Ill be running nolva for pct (unless I can get torem).
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5' 10''
180
7 years experience
I know theres been a few threads on hcg lately, but there were some differing opinions. My first cycle was just test and I responded great. So for my second cycle, Im planning on running just test again for 8-10 weeks. Do I need hcg for this cycle since it is not very long?
Ill be running nolva for pct (unless I can get torem).
22
5' 10''
180
7 years experience
How much Test are you running?? Did you use HCG with your first cycle? if not how did you recover and whats side effects if any did you get? and are you running same dose as your first cycle or increasing?
If you got good results from your first I would keep the dosage the same for another run. If the dosage is 500mg/w or under and a short cycle I wouldnt worry with HCG although Im sure many others will advise you to run a low dose such as 500iu's spread out weekly throughout the cycle which is fine.
Im a big believer in keeping everything as simple as possible and not using drugs you dont need as you only increase the risk of more side effects resulting in even more drugs to counteract the sides. I prefer clomid for PCT starting 14 days after last shot 100mg for 5 on 2 off 5 on, many others prefer Nolva, it all comes down to trial and error and what works for you.
When or if you start running other compounds such as Deca you may want to consider adding HCG and using a more aggressive PCT. Also remember you are young or as Chrito would say 'jung' and will recover alot easier than a 40 year old.
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test e at 400 for 8 weeks. PCT will be torem if I can get it otherwise nolva. Im considering possibly throwing something in at for last half or few weeks of the cycle to harden up a little bit, but I am most likely going to just stick to the test. Im not doing it until the summer either so nothing is really set in stone.
And no, I didnt use hcg on my first cycle. I feel I came off fine and I kept the majority of my gains. I also agree with you shadowcam, Im trying to keep my cycle short and sweet because it worked great last time and I think its a lot easier on the body. For this cycle, Im going to just see how it goes. Im not trying to gain 20+ pounds or anything. Instead, Id like somewhere in the 10+lbs range with minimum bloat. Im just wondering about the hcg because Im all for anything that will help me come off easier, but Im not sure how much it would help on a shorter cycle like mine.
you could use hcg but i do not think its needed
Originally Posted by Luke8395
Sounds good, I was def leaning towards skipping the hcg. Im almost positive Im going to just stick with the test, but does anyone have any suggestions for possibly throwing something else in for the end of the cycle (winnie, anavar, t-bol at the begining, etc)?
Assuming you are running a long ester test, TBol is a great jump start for hardness.
Week
1-2 60 mg/day
3-4 30 mg/day
5 10 mg/day
I always recommend HCG
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How to Use HCG
Thanks guys. the t-bol sounds pretty good and Ill look into getting hcg as well.
Pirate, would you use the t-bol to jump start or would you use it at the end to harden up the gains?
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