Thread: Test only cycle

age?
years training?
height weight bf%?
previous aas experience?

20 years old
4+ years of training
5'11
175lbs
7-8% bf

Originally Posted by ClosingTime

20 years old
4+ years of training
5'11
175lbs
7-8% bf

8% BF is very impressive! Unfortunately you have no business running AAS at your early age. You should be able to grow like a weed at your age.

Thanks, I see.

I guess I could wait a few more years, what would you reccomend? 23-25ish?

-Trav

In an ideal world I would say when you've nailed your diet and training and are unable to gain muscle.

Even then there are so many other factors people don't consider. If I had to do it all over again I would heavily lean to not using.

Got Milk?

Seriously, 20 is way too young.

And even then, why start with AAS. Why not try one of the many PH's first. They can produce great gains for beginners and are legal.

Even at 20, I'd still hold off on PHs. Just use some bcaas, creatine and NO for about 5 more years. Really that would be my advice to you.

Thanks, you guys are the experts so I'll take your suggestions to heart.

Cheers,
-Trav

Sorry silly question, is test boosters classified as an AAS?

Oh one more, obviously they make oral test boosters. But do they make enjectable test? I'm not considering this by any means, just trying to learn a thing or two. Thanks.

-Trav

Put an end to this thread, please. Your questions, however curious show that you dont have a clue. I'm not trying to piss you off, or show that I know more. However, test boosters at 20 years old dont make sense, especially since you havent used up whats leftover. In short easy terms, you are still growing.

Originally Posted by ClosingTime

Sorry silly question, is test boosters classified as an AAS?

Oh one more, obviously they make oral test boosters. But do they make enjectable test? I'm not considering this by any means, just trying to learn a thing or two. Thanks.

-Trav

there is a search feature to this website for questions like these. Go read a FAQ or something.

Forget wonder drugs and pills. Keep learning about training and nutrition, be consistant and if your still bodybuilding in a few years and you have gained decent muscle mass then you can start researching steroids if you still want to go down that road. Good luck!

Originally Posted by Shadowcam

Forget wonder drugs and pills. Keep learning about training and nutrition, be consistant and if your still bodybuilding in a few years and you have gained decent muscle mass then you can start researching steroids if you still want to go down that road. Good luck!

Thanks for the info, much appreciated. I guess I'll wait

Good advice, thanks.

-Trav

ClosingTime, I myself have wanted to do steroids but didn't...I wanted to do prohormones (pre-cursor of roids) for so long, but I was only 19. I decided to wait. Well, even though this is still a little young, I'm 22 and will do my first "prohormone" cycle in the next week or two. I'm glad I've waited. Really I should probably wait longer but owell lol.

Anyway, make sure you're eating a crap load of carbs and protein. If you don't have that down, you wont have much growth (if any). In a few years though, look into some prohormones. But make sure you know what you're doing. When I hit my 30s, I'll probably juice up a little.

Just eat and lift.

Originally Posted by Jonnyboy582

ClosingTime, I myself have wanted to do steroids but didn't...I wanted to do prohormones (pre-cursor of roids) for so long, but I was only 19. I decided to wait. Well, even though this is still a little young, I'm 22 and will do my first "prohormone" cycle in the next week or two. I'm glad I've waited. Really I should probably wait longer but owell lol.

Anyway, make sure you're eating a crap load of carbs and protein. If you don't have that down, you wont have much growth (if any). In a few years though, look into some prohormones. But make sure you know what you're doing. When I hit my 30s, I'll probably juice up a little.

Just eat and lift.

Well spoken, thanks.

-Trav

Originally Posted by Moondogg

And even then, why start with AAS. Why not try one of the many PH's first. They can produce great gains for beginners and are legal.

Do NOT listen to this. First, you are too young. Give it some time. Second, don't do the PHs. If/when you are ready ( years from now ), do the test cycle. Start your research now so you are ready when the time comes. There are so many things to think about.

Originally Posted by PGHRam

Do NOT listen to this. First, you are too young. Give it some time. Second, don't do the PHs. If/when you are ready ( years from now ), do the test cycle. Start your research now so you are ready when the time comes. There are so many things to think about.

The ''even then'' part of my post means I was continuing on from what everybody else said before me, i.e. years down the line when you are ready, not now.

As far as a test cycle goes, thats your opinion. Im not against steriods at all, but there are a lot of things to consider before using them, a mild PH is not a bad starting point.

Originally Posted by Moondogg

The ''even then'' part of my post means I was continuing on from what everybody else said before me, i.e. years down the line when you are ready, not now.

As far as a test cycle goes, thats your opinion. Im not against steriods at all, but there are a lot of things to consider before using them, a mild PH is not a bad starting point.

PH's are steroids! they just dont work aswell as Test!

Originally Posted by Shadowcam

PH's are steroids! they just dont work aswell as Test!

Exactly Shadowcam! Many people don't know everything they should about PHs and get their ass in a jam because they didn't do the research. I almost made that mistake.
I'm not against gear either. I'm actually all for it now that I've done 2 years of research on it. I don't know everything about it, but I know enough to stay safe and F my self up.

Absolutely agreed. I wasn't too young, but I was very premature in experience with proper diet and exercise.

Originally Posted by largepkg

In an ideal world I would say when you've nailed your diet and training and are unable to gain muscle.

Even then there are so many other factors people don't consider. If I had to do it all over again I would heavily lean to not using.

Originally Posted by Shadowcam

PH's are steroids! they just dont work aswell as Test!

Shadow im not going to get into an arugment here because I like your posts and your a knowledgeable guy. However they dont work as well because they're not as potent, which also changes the other ways they will affect your body i.e. test shutdown, gyno ect. Also other legal factors to consider, (espically in the states where they treat steriods like WMD's) whether or not you can get a reliable source ect.ect. Its not that black and white.