Thread: black history month

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

Let's not forget most pedophiles are white

By the way, if you look you'll see that immigrant blacks from African countries like Ghana,etc. ( many of them are able to come here are from elite economic classes) are not the blacks implicated in most violent crimes in this country. Of course, I don't mean the lost boys of sudan and the likes. It's intersting, most of the blacks at my daughter's exclusive private schools are either children of successful american blacks but a majority are from parents from African Nations whose parents are highly educated and successful. These kids are not going to commit crimes.

'Im pretty sure that white collar crimes are committed mostly by whites and violent, poverty crimes are committed mostly by blacks. So statistically, the rate of crimes is probably the same in both races. The former, you can argue, affects more lives in terms of sheer economic destruction. I haven't seen a black Enron CEO destroying the lives of a whole company of employees, but then, there aren't that many black CEOs. As more blacks rise to prominence we will start seeing more white collar crimes by them as well.

As for illegal drug use, I can definately assure you whites are equally as likely to abuse illegal drugs as blacks ( as my encounters with accidental overdoses in the ER and the narcotic prescription pain seekers ( the latter may be slightly predisposed to whites because they are more likely to have insurance and can see a doc)). I think blacks are disproportionately incarcerated and found guilty for some reason.

im going to need published statistics for anything you say, or I'm just not going to accept it as true. the only evidence you ever give is your own biased opinion, and that just doesn't fly when you enter these discussions

Originally Posted by DOMS

Such great reasoning. Tell that to the South Africans where the worst pandemic of rape on 3-12 girls is taking place.



This was the same stance you took in the last time we covered this topic. As a matter of fact, you were one of the people who got butt hurt when I pointed out these facts and who completely ignored the racial implications of my saying that whites are more likely to be serial killers even though I provided no proof.

"For some reason"...

Black are also incarcerated more than per capita in Atlanta because of all the white cops, white juries, and white judges. Oh, wait, they're not white, they're black, but there are still a disproportionate amounts of blacks in Atlanta's jails. Go figure...

give it to her DOMS. none of the stuff she is posting sounds legit to me

Originally Posted by bio-chem

give it to her DOMS. none of the stuff she is posting sounds legit to me

I get the impression that she's not white, which puts her in the minority category. That in turn explains her stance, and I can appreciate that. She's usually pretty good at posting sources for any point that she makes, with the exception of topics related to race. She has too much of an emotional stake in it.

The idea that there are more white pedophiles than any other race is one that she can't back up with any credible source. Especially when you're talking about the entire world.

Hell, in south-east Asia, there's a sex slave trade that is estimated to have 300,000 women and children in its system [source].

In short, don't expect too many credible sources for this topic from banaidwoman.

Wow you guys don't pass up a chance to demean people different from you do you. I sense ego issues

Originally Posted by T_man

Wow you guys don't pass up a chance to demean people different from you do you. I sense ego issues

And you'd be wrong.

DOMS you're the worst of the lot

Too much truth?

The whole truth is different from your "truths" that you just pick out to suit your claims

Have a good day babes

Babes? Tell me that's a typo.

So, what is the whole truth?

So you want data

lets start with the illegal drug use, both whites and blacks use it equally but hey, blacks really do get imprisoned more often.gee..

Black Americans Ten Times More Likely to be Incarcerated For Drug Use Than Whites

[quote]ustice Policy Institute.

Blacks and whites use illegal drugs at approximately the same rates, yet both arrest and sentencing tends to be stricter for blacks, the study found.

Researchers examined arrest and sentencing data from 198 U.S. counties with the largest populations. Nearly all counties examined showed large racial distinctions in how drug offenders were sentenced. This data was consistent with the findings of other studies, although prior studies have not broken down their analysis by county.

From the Justice Policy institute

as for pedophiles, ask any fbi profiler it is mostly whites in this country. Why is that?I I never said there was no child rape in Africa, as a feminist I am aware of the mysogyny in africa.

Case control study done by.... doctors ! reagarding white collar crime

A Case Control Study: White-Collar Defendants Compared With Defendants Charged With Other Nonviolent Theft -- Poortinga et al. 34 (1): 82 -- Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law Online

common sense guys, its called biased selection, more white people are in upper white collar jobs, so statistically more whites are committing white collar crimes in this country and south africa.

