At 270lbs and 30% AAS probably isnt a good idea. You need solid diet and training, and a much lower bf%.

Where's Built?

Originally Posted by chrito

welcome,we are here to help!

first of all you need good diet and plenty cardio..then gear!

for fats lost you need to get some testosterone toprotect muscles from diet to not lost them..then add some hgh with low dosage of t3 and t4..also add some clenbuterol...
you can add some winstroltabs,they work good with t3 and t4 +hgh

if you need more suggest just ask,we are here to help.

sweet dicktits disregard everything he just said, excluding the bolded parts.

you need a GREAT diet and great training. gear shouldnt be a consideration at this point

Built's here.

Dude, let's get your eats worked out first. "Normal fat guy diet" is bullshit - it didn't keep it off you, right? It wasn't comfortable for you. There are better ways to diet.

Read this: Got Built? » The “Do It Yourself” Diet - Comfort food for life.

cycling steroids at a high bf% can exponentially increase side effects. i.e. gynocomastia, high blood pressure etc.

Yeah read about "Gyno" ...juices can convert to estrogen at a much higher rate when your BF% is too high.

that means the tits you have now will soon turn into tig ol bitties!!!

we all been there though(finding the gyno cure)!...well most of us.

I would concentrate on loosing bodyfat and getting healthy. Dont know if your doing cardio but you should start with 30-40 mins
3-4 times a week then increase it a little each week till your capable of 6 days a week. I would just do resistance training 3-4 times a week as cardio takes its toll on recovery, just train basic, heavy and hard and if you got spare time on your hands, do more cardio. Stay away from that fat guy diet crap, you can still eat lots of clean food ie 6 meals a day minimum containing moderate to high protein such as lean meats and whey powder(only as a convenience option to wholefood),
moderate clean carbs such as barley, lentils and fruit, healthy fats such as nuts, olive oil, flaxseed oil or fish oil and of course plently of vegies. Slowly decrease calories mainly from carbs as you stagnate and once you get down to below 10%bf you just have to maintain.

Shadowcam, no disrespect intended and I agree with the recommendation of losing fat first, but cardio is a really lousy way to do this. It doesn't burn enough and the body gets used to it.

Lifting is a critical step to hang onto muscle and convince the body to drop fat, you're spot-on there.

I don't like the "six meals" concept, not for cutting. It's too uncomfortable - on a cut, many find it easier to eat fewer, but larger meals; they're more sating. I also don't recommend whey powder for cutting. What little food you get to eat, you're better off chewing it - it's more satisfying than drinking your calories.

Originally Posted by Built

Shadowcam, no disrespect intended and I agree with the recommendation of losing fat first, but cardio is a really lousy way to do this. It doesn't burn enough and the body gets used to it.

Lifting is a critical step to hang onto muscle and convince the body to drop fat, you're spot-on there.

I don't like the "six meals" concept, not for cutting. It's too uncomfortable - on a cut, many find it easier to eat fewer, but larger meals; they're more sating. I also don't recommend whey powder for cutting. What little food you get to eat, you're better off chewing it - it's more satisfying than drinking your calories.

Im assuming the guy who started this thread still wants a muscular physique once he has stripped off the bodyfat as this is a bodybuilding forum.

Ive never heard anyone with a bodybuilding background say cardio is a lousy way of loosing bodyfat unless they have a fast metabolism, obviously this guy does not. Cardio burns alot of calories, anything that increases heart rate does and when the body gets used to a certain amount its time to increase it as I suggested in my first post.

More smaller frequent meals throughout the day is a proven strategy to increase the metabolism as the body gets used to processing foods and also maintains muscle mass as it keeps a steady supply of protein and nutrients in the muscles. I didnt suggest whey, I said use it as a convenience option, meaning if he is not able to eat a wholefood meal for whatever reason then use whey as a alternative not a replacement.

Now I apoligise if Im wrong but Im guessing your a female, if thats the case then your method is fine for females or someone just wanting to lose bodyfat but I think this guys goal is a lean muscular physique, as he posted in the anabolic section.

Originally Posted by chrito

welcome,we are here to help!

first of all you need good diet and plenty cardio..then gear!

for fats lost you need to get some testosterone toprotect muscles from diet to not lost them..then add some hgh with low dosage of t3 and t4..also add some clenbuterol...
you can add some winstroltabs,they work good with t3 and t4 +hgh

if you need more suggest just ask,we are here to help.

thanks for the welcome and your input

Originally Posted by Moondogg

At 270lbs and 30% AAS probably isnt a good idea. You need solid diet and training, and a much lower bf%.

Where's Built?

diet and training wise, will be taken care of. i just have to set my mind.

when do your feel it would be a good number to add gear? with my knee being gimpy i was looking for some help.

Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

sweet dicktits disregard everything he just said, excluding the bolded parts.

you need a GREAT diet and great training. gear shouldnt be a consideration at this point

when is a good time? i was looking for some help now. my diet and training will be taken care of. once i make up my mind and commit myself again.

Originally Posted by Built

Built's here.

Dude, let's get your eats worked out first. "Normal fat guy diet" is bullshit - it didn't keep it off you, right? It wasn't comfortable for you. There are better ways to diet.

Read this: Got Built? » The “Do It Yourself” Diet - Comfort food for life.

the first go around, i jumped in balls deep. i just set my mind and DID NOT CHEAT OR LIE TO MYSELF. i ate low calorie, low fat, low carb, and limit portions. diet was salads, vegetables, jello, whey shakes, low calorie workout bars. meat wise it had to be white; pork, chicken, fish. and avoid other white foods; bread, sugar, cream etc. i became a professional label reader, if it didnt meet my standards i didnt eat it. ate in and pre-made meals and read lots of labels.

after i did my crash diet, i slowly allow myself other foods, once i got to certain number. it took me one month before i could see a difference. after 2.25 months i was a monster. but that was with two good knees.

i didnt feel comfort, i was a machine that didnt feel emotions. i had will-power and stay disciplined. i came up with all sort of ideas during my journey. some that i remember were: stay honest with yourself, stay disciplined, have a strong will set goals....missing 2 others.

thanks for your input and will look to you for advice, i hope you dont mind if i brother you much......

Originally Posted by Chevrolet

cycling steroids at a high bf% can exponentially increase side effects. i.e. gynocomastia, high blood pressure etc.

do you have any proof? not calling you a liar, just like to see some tests to back that up.

Originally Posted by yokedmofo

Yeah read about "Gyno" ...juices can convert to estrogen at a much higher rate when your BF% is too high.

that means the tits you have now will soon turn into tig ol bitties!!!

we all been there though(finding the gyno cure)!...well most of us.

for what i read, the gear i picked did not affect estrogen. im a A-B cup right now......

Originally Posted by Built

Shadowcam, no disrespect intended and I agree with the recommendation of losing fat first, but cardio is a really lousy way to do this. It doesn't burn enough and the body gets used to it.

Lifting is a critical step to hang onto muscle and convince the body to drop fat, you're spot-on there.

I don't like the "six meals" concept, not for cutting. It's too uncomfortable - on a cut, many find it easier to eat fewer, but larger meals; they're more sating. I also don't recommend whey powder for cutting. What little food you get to eat, you're better off chewing it - it's more satisfying than drinking your calories.

my training was 6 days a week, 2 times per. id swicth form cardo to lifting each day. same for upper body and lower body. sunday was rest.

example:
Monday= lower body+ cardio
Tuesday= upper body+lifting


next next

Monday=lower body+lifting
Tuesday=upper body+cardio

i dont care about how much i can lift, i want tone. i feel my knee will give trouble, so i will focus on upper body.

Originally Posted by BasLandis

do you have any proof? not calling you a liar, just like to see some tests to back that up.

The aromatase enzyme that converts Test into Estrogen is found in higher quantities in fat tissue (I don't have a link, but you google that)
I believe Primo can cause gyno. (t0o expensive for too little gain also)
Winstrol IMO is not a good choice for many reasons (joints, better results when you have lower BF, etc)
If I was you and was to run a cycle right now it would be Test and Tren.
You always need Test and Tren is the closest thing you'll find to a body recomp drug. No pills, no need (except ephedrine). Anti-E on hand if needed. Just MHO.

so it seems i need to lose weight first, then add gear.......i was looking to aid my weight loss/injury with gear first. ive heard others use gear at big body fat %/injuries and have GREAT results. once i start im worried about my knee, its the biggest reason why i want to aid my weight loss. dark clouds hit me before in losing my health insurance months before the big car wreck. afterwards i slow slipped back to my 270 LB frame. and used my knee/neck/back as reason to why i couldnt workout. my knee is my crutch and it stills worrys me. still im ready(soon) to attack this.

sorry my posting is hard on the eyes. English is not my first language

Originally Posted by SJ69

The aromatase enzyme that converts Test into Estrogen is found in higher quantities in fat tissue (I don't have a link, but you google that)
I believe Primo can cause gyno. (t0o expensive for too little gain also)
Winstrol IMO is not a good choice for many reasons (joints, better results when you have lower BF, etc)
If I was you and was to run a cycle right now it would be Test and Tren.
You always need Test and Tren is the closest thing you'll find to a body recomp drug. No pills, no need (except ephedrine). Anti-E on hand if needed. Just MHO.

what do test, tren, anti-E stand for?(still a noob)

yea the winstrol had me worried about joints too.

thanks for input

Its probably a real good idea to lose the weight first before trying a first cycle(it is first right?). IMO doing both at the same time can fight against eachother. Hard to gain the muscle you could be making on a cycle when trying to lose a bunch of weight. the A-B cup will disappear once you start to lose the fat and if you have had puberty gyno in youger years, when you lose the fat around the pec area and your pec muscles begin to show through more most or all of the fatty tissue around the nip will vanish.

test= testosterone
tren= trenbolone
anti-e= anti-estrogen
You dont need to worry about juicing right now, test will not work so good on the appeal of your fat loss diet(cause of water retention and appitite control). Hang around this site and ask questions, read through the posts and old post and stickies. You will learn all you need to know about juicing and juices in no time.

