Thread: black history month

More facts, when I said whites were more likely to abuse prescription drugs than blacks ( by sheer viritue of having greater access to doctors like rush limbaugh)

from the department of humnan resources

Ch 2: Misuse of Presc. Rx: Data from 2k2, 2k3, & 2k4 NSDUH, SAMHSA, Office of Applied Studies
and please "non hispanic whites " are not whites? That's because there are a lot of latinos that look very white ( chileans, brazillians, uppper class mexicans descended from the spanish conquistators etc, they consider themselves white and proudly latino )so it essentially left with american, canadian whites.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

never mind the fact that any shit they have to deal with in the ghetto is way better than sub-Saharan Africa right now, or has ever been.

You really don't have a clue. That's one of the most uneducated statements I've ever heard. You have no experience in either, how can you make a comparisson?

But it's okay DOMS, just come out and say you're racist. I cant afford a gun to shoot you, because I'm black duh, when you do admit it. I won't bite

Btw for those of you wondering, yes this computer is stolen and I'm tapping the next door neighbour's internet because I'm a typical dishonest black guy and all the money I steal goes towards drugs and bitches mayne. Hey wait. I steal the drugs and rape the hoes I don't need to pay for shit.

Well it's nighttime here. Gotta do what a black man gotta do.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

you wanted facts on us asians, we commit less crime with the exception of gambling and here is a whole boat load of statistics from the federal beaureau of statistics

so explain, why asians commit the least amount of crime in this country? We are just as ruthless and vicious in our home countries


http://www.arthurhu.com/index/acrime...3E%3Ca%20href=

That data is badly formatted, which makes it unclear. Also, the two links it has, which I assume are suppose to provide credibility, link back to home pages, but not supporting data.

It appears that the summary table weights the data on whites. Which is why, for the most part, "white" has a value of 1. If "W" is white, then does that mean that "B" is for black, "H" is Hispanic, and "A" for Asian? If so, then the summary does not support the claim made the creator of the page, because, with only one exception, "A" has a higher value than "W".

A section of the table is titled "Asians better than average", but shows Asians having a value greater than 1. The assumption then is that values of greater than 1 is somehow a good thing. The problem with that is that blacks also have values greater than 1. So it the table also trying to say that black commit less crimes than whites?

Also, in the category of "Klan Watch US Hate CrS.", Asians and Hispanics have a value of zero and no value, respectively. The strange thing is that blacks have a value of 6.3! It's not a category of victimization, so how is it that blacks are 6.3 times more likely to be members of the Klan (white have a value of 1? Affirmative Action gone too far?

That data is highly suspect and don't seem to backup the initial claim. I also can't help but notice the site is AurthrWu.com.

Do you have another link?

On a side note: I think that Mr. Wu's needs to learn about CSS.

Oddly, though I have no data to back it up, I've held the suspicion that Asians (of the non-Indiam type) commit crime only of a per capita amount or less. So yes, I'd really like to see a better link please.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

never mind the fact that any shit they have to deal with in the ghetto is way better than sub-Saharan Africa right now, or has ever been.

You realize they used this argument during segregation and south africa? ... Hey, why do you ungrateful black folks care about segregation or arpatheid, we whites rescued you from yourselves goddamn it!

Originally Posted by T_man

You really don't have a clue. That's one of the most uneducated statements I've ever heard. You have no experience in either, how can you make a comparisson?

But it's okay DOMS, just come out and say you're racist. I cant afford a gun to shoot you, because I'm black duh, when you do admit it. I won't bite

Btw for those of you wondering, yes this computer is stolen and I'm tapping the next door neighbour's internet because I'm a typical dishonest black guy and all the money I steal goes towards drugs and bitches mayne. Hey wait. I steal the drugs and rape the hoes I don't need to pay for shit.

Well it's nighttime here. Gotta do what a black man gotta do.

I'm not DOMS dumb ass. and you have no idea how much time i've spent either in the ghetto, or in Africa. You are right though, i've never been to Africa. but i don't think i need to be there to know how high the rate of Aids is, or to believe the stories coming out of Darfur. Then again my friend from Namibia has spoken about some of the stuff he grew up seeing.

