Thread: need cycle advice

Holy shit, you are 6'2" and only 140?
Have you tried eating first?

yes i actually eat alot and have a good diet its just a fast metabolism and i can only put on like 10 pounds no matter what i do that is why im turning to this....

If you want legit advice you're going to have to post your diet and training routine... in detail.

Trust me, we can seriously help you here.
You just have to be willing to open your mind and make the necessary changes.

You do realize if you can't gain weight by eating and training you won't gain by taking AAS!

You have a lot to learn before you make this step. Learn how to eat. Learn how to train. Learn how to eat again.

After a few years of this then you can think about making the jump.

Of course you probably won't listen...

I take 3 protein shakes a day Morning after training and night. I have give or take 4 to 5 cups or oats. I eat apples with lots or peanut butter. A burrito around 2:30. Also eat about 2-3 cans of tuna. 2 Chicken breasts for dinner and eat snacks in between meals and a couple sandwiches. There is other food but it changes because i go to college and live in dorms so i eat depending what THEY are serving so its a little tough.

I DO TAKE ADVISE BUT IF YOU JUST BEING A SMART ASS OR A JERK DONT EVEN POST A REPLY HERE BECAUSE IM NOT GOING TO LISTEN. IM LOOKING FOR REAL AND SERIOUS ADVISE. THANKS

Monday--- Chest Biceps
Tuesday-- Back Triceps abs
Wednesday --- Break
Thursday---Shoulders Lats abs
Friday--- Legs
Saturday--- Break
Sunday--- Little cardio

I do change up my routine from dumbbells to machines and different types of workouts.

And i have a buddy that recommended this to me his friend gained 30 pounds on the cycle im planning on doing

Originally Posted by TronTron

I take 3 protein shakes a day Morning after training and night. I have give or take 4 to 5 cups or oats. I eat apples with lots or peanut butter. A burrito around 2:30. Also eat about 2-3 cans of tuna. 2 Chicken breasts for dinner and eat snacks in between meals and a couple sandwiches. There is other food but it changes because i go to college and live in dorms so i eat depending what THEY are serving so its a little tough.

I DO TAKE ADVISE BUT IF YOU JUST BEING A SMART ASS OR A JERK DONT EVEN POST A REPLY HERE BECAUSE IM NOT GOING TO LISTEN. IM LOOKING FOR REAL AND SERIOUS ADVISE. THANKS

Monday--- Chest Biceps
Tuesday-- Back Triceps abs
Wednesday --- Break
Thursday---Shoulders Lats abs
Friday--- Legs
Saturday--- Break
Sunday--- Little cardio

I do change up my routine from dumbbells to machines and different types of workouts

here are a couple of suggestions...
1. track what you eat in here (fitday.com)
---this will give you a more detailed description of your diet. When bulking you probably want to go for 20-25x your bodyweight in total calories. and and 2g of protein per pound of body weight. Whether you cycle or not, if you want to bulk up this is a NECESSITY.
2. that is not very much detail as far as your routine goes. And to be honest it is not very well thought out. It is a common mistake but you should think about grouping your lifts in catergories. pushing one day, pulling the next, then lower body. right now you are all over the place. you have chest (pushing) with biceps (pulling). that means you are working your back and biceps two days in a row. (when you do biceps you are working your back an vice versa)
3. as for your cycle... sorry but it sux too. just being honest. but i can help you with that too.
--- why did you choose this stack?

i was really thinking about taking test prop or test E with dbol but someone i know said i should do deca a dbol instead because it would give me better results with fewer side effects. he has done numerous cycles and has big results that is why i am thinking of that cycle. When i get on the cycle i am going to add more calories also

Originally Posted by TronTron

i was really thinking about taking test prop or test E with dbol but someone i know said i should do deca a dbol instead because it would give me better results with fewer side effects. he has done numerous cycles and has big results that is why i am thinking of that cycle. When i get on the cycle i am going to add more calories also

OK, in all seriousness. NEVER, EVER listen to that fool again!