And listen well to whatever "BUILT" says she will give you very good advise. Her body speaks for itself!

Originally Posted by yokedmofo

test will not work so good on the appeal of your fat loss diet(cause of water retention and appitite control). !

I agree it's best to wait a little and learn.
But I disagree about the test, you really need to run test on any cycle, unless you can live with the fact you shut down your own test and now have less test in your system than a girl scout. The Anti-E will help with bloat if it becomes a problem.
And many people cycle will on a cut to at least preserve muscle while loosing mass. Me personally though I agree, I'd rather cycle while bulking.

Aromatase does indeed reside in fat. Drop some of that fat before you run anything - as you lean out and actually risk muscle-loss, the cycle makes better sense. If you run it now, you'll blow up from all the estrogen.

None of it will make you lose weight. That part comes from eating less food, flat out. No need to do any cardio at all to make this happen at first, although if you can do a little walking it'll do you a world of good.

Originally Posted by yokedmofo

Its probably a real good idea to lose the weight first before trying a first cycle(it is first right?). IMO doing both at the same time can fight against eachother. Hard to gain the muscle you could be making on a cycle when trying to lose a bunch of weight. the A-B cup will disappear once you start to lose the fat and if you have had puberty gyno in youger years, when you lose the fat around the pec area and your pec muscles begin to show through more most or all of the fatty tissue around the nip will vanish.

test= testosterone
tren= trenbolone
anti-e= anti-estrogen
You dont need to worry about juicing right now, test will not work so good on the appeal of your fat loss diet(cause of water retention and appitite control). Hang around this site and ask questions, read through the posts and old post and stickies. You will learn all you need to know about juicing and juices in no time.

And listen well to whatever "BUILT" says she will give you very good advise. Her body speaks for itself!

first is right, years before i always pasted. after my accident and learning more, i reopened my mind. i just got to get my mind right, so i can commit to diet and training. i know it can to done, since i did it before, just my knee.................i dont want to start and have my knee put a stop to it. i fear it will. i hold a new respect for knee injuries.

whats your take on trenbolone acetate? ive dropped my winny and primo idea. tren seems to solve more of my problems along with other positives pluses. regarding tren ive seen it says "pellets", but the picture shows a liquid,

Originally Posted by Built

Aromatase does indeed reside in fat. Drop some of that fat before you run anything - as you lean out and actually risk muscle-loss, the cycle makes better sense. If you run it now, you'll blow up from all the estrogen.

None of it will make you lose weight. That part comes from eating less food, flat out. No need to do any cardio at all to make this happen at first, although if you can do a little walking it'll do you a world of good.

i believe i could mix in walking, too scared to try running. my former training involved plenty of knee actions, which im trying to avoid. i hope to go 90% upper body and 10% lower. i will try my stationary bike out and see what happens as well. ill need to inventive as well, cause i know how boring it can be doing all upper body. ill mix in some of arm wrestling exercises too.

hope to start soon.

I came from your exact back ground. Had horrible knee blow out that took 8 months to heal and then still wasnt at its best. Try to remember what Arnold said in "Bodybuilding Encyclopidia". After a limb or body part is wounded it heals stronger than it was before(after work ofcourse). And appearently in his case with also a knee injury it happend that way. I on the otherhand still have little problems here and there. But my knee is definetly strong as ox bone. Always remember to lube the joint well before heavy weights(riding bike, light extentions,etc..)

Tren is ok at helping with a diet(a little) and keeping muscle while doing that. But that is a very strong drug for first time cycle. You can have very bad aggression, sleep patterns, libido issues and so on. i agree test is a good safe way to begin a juicing lifestyle, its safe at moderate doses. But like Built and I both said not a good choice while fat loss is your primary goal. Its best IMO to try a cycle after cutting a little and a few months(or more) of intense training. That way you get the most out of your cycle and money.

Pellets are what farmers give their cattle to gain weight. Some humans can crush them up and convert them into an injectable liquid.

And if your going to go with gear despite all other advise. You might want to look into deca durabolin(Nandrolone). The deca will hold fluids in your joints and may help a bit considering your knee joint issue. I know my knee has always felt strong and good while on deca. Though it will give you a puffy look at times depending on the day so again best to lose the weight first.

Walking is great.