If you want to argue with my statement that blacks in the US have it better than blacks in Africa go right ahead. It will only further prove you're an idiot not worth listening to though.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

Do your realize you support what i am saying,

Since the majority of the folks in this country are white, a majority are going to commit pedophilia,

since a majority of the blacks are more impoverished and live violent neighborhoods a majority of blacks are going to commit more violent crimes,

a majority of white collar crimes are by whites because whites are less impoverished and have access to the sophisticated costly tools needed to commit white collar crimes

I kind of get you...the problem is that you're throwing in "violent." You're saying that blacks commit more crime because they're poor. So what we'd really need it a study of crime committed by race at or below the poverty level.

That sound reasonable. Do you have access to that sort of data?

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

You realize they used this argument during segregation and south africa? ... Hey, why do you ungrateful black folks care about segregation or arpatheid, we whites rescued you from yourselves goddamn it!

im not arguing for segregation or apartheid, so you can shove it trying to compare me to that

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

You realize they used this argument during segregation and south africa? ... Hey, why do you ungrateful black folks care about segregation or arpatheid, we whites rescued you from yourselves goddamn it!

This is a whole other topic, but have you seen what's happened to Africa since the Europeans left?

If you're going to try to bolster the opinion of blacks, you really shouldn't delve into Africa.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

no what I showed you was epidemiological data, vastly superior and not just used by those of us in medicine! Sociologists, anthropologists, economists use for gods sake, but I think research doctors are most adept at reading it.


regarding pedophilia

If


Do your realize you support what i am saying,

Since the majority of the folks in this country are white, a majority are going to commit pedophilia,

since a majority of the blacks are more impoverished and live violent neighborhoods a majority of blacks are going to commit more violent crimes,

a majority of white collar crimes are by whites because whites are less impoverished and have access to the sophisticated costly tools needed to commit white collar crimes

Whose fault is it that more of them have not lifted themselves out of that poverty like my Italian family? You know when my and my wife's grand- and great grand parents came over here from Italy they put them right back on a boat to fight in WWI and WWII. They came right back and worked like dogs in poverty while making a better life for their children. Now 3 and 4 generations later our families are loaded with successful members some of which are doctors, engineers and teachers. WE have even 2 Rhodes Scholars. When our families got here we were treated like dirty fascists. They worked their asses off like the Mexicans do today. Nobody gave them a hand out. They busted their balls until they were successful then busted their balls some more. No one has to remain in poverty. You work your ass off even when someone calls you a damn dirty dago or a slant eyed pan face or a dirty ape.

That aside, I have no problem with Black History Month. The idea is uplifting and tells our black brothers that they can succeed in the face of tremendous obstacles. I know many successful Black Americans. Anyone can succeed. It's a mater of finding one's abilities and talents and the rest is working your ass off.

Originally Posted by T_man

But it's okay DOMS, just come out and say you're racist. I cant afford a gun to shoot you, because I'm black duh, when you do admit it. I won't bite

You live in the UK, it's knives for you.

I've never hid my racist beliefs. I've also never hid that they're based in facts, not ideologies.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

im not arguing for segregation or apartheid, so you can shove it trying to compare me to that

Africa Fact: 8% of the Niger population are black slaves owned by other blacks.

Originally Posted by DOMS

Africa Fact: 8% of the Niger population are black slaves owned by other blacks.

You know damn well facts don't belong in this discussion

half truths and fallacies are all that will be accepted in here. this is your one warning. next time

GeoLytics - US Census demographic and GIS data products

good site for demographics of all the stuff we tallked about, had to subscribe to it

Originally Posted by bio-chem

You know damn well facts don't belong in this discussion

half truths and fallacies are all that will be accepted in here. this is your one warning. next time

I always rise to the challenge.

Africa is the number one place for slavery. In addition to Niger, a lot of pygmies in the Congo are owned by the Bantu. Families of the pygmies are owned by Bantu families. Forever.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I always rise to the challenge.

Africa is the number one place for slavery. In addition to Niger, a lot of pygmies in the Congo are owned by the Bantu. Families of the pygmies are owned by Bantu families. Forever.

and slavery is thriving nicely in america too except we give it the P R name
"Human trafficking" ooh,must be so much better than slavery!

yeah, both whites and blacks engage in slavery, should we tell eastern women discriminated in african countries that their plight is better than their plight in america where this crime is an epidemic against them?