Go to Nigeria, well hell, hardly any blacks so the blacks in that country now comprise the white collar criminals, duh.

or how about this one

http://www.jaapl.org/cgi/content/full/37/4/538

......They were more likely to have been employed, to have attained a higher educational level, to be male, white, and older

Of course, as we women attain high levels of power we will comprise more and more of the white collar criminals as well. I'm not being sexist.

dont forget your talking to a god damn scientist

By the way can anyone offer up why asians commit 1/4 the crime of whites in this country? It's not like we can't look the Japanese rape programs In Nanking, or Pol Pot's Killing fields?

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

So you want data

lets start with the illegal drug use, both whites and blacks use it equally but hey, blacks really do get imprisoned more often.gee..

Black Americans Ten Times More Likely to be Incarcerated For Drug Use Than Whites

Ah, Justice Policy Institute. The so-called research group that makes it clear they have an agenda in every bit of "research" they do. They even go so far as using inflammatory language in their reports (I read the one on gangs), and I supposed to take them seriously?

Also, do you even read the crap you linked to? You're simply regurgitating them, who in turn regurgitate JPI, without linking to the study. There's nothing of substance there.

Does the so-called study talk about the entire circumstances surrounding arrest related to drugs? It's one thing to get busted buying pot from an undercover agent, and it's something else entirely when you're busted selling drugs and you're a repeat offender, a dealer, on parole, or carry a gun. Is that sort of thing covered in the study? I don't know because your article doesn't discuss it or link to it.

as for pedophiles, ask any fbi profiler it is mostly whites in this country. Why is that?I I never said there was no child rape in Africa, as a feminist I am aware of the mysogyny in africa.

Nice bit of non-fact.

You do realize that the FBI doesn't use a profiler in pedophile cases unless it's a serial killer or a serial abductor, right? So your statement makes little sense.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

Case control study done by.... doctors ! reagarding white collar crime

A Case Control Study: White-Collar Defendants Compared With Defendants Charged With Other Nonviolent Theft -- Poortinga et al. 34 (1): 82 -- Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law Online

common sense guys, its called biased selection, more white people are in upper white collar jobs, so statistically more whites are committing white collar crimes in this country and south africa.

Go to Nigeria, well hell, hardly any blacks so the blacks in that country now comprise the white collar criminals, duh.

or how about this one

White-Collar Crime: Corporate and Securities and Commodities Fraud -- Price and Norris 37 (4): 538 -- Journal of the American Academy of Psychiatry and the Law Online



Of course, as we women attain high levels of power we will comprise more and more of the white collar criminals as well. I'm not being sexist.

dont forget your talking to a god damn scientist

So, Ms. Scientist, what's the point of this babbling? I've made no mention as to the types of crimes, just the amount committed per capita and how black commit crimes on a scale about it. How does any of that relate to what you just wrote?

Also, what sort of scientist are you that's supposed to buy you credit? A psychologist? A criminologist? A sociologist? What?

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

By the way can anyone offer up why asians commit 1/4 the crime of whites in this country? It's not like we can't look the Japanese rape programs In Nanking, or Pol Pot's Killing fields?

Facts?

I just showed you data that more white collar crimes were commited mostly by whites using good epidemiological data that most doctors are used to analyzing,

You asked me for data for that so I showed you.

Oh so maybe you would like bill oreilly as data for the pedophiles in this country since any medical epidemiology data I show does not sway you

according to him
the FBI says 80% of all pedophiles are white

you seem like the bill o'reilly type



Yeah don't believe me, but you might believe your right wing counterparts

There are reams of data that illegal drug use is equally abused by whites vs blacks. You want primary data so you can analyze the data collection like I do ?

How about
of this journal also provided excellent editorial support.
1. See, e.g., MICHAEL TONRY, MALIGN NEGLECT: RACE CRIME, AND PUNISHMENT IN
AMERICA 107–109 (1995) (summarizing survey data showing that whites are more likely to have used
cocaine, marijuana, hallucinogens, and alcohol than African Americans).

You WANTED GODAMN PRIMARY DATA RATHER THAN TAKING THE WORD OF A ORGANIZATION AND I SHOWED YOU GODDAMN PRIMARY DATA THAT WHITES COMMIT MORE WHITE COLLAR CRIME THAN BLACKS. SO WHAT THE HELL DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

I just showed you data that more white collar crimes were commited by whites using good epidemiological data that most doctors are used to analyzing,

And, like I said, what's the point? What does this have to do with the amount of crime by each race?

