Thread: Winstrol

Originally Posted by njc

Hey guys. I'll preface this by saying that I've been training and eating right for a long time and I do understand what I'm doing. However I've never done nor do I understand (well) steroids. A friend of mine came across some Winstrol (oral) and we are gonna do it together. They are 50mg tablets. We will not be taking anything else alongside it as we do not even have the option of doing so. We are going to be taking Winstrol and that is it. Just wondering if you guys could tell me anything about what to expect or how to approach this. Actually...anything you feel like telling me would be great. I am browsing these threads and reading up on it a bit already. How would you take these? How much? When?

Thanks for any input.

you may want to hold off until you can run something alongside of it.
winny is rough on the joints and can shut you down pretty good. (PCT is without a doubt a necessity here)
If you insist on running it alone (imo its not a good idea) you could probably see some results (hardness and stregth) at one tab per day (a.m. is ideal) but its not worth the risk of potential injury.
get some test to run with it... It will be worth it.

Thanks for the reply

Wouldn't it still be hard on the joints if stacking it alongside Testosterone?

the only time to consider using winni is along side Test at the end of a cutting cycle if your are getting ready to step on stage.

Originally Posted by njc

Thanks for the reply

Wouldn't it still be hard on the joints if stacking it alongside Testosterone?

My cursory understanding of this compound is that it does not aromatize. Since it'll shut you down, you'll stop producing (aromatizable) testosterone, and so your endogenous estrogen levels will plummet. While this makes you look harder, it is very hard on the joints (estrogen acts on the joint in a way that I don't understand, and so I defer to those who understand steroid pathways better than I do. )

By running test alongside, you'll create enough estrogen to prevent or at the very least minimize this problem.

I think.

Anyone? Anyone?


Bueller...?

Yes thats why one should always run a androgenic compound that aromatises to promote eastrogen which increases fluid in the body which of course protects joints. Running Winni by itself will have the opposite effect.

You will be VERY prone to injury using winny alone...and to be honest, I doubt it if you will see anything in terms of gains. Your joints are going to dry up and it's going to be difficult performing your workout. I wouldn't use it alone.

/V

Originally Posted by Shadowcam

Yes thats why one should always run a androgenic compound that aromatises to promote eastrogen which increases fluid in the body which of course protects joints. Running Winni by itself will have the opposite effect.

Originally Posted by VictorZ06

You will be VERY prone to injury using winny alone...and to be honest, I doubt it if you will see anything in terms of gains. Your joints are going to dry up and it's going to be difficult performing your workout. I wouldn't use it alone.

/V

Thanks fellas - I was pretty sure I wasn't on crack LOL!

I found this article helpful, and interesting: Deca, Winstrol and Your Joints

Turns out low levels of estrogen are inflammatory, but high levels are anti-inflammatory. Additionally, progesterone has anti-inflammatory properties.

Noteworthy is the involvement of the progesterone receptor. Since nanolone (deca) is also a non-aromatizable compound, it's interesting that deca is known to be protective of joints while winny is known to be injurious. If I'm reading the article right, nandrolone acts as a progestin. In other words, in stimulating the progesterone receptor, deca acts to reduce inflammation.
Recent research supports this assertion.

There are lies we tell to children, and holding water in the joints seems like one of 'em, but the short story appears to be this: your joints will become inflamed, and hurt, if your estrogen drops too low.