Originally Posted by Glycomann

Whose fault is it that more of them have not lifted themselves out of that poverty like my Italian family?

Here is the differance:

when my black male partner ( AOA from medical school ( means top 6 graduating) PHd in chemical engineering walks into my patient's room to check up on her, she thinks he is a janitor who has no business listining to her lungs and heart despite his white coat.( i can't tell you how many times this has happened). An Italian doctor is not going to be called a janitor by this white woman from Georgia. When he and I walk from the hospital together to the parking deck , the rotatating contractual security gaurds will stop him and ask him for his identification. Funny, my german and jewish partners don't seem to get that. What do you think happens in lower levels of business establishments?

That aside, I have no problem with Black History Month. The idea is uplifting and tells our black brothers that they can succeed in the face of tremendous obstacles. I know many successful Black Americans. Anyone can succeed. It's a mater of finding one's abilities and talents and the rest is working your ass off.

we can definately agree on that!

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

and slavery is thriving nicely in america too except we give it the P R name
"Human trafficking" ooh,must be so much better than slavery

Really? You're really going to try to insinuate that large scale slavery goes on in the US? And that it's some how comparable to what's going on in Africa?

Are you that deluded?

Originally Posted by DOMS

Really? You're really going to try to insinuate that large scale slavery goes on in the US? And that it's some how comparable to what's going on in Africa?

Are you that deluded?

I am not deluded , quite the contrary, well informed....

OpEdNews - Article: Modern Slavery in America

I don't think you realize the epidemic or scale of human trafficking in this country, your western media just gives it the pretty name "trafficking"..

and logically, what has that got to do with blacks being impoverished in the greatest country on earth, we are above the african nations?. By the way, quiet a few of them have outlawed slavery, like america, if it exists they have the guts to call it what it is slavery, not human trafficking.....

Welcome to the United States / ISN

I still get newspapers from my home country Taiwan, they make fun of americans for pointing fingers at "evil doers" and claim to end slavery when human trafficking is an epidemic here. ( they did a story due to the asian women being highly covetted in this market) Their version of 20/20 did a fantastic show on it ( all in chinese) and the interesting thing pointed out was that human traffickers thrive in countries that are completely ignorant and turns a blind eye to this ....sound familliar?

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

Here is the differance:

when my black male partner ( AOA from medical school ( means top 6 graduating) PHd in chemical engineering walks into my patient's room to check up on her, she thinks he is a janitor who has no business listining to her lungs and heart despite his white coat.( i can't tell you how many times this has happened). An Italian doctor is not going to be called a janitor by this white woman from Georgia. When he and I walk from the hospital together to the parking deck , the rotatating contractual security gaurds will stop him and ask him for his identification. Funny, my german and jewish partners don't seem to get that. What do you think happens in lower levels of business establishments?



we can definately agree on that!

Congratulations to both of you for rising to the top. I'm sure your partner can speak up and instantly let it be known that he is not a janitor. As more Black Americans rise from their own dire situations such incidences will happen less and less. Just remember my grandparents were shit on pretty bad. Your comparison was made to show me that your current pain is more than what was their pain. I don't have sympathy for those who diminish others accomplishments but I can certainly understand your frustration given the tone of this thread. This shouldn't be a competition for those who suffer more. It should be a competition for who succeeds in life. It is an unfortunate aspect of the human situation that all peoples are tribal. We naturally pit against one another based on perceived differences. The longer we live and work together the more those tribal traits fall away as we essentially become one tribe.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

I don't think you realize the epidemic or scale of human trafficking in this country, your western media just gives it the pretty name "trafficking"..

Bullshit. My information about slavery comes from a body at the UN. And the UN loves to hate on the US, but even they can't come up with any appreciable sort of slavery. I'm researching it for a reason that has nothing to with this thread.

The only thing that comes close to slavery on any but the most minuscule scale in the USA is indentured servitude. Mostly Mexicans that pay to get into the USA and then get paid subsistence to work on farms. But even that number is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent. Or are you going to try to getting paid less that minimum wage as slavery?

The slavery that I pointed out is outright owning of another person, and it happens no where as much as it does in Africa, seconded by China.

You're some sort of minority and you try so hard to create equality in all things by deluding yourself. The western world sits at the top of the world in terms of just about everything. Or, to paraphase Tony Blair, how many people are trying to get into, or out of, China? Zimbabwe?