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

Oh so maybe you would like bill oreilly as data for the pedophiles in this country since any medical epidemiology data I show does not sway you

Oh, so since I don't believe the non-facts you've posted, I must believe in some political talking head?

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

according to him
the FBI says 80% of all pedophiles are white

you seem like the bill o'reilly type

Did you even watch the video? I watched it twice to make sure that I didn't miss something. The only thing that said "according to FBI 80% of pedophiles are nonhispanic white men" was the YouTube title of the video. The video itself only has Bill O'Reilly (I'm assuming) saying that some sick perverted guy made a website telling guys how to ensnare young girls and then has a bit where the sick fuck talks for a while. No where in the video are any numbers even mentioned.

What did you do? Make a claim, were unable to back it up, go to Google and search for anything that would back you up, was sent to YouTube, and then posted that without watching it? Is that how it went down?

Another laughable link.

I'll also point out that you've done nothing to refute any fact I've posted, you've only tried, and failed, to pull a red herring.

Lol you fuckers (especially DOMS ) and your theories on why black people are bad. It's your fault for bringing them there lets not forget. Not that they are bad, it's just that there's alot of racial stereotyping. If you did psychology anywhere past A-level you will know that most of the stigma they get is from stereotyping.

Peace out homos

Originally Posted by maniclion

It usually comes in the form of the domineering mothers, whose religious beliefs make the scorn their child for every little thing, anything the child does wrong is a sin, when he grows up the mother tells him that girls are sinful.....

But it's all really anything that can drive a person away from humanism back to the instinctual animalism deep in our genes...basically emotionally castrated guys who after years of abuse had their humanity suppressed....

1. They tend to come from unstable families.
2. As children, they are typically abandoned by their fathers and raised by domineering mothers.
3. Their families often have criminal, psychiatric and alcoholic histories.
4. They were often abused — emotionally, physically and/or sexually — by a family member.

Doesn't this bit describe most black young men in the ghetto? Maybe thats why they are prone to senseless violence, there may be a relation between white serial killers and gangsta killers which would negate the whole white men be crazy cause they serial killa's

Hahahaha.... this site really does bring a tear to my eye :')

Oh wait. I'm 3/4 black. I should be out there mugging an old lady, raping a young woman or poppin some caps in some ass. I'm really letting my race down these days.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

There are reams of data that illegal drug use is equally abused by whites vs blacks. You want primary data so you can analyze the data collection like I do ?

How about
of this journal also provided excellent editorial support.
1. See, e.g., MICHAEL TONRY, MALIGN NEGLECT: RACE CRIME, AND PUNISHMENT IN
AMERICA 107–109 (1995) (summarizing survey data showing that whites are more likely to have used
cocaine, marijuana, hallucinogens, and alcohol than African Americans).

You WANTED GODAMN PRIMARY DATA RATHER THAN TAKING THE WORD OF A ORGANIZATION AND I SHOWED YOU GODDAMN PRIMARY DATA THAT WHITES COMMIT MORE WHITE COLLAR CRIME THAN BLACKS. SO WHAT THE HELL DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER

I'm not asking, though I don't mind, primary data. I'm looking for a credible summary of the data. But if you want to post primary data, do so, but you'll either need to post the study or link to it. Just posting the citation isn't enough. Because I can do that to:

How about
of this journal also provided excellent editorial support.
1. See, e.g., SOME GUY, RUNNING WITH SCISSORS GOOD FOR YOU
AMERICA 164–211 (1999) (summarizing survey data showing that running with scissors created new and interesting fashions).

So, by throwing up the red herring of convictions, drug use, and race; are you trying to allude that blacks are just picked on? Because Atlanta clearly refutes that idea.

Originally Posted by DOMS

And, like I said, what's the point? What does this have to do with the amount of crime by each race?

My original post said if you group white collar and violent impoverished crime both races probably commit crimes at an equal rate. I'm sorry but a ghetto black is less likely to have the resources to commit health insurance fraud than a upper middle class white That is all I am saying. Crime is a opportunistic , if the closest thing to getting cash is to hold up a lliquore store with a gun vs. using 5000 dollar computer software engineering to inflitrate a bank come on....