If he thinks you'll have less sides on dbol than test he's a complete douche!

Also, there's a lot of large douche bags out there. That doesn't make them credible.

Its been said already, but if you aren't gaining without steroids you won't gain with steroids - or keep what little you do gain afterwards.

The problem lies not with your lack of anabolics, but somewhere in your diet or training.

Originally Posted by Gazhole

Its been said already, but if you aren't gaining without steroids you won't gain with steroids - or keep what little you do gain afterwards.

The problem lies not with your lack of anabolics, but somewhere in your diet or training.

It is as simple as that. You say you will add more calories on your cycle, but we're saying you need to add them now. It's very premature for you to by doing a cycle. Years too early.

why do I get the feeling this guy is going to do as he pleases anyway! why start a thread!

where is testosterone?

Originally Posted by aasuser30

where is testosterone?

In his body! Your question should be "where is common sense"

yes i probably will do whatever i want and mostly because your advise sucks (not everyone's, some of you give very good and insightful advise that i def am taking it into consideration) and for the rest you probably suck as people that is why you are going to a help forums to be a smart ass or jackasses. So Go Fuck YourSelf. Hope you die alone.

wow..nice post. you take too much fat burn pills?

Originally Posted by TronTron

yes i actually eat alot and have a good diet its just a fast metabolism and i can only put on like 10 pounds no matter what i do that is why im turning to this....

STFU dude, No you have not been eating right...no you have not been training right....it freaking pissing me off that guys who have no clue about these things going and taking dangerous substances (that are otherwise safe)...you are ruining it for the rest of us...Seriously dude, maybe im over reacting but at your stats, YOU DO NOT NEED ROIDS....im sure you havent tried eating a whole chicken, pounds of potatoes and taking all the right Sups along...dont give that "i cant gain" bull shit.....

god damn, im so pissed off right now that i have to coment further...(probably due to my 1200 cal a day diet and a shit load oc ECA)........jesus dude, seriously, this is what ruined steroids for the rest of us who really know what the hell is going on...

not to mention there is no such thing as deca in pill form.

Originally Posted by TronTron

yes i probably will do whatever i want and mostly because your advise sucks (not everyone's, some of you give very good and insightful advise that i def am taking it into consideration) and for the rest you probably suck as people that is why you are going to a help forums to be a smart ass or jackasses. So Go Fuck YourSelf. Hope you die alone.

You are not mature enough to use steroids son!

Originally Posted by TronTron

yes i probably will do whatever i want and mostly because your advise sucks (not everyone's, some of you give very good and insightful advise that i def am taking it into consideration) and for the rest you probably suck as people that is why you are going to a help forums to be a smart ass or jackasses. So Go Fuck YourSelf. Hope you die alone.

So the people who are advising you not to take steroids are giving bad advise and the people who tell you its ok to take steroids even if you dont know how to train and eat are giving you good advice. Makes sense!

Originally Posted by TronTron

and for the rest you probably suck as people that is why you are going to a help forums to be a smart ass or jackasses. So Go Fuck YourSelf. Hope you die alone.

I'd ban your ass if you acted like this on the boards I moderate. People are giving you some solid advice here. Not cool.

/V

Originally Posted by Shadowcam

So the people who are advising you not to take steroids are giving bad advise and the people who tell you its ok to take steroids even if you dont know how to train and eat are giving you good advice. Makes sense!

nobody told him it is ok to take steroids!