Originally Posted by Glycomann

Congratulations to both of you for rising to the top. I'm sure your partner can speak up and instantly let it be known that he is not a janitor. As more Black Americans rise from their own dire situations such incidences will happen less and less. Just remember my grandparents were shit on pretty bad. Your comparison was made to show me that your current pain is more than what was their pain. I don't have sympathy for those who diminish others accomplishments but I can certainly understand your frustration given the tone of this thread. This shouldn't be a competition for those who suffer more. It should be a competition for who succeeds in life. It is an unfortunate aspect of the human situation that all peoples are tribal. We naturally pit against one another based on perceived differences. The longer we live and work together the more those tribal traits fall away as we essentially become one tribe.

I was not diminishing your grandparent's pain but honestly, an italian with a perfect american accent isn't going to get the shit an immigrant italian with a thick accent will get. A black with a perfect american accent ... most southern whites still can't look past the skin color, that is all.


as for DOMS
All I am showing is that blacks and whites are culpable of base acts, slavery by both, except western propaganda mitigates culpable acts , equivalent to the religious propaganda that the serbian christian slaughter of muslim bosnians was only "ethnic cleansing" For gods sake people:

Human trafficking = slavery and both african and white nations are culpable

Ethnic cleansing carried out by one religious group to systematically wipe out another =religious warfare!

Do you guys have no idea how much propaganda is in this country!

Originally Posted by DOMS

Bullshit. My information about slavery comes from a body at the UN. And the UN loves to hate on the US, but even they can't come up with any appreciable sort of slavery. I'm researching it for a reason that has nothing to with this thread.

The only thing that comes close to slavery on any but the most minuscule scale in the USA is indentured servitude. Mostly Mexicans that pay to get into the USA and then get paid subsistence to work on farms. But even that number is a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent. Or are you going to try to getting paid less that minimum wage as slavery?

The slavery that I pointed out is outright owning of another person, and it happens no where as much as it does in Africa, seconded by China.

You're some sort of minority and you try so hard to create equality in all things by deluding yourself. The western world sits at the top of the world in terms of just about everything. Or, to paraphase Tony Blair, how many people are trying to get into, or out of, China? Zimbabwe?

We can both agree that america is the greatest nation on earth with china the greatest longest living empire on earth ( I am a dual citizen afterall and travel freely between the two)

But remember, africans owned slaves, europeans owned slaves, africans had a civilization that rivalled ancient mexicans , both conquored and colonized by europeans, both went down hill, much of the mess we see are the aftermath of coloniazation. America is one of the few countries that did not see a long colonial period. Look at India, their rise to world power is finally fulfilling the natural innate talents of its citizens once they were no longer the second class citizens of the english.


Look at Iraq, if Winston Churchill had not ignored an american missionary who advised against drawing an artificiall border around the KUrds, shiites and sunnis ( who each had their own territory under the Ottamans) we wouldn't be seeing the slug fest in that country amongs the three warring tribes...

and watch what you say about china, our children will probably one day be mostly working for chinese businesses here or abroad. They are buying up Atlanta like there is no tomorrow..

by the way, you do reallized the human trafficking in this isn't just mexicans, it's prostituteion of east european and asian women and get this.... child labor!!!!

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

I am not deluded , quite the contrary, well informed....

OpEdNews - Article: Modern Slavery in America

I don't think you realize the epidemic or scale of human trafficking in this country, your western media just gives it the pretty name "trafficking"..

I've already read that. It was originally published by someone at US Berkley. It's sensationalist garbage. You notice that they never provide numbers for the amount of "slaves" in the US, and only do so for the global scale? That's because the number aren't high enough to be scary. So they make those accusations and the jump immediately to the global scale so muddy the issue. Then they jump back down to country level and talk never give numbers, only percentages based on some mythological number of total slaves in the US that they never provide.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

I still get newspapers from my home country Taiwan, they make fun of americans for pointing fingers at "evil doers" and claim to end slavery when human trafficking is an epidemic here?

They say it because it makes them feel better about themselves. The big bad Americans are evil! So see, we're better than them!" I've read article after article, from sources in and out of the USA, and those that claim that slavery is running rampant here never, ever, give a number. They don't because it's an almost non-existent number.

When any form of slavery is discovered here, no matter how few people are involved, law enforcement and activist groups are all over it.