Oh, so since I don't believe the non-facts you've posted, I must believe in some political talking head?

I gave you epidemiologica data facts why dont you go to the bureau of judicial statistic and look up pedophile statitics


as for pedophiles in this country being mostly whites, any idiot can look up fbi fact sheets so that even a right wing idiot like bill o'reilly can figure that out , I figured he would have tried to pin it on the blacks.

Do you hate blacks so much you can't stomach the fact that whites are culpable for a majority of the most hated and vile crime of pedohilia?

Originally Posted by T_man

Lol you fuckers (especially DOMS ) and your theories on why black people are bad. It's your fault for bringing them there lets not forget. Not that they are bad, it's just that there's alot of racial stereotyping. If you did psychology anywhere past A-level you will know that most of the stigma they get is from stereotyping.

Peace out homos

A hearty fuck you, too.

Of course I know that whites brought them here, after buying them from other blacks.

So, blacks are just poor victims? Is that the tact you're trying to take?

Originally Posted by T_man

Oh wait. I'm 3/4 black. I should be out there mugging an old lady, raping a young woman or poppin some caps in some ass. I'm really letting my race down these days.

I figured as much. What's really funny is that if I showed your picture to an American with the similar mindset as bandaidwomen, they'd call you an African-American.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I'm not asking, though I don't mind, primary data. I'm looking for a credible summary of the data. But if you want to post primary data, do so, but you'll either need to post the study or link to it. Just posting the citation isn't enough. Because I can do that to:

How about
of this journal also provided excellent editorial support.
1. See, e.g., SOME GUY, RUNNING WITH SCISSORS GOOD FOR YOU
AMERICA 164–211 (1999) (summarizing survey data showing that running with scissors created new and interesting fashions).

So, by throwing up the red herring of convictions, drug use, and race; are you trying to allude that blacks are just picked on? Because Atlanta clearly refutes that idea.

The primary data i showed you was nation wide, how blacks despite using illegal drugs to the same degree as whites, are incarcerated more. Where the hell did I talk about atlanta, I'm talking about the whole godamn country !

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

My original post said if you group white collar and violent impoverished crime both races probably commit crimes at an equal rate. I'm sorry but a ghetto black is less likely to have the resources to commit health insurance fraud than a upper middle class white That is all I am saying. Crime is a opportunistic , if the closest thing to getting cash is to hold up a lliquore store with a gun vs. using 5000 dollar computer software engineering to inflitrate a bank come on....

Which has, as I've said twice before, nothing whatsoever to do with the per capita crime rate by race. None. Nada. Zilch. Zero. Get it?

I'm talking about the absolute amount of crime committed by people of a certain race compared to the percentage of the population. I make no distinction between violent and non-violent crime, or blue and white collar crime. You're "point" has no bearing on this.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

I gave you epidemiologica data facts why dont you go to the bureau of judicial statistic and look up pedophile statitics

So you've made claim relating to medicine and crime. So what? You've linked to absolutely nothing of substance so far.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

as for pedophiles in this country being mostly whites, any idiot can look up fbi fact sheets so that even a right wing idiot like bill o'reilly can figure that out , I figured he would have tried to pin it on the blacks.

If you're talking about absolute numbers, then yes, I'd say your opinion (because you've provided no facts thus far) is correct, due to the simple fact that white make about about 80% of the population. But if you're talking about per captia numbers, you're going to need to provide a source.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

The primary data i showed you was nation wide, how blacks despite using illegal drugs to the same degree as whites, are incarcerated more. Where the hell did I talk about atlanta, I'm talking about the whole godamn country !

You didn't provide any facts. All you did was link to a article that quoted, very short on details, a report that they didn't link to. You also ignored my simple question of what additional, if any, other offenses were connected with the charge of drug use. I had to ask you because your link didn't discuss any of that.

Listen, if you can show me that the facts as I've seen them are incorrect, I'll immediately change my stance and even apologize for upsetting you.

you wanted facts on us asians, we commit less crime with the exception of gambling and here is a whole boat load of statistics from the federal beaureau of statistics

so explain, why asians commit the least amount of crime in this country? We are just as ruthless and vicious in our home countries


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