Originally Posted by TronTron

yes i probably will do whatever i want and mostly because your advise sucks (not everyone's, some of you give very good and insightful advise that i def am taking it into consideration) and for the rest you probably suck as people that is why you are going to a help forums to be a smart ass or jackasses. So Go Fuck YourSelf. Hope you die alone.

ahhh....I GET IT, you asked for advice but only wanted the advice that YOU WANTED TO HEAR, you didn;t really want to hear that you are a weird piple faced 6'4 140 (yes 140 for fuck'sake) POUNDS (not kilos, but POUNDS) you'r a fucking stick. You have no clue what it means to actually work out hard to the point where you get to know you body, get to know what wokrs for you, get to know and understand what it is that your body is telling you (no, im not crazy)...You have no idea what it means to really sit down and EAT..I gave you good solid advice, but its not what you wanted to hear so I hope that you grow bitch tits, fuck up your libido and your liver, and never gain a pound, because YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE retards who walks around the city during summer shirtless and pretends to be "RIPED" when in reality you're a 140 pound weakling who doesn't have one ounce of muscle....IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO RUINED STEROIDS FOR THE PEOPLE LIKE ME, IT IS YOU WHO MADE THEM ILLEGAL AND "DANGEROUS"...You don't want to hear that you need to sit down and possible buy 2 whole chickens from costco every day along with 4 pounds of mashed potatoes, then use the right SUPPLEMENTS AND AT LEAST THREE YEARS OF TRAINING before you are mentally mature to know what it is you are doing.....you just fucking want to hear what you want to hear, so here it is: GO AHEAD AND USE THOSE PILLS, THEY WILL MAKE YOU HUGE, AND EVERY HOT BLONDE WILL WANT TO SUCK YOU DICK AND TAKE IT IN THE ASS FROM YOU...YOU WILL ALSO BE SUCH A MUSLCE BOUND BAD ASS THAT EVERYONE WILL BE SCARED OF YOU, AND NO ONE WILL KNOW THAT YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO HIDE YOUR EMOTIONAL LOW SELFESTEEM AND SELF WORTH SIDE STEMING FROM YEARS OF BEING CALLED THE "TWIGBOY"....GO AHEAD AND USE STEROIDS, YOU'LL BE FINE, NOTHING BAD WILL HAPPEN, AND DON'T EVEN WORRY ABOUT EATING, SLEEPING RIGHT, AND HEAVY LIFTING, BECAUSE SHOWING THOSE 5 POUNDS OF WATER THAT YOU WILL BE GAINING DURING YOUR CYCLE IN A CROWDED CLUB FULL OF ALCOHOL AND DRUGS IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOUR WELLBEING. fuck up

Thanks for the input (some of you) ive actually changed my mind on a couple things.

questionguy your an idiot you know nothing about me and the sweet stereotyping was very entertaining but not even close. I bet you were crying while typing your angry message.


P.S. QUESTIONGUY YOUR PROBABLY REALLY JACKED REALLY UGLY AND REALLY PIMPLY WITH A HOT CHICK THAT HAS THE LOOSEST GROSSEST DISEASED BEEF CURTAINS PUSSY BUT MOST LIKELY YOU LOVE YOURSELF SOOOO MUCH THAT YOU ACTUALLY FUCK YOURSELF IN THE ASS. IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? I BET IM 100% CORRECT!!!

No more advice needed thanks to some

Hey fuck head......lets just forget about everything and call it good, if you are willing to open your mind and learn a litle about what you are doing to your body....I dont know everything, no one here does but when puting all our research, experience and knowlege together, we can really help each other out and make progress....and yes i do love myself, and no, i do not enjoy anal stimulation.............NOW did you buy two chickens and 4 pounds of mashed potatoes from costco and are you willing to listen and report back in wiht your progress?

Post #6 and he's coming around.

Again Tron just because someone with more experience and knowledge attempts to steer you in the right direction, doesn't mean they're bashing you. We've been where you're at.

Think about it. We have nothing to gain by giving you our advise. If we wanted to hurt you we would just say go for it and be on our way. In good conscience most of us can't/won't do that.

Just trying to help. Oh, lighten up a bit. This place is a riot once you get your foot in the door.

and yes maybe my first message was a littel angry, i dont really regret it because it was right but i do admitt i am having a stress issue at the moment...Buy the chicken yet?

Advice is all good if it is given in the right manner. and i didnt start this forum NOT to listen to people but as i already said there is a right and wrong way of saying things. And i will try different things and ill post up my results. Hopefully they are good ones