Thread: virgin to aas

drink lots of water, minimize sodium intake

could take a small EC stack if your worried about the water retention

**update**
1st stick will be sunday!! (I will keep this post updated and log my cycle frequently)
Just a thought here:
As I understand the natural production of testosterone in the healthy male body is roughly 6mg/day...
250mg/wk?? Will that be useless?? It SEEMS as tho it is a signifanct enough amount higher then a rough natural prodution.. With that being said, am I ignorant to think I could yield positive results from a lighter dosage?
I have read that many find such a small dose pointless/waste of time and money...

But,
Is 6-10lbs mass with little to no water retention a respectable expectation with such a small dose?? (Summer is almost here, lol)

Again, this is just a thought...

Interesting. This article suggests it's about 20-30mg per day (2-3mg per day for a female).

Testosterone

This translates to 140-210 mg per week for a man. A 250mg per week cycle is just barely over HRT levels - my buddy takes 200mg per week for his HRT (he's sixty). I take 2g of 1% testosterone transdermal daily, providing 20mg of testosterone to my skin and about 2mg to my system (about 10% is absorbed). This puts me at the high end of normal.

Built!!!

Glad to hear from u!

Great article on production of natural test production and utilization!! Thanks for that, I stand corrected!

I did a search regarding and I think I read what I said on sum doctor website or sumthing, I am sticking to 4000mgs x 10wks broken down to 250mg every 4day and 5day (roughly 400mg/wk) please correct me if I'm wrong...

Btw, my wife loves ur build, showed her ur pix

I don't know if you stand corrected or not, but this seemed reasonable given my buddy's and my own HRT dosings.

If I find something more "official" I'll post it up.

Thank you for the props on my build! Does your wife lift?

i dont exactly know either, ive done more research and have seem a few different amounts... the average of my research seems to be between 5-15mg/day (with teens obviously being the higher amount)
90-95% coming from the testes...

i dont know if any of this articles are accurate but with that being said i do feel that 250mg/wk should yield atleast some sort of reasonable result...

so anyway my pins are 1.5 inch 21g, any suggestions on where to shoot? i was considering this: right glute, left glute, right thigh, left thigh... ??


she does lift, but not for comp or anything, she is an athlete, so running/sprint trainging are her main techniques, ill let her know u said gracious...

thanks again to every1 for all your help!

18 to draw
23 1" quad & delt
23 1.5" glute
Rotate locations. Just my opinion.

Originally Posted by jchappj

18 to draw
23 1" quad & delt
23 1.5" glute
Rotate locations. Just my opinion.

chapp, thanks bro...

these are amps, does that make a dif? is it bad to draw and inject with the same needle?

if they are from amps try not to touch the bottom glass , you will dull the tip, making infections easier , and increasing the pain of the injection

most of us swap pins from the drawing to the injecting, actually.

Dont draw with a inj pin and for fuck sake dont inject with a draw pin!

well, first 250 was today... no pain, no irritation, no blood whatsoever!!!!
hope it did it correct!

this is what i felt:
thigh..... slide in easy about 1/2 inch then a lil resistance... then had to push a lil harder, felt as if it popped through something(hoping that was the muscle) started shaking, lol! gently pressed through 1ml

lemme know if this sounds right!!!

btw i asperated and a lil air bubble came threw... no blood not even after i pulled it out

The shaking will go away! Remember to clean with alcohol!

ladies and gents,

i did clean with alchohol before and after inject... i didnt change pins tho, i used a 20g 1 inch for draw and inject.. it was my very first time, lol.. soo, a lil extrad oil came out the tip when i was gettin the air out of the syringe... interestingly enough, i wasnt shaking at all until it popped threw the second thing(muscle i think...) - the skin and fat was easy as fuck... didnt feel shit
-is the lil air bubble normal when aspriating?
-is the lil "pop" im talkin about the muscle?
-oh and btw, no bruising or redness today, just a lil sore when rubbing on it

face feels a lil oily today, dunno if its aas, my nerves, or the weather! lol

well, again thank you every1 for helping..

hows every1 been,
well its only day three, and obviously i havent seen results yet... but i am starting to get "morning wood" again which i havent since i was a teen... dunno if its aas or me just having good dreams lol... well hope to hear from yous!

today is an off day from workout...

tmrw is chest and tris!
barbell bench 4sets
decline 3sets
incline 3 sets
flys 2 set
pullover 2 sets
tri extensions 4 sets
dips 3sets
bench dips 3 sets
reverse extensions 4 sets
(look good???)
oh and i felt alot less lethargic in the morning today..

You won't see results in only a couple days lol, be patience buddy. That's key and alot of people give up for this reason and lack of motivation. Keep it up man.