So the claim that slavery is bad is the US is just something people with low self esteem say to make themselves feel better. The US has its problems, but slavery isn't one of them.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

We can both agree that america is the greatest nation on earth with china the greatest longest living empire on earth ( I am a dual citizen afterall and travel freely between the two)

I want to point out that I really, really like the Chinese and their culture. If I wasn't Christian, I'd be Buddhist. Hell, I practice mindfulness meditation every day. I can even say "I love you" in Mandarin.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

But remember, africans owned slaves, europeans owned slaves, africans had a civilization that rivalled ancient mexicans , both conquored and colonized by europeans, both went down hill, much of the mess we see are the aftermath of coloniazation. America is one of the few countries that did not see a long colonial period. Look at India, their rise to world power is finally fulfilling the natural innate talents of its citizens once they were no longer the second class citizens of the english.

The saddest story in Africa is Zimbabwe. After the Europeans left, almost every country in Africa went nuts and violent. But not Zimbabwe. They picked up where the European left off and even made advancements. Then they made one single mistake. They elected Robert Mugabe. In 20 years he's destroyed the country. Just look at the adults over the age of 30. They live in some of the worst poverty in Africa, but have white, straight teeth. I mean perfect teeth. It means that they grew up in a very prosperous, dignified, society and had it all taken away.

Robert Mugabe needs to die. Now.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

I was not diminishing your grandparent's pain but honestly, an italian with a perfect american accent isn't going to get the shit an immigrant italian with a thick accent will get. A black with a perfect american accent ... most southern whites still can't look past the skin color, that is all.


as for DOMS
All I am showing is that blacks and whites are culpable of base acts, slavery by both, except western propaganda mitigates culpable acts , equivalent to the religious propaganda that the serbian christian slaughter of muslim bosnians was only "ethnic cleansing" For gods sake people:

Human trafficking = slavery and both african and white nations are culpable

Ethnic cleansing carried out by one religious group to systematically wipe out another =religious warfare!

Do you guys have no idea how much propaganda is in this country!

Again you diminish. I don't think you are capable of understanding my point as you are locked into your bitterness. You've lost an ally. I'm done in this thread.

Originally Posted by DOMS

I want to point out that I really, really like the Chinese and their culture. If I wasn't Christian, I'd be Buddhist. Hell, I practice mindfulness meditation every day. I can even say "I love you" in Mandarin.



The saddest story in Africa is Zimbabwe. After the Europeans left, almost every country in Africa went nuts and violent. But not Zimbabwe. They picked up where the European left off and even made advancements. Then they made one single mistake. They elected Robert Mugabe. In 20 years he's destroyed the country. Just look at the adults over the age of 30. They live in some of the worst poverty in Africa, but have white, straight teeth. I mean perfect teeth. It means that they grew up in a very prosperous, dignified, society and had it all taken away.

Robert Mugabe needs to die. Now.

i would kill robert mugabe if i could, we both are on the same boat. Now I am not going to say it is fact,and won't claim to be but if I recall, when the europeans left, africa, unllike america, they had deprived the africans of basic tools to self govern, deprived them of schoolling and basic literacy, maybe I am wrong so you can correct me. I think that was what made the english coloniailization of india more humane, I think they left that infrastructure more intact and already accessible by the Indians, and it was a peaceful transition led by Ghandi, whereas I think violence characterized the end of european colonialism in africa, I may be wrong but it is a vague memory from internationl history.

Originally Posted by bandaidwoman

and slavery is thriving nicely in america too except we give it the P R name
"Human trafficking" ooh,must be so much better than slavery!

yeah, both whites and blacks engage in slavery, should we tell eastern women discriminated in african countries that their plight is better than their plight in america where this crime is an epidemic against them?

you're comparing something that is illegal here in the states (human trafficking), something the government is actively against compared to the atrocities being perpetrated by the governments in Africa? you my dear have lost it.

Originally Posted by Glycomann

Again you diminish. I don't think you are capable of understanding my point as you are locked into your bitterness. You've lost an ally. I'm done in this thread.

I'm sorry you felt that way, perhaps I could not convey it appropriatly since I still struggle with engllish, I am not bitter, I am actually having fun. And belive me I do not mean to diminsh any immigrant's experience here as I am one myself.