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    Muslims have no place in the Western world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Muslims have no place in the Western world.
    I couldn't agree with you more. I would've crushed that towel head's wind pipe if he would've reached in my car like that. Problem is, everyone defends muslims. They don't want to offend them. Obama is their biggest supporter.

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    Muslims, the violent Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Guy View Post
    Muslims, the violent Jews.
    Lol...if u deprive an human of alcohol and bacon they will blow shit up.

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    If they build that mosque at ground zero, I hope they build a pork processing plant right next door. They should've urinated on Bin Laden's body and wrapped his scum carcass in Bacon before dumping him for his nap with with the fishes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Muslims have no place in the Western world.
    I used to know some muslim guys in college. They were good guys. They'd give you the shirt off their back, and wouldn't let you leave their home without eating something. Not every Muslim is a jihadi looking to lop your head off.

    Islam isn't a monolithic block... they have good people and evil people, just like every other religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4A3 View Post
    I used to know some muslim guys in college. They were good guys. They'd give you the shirt off their back, and wouldn't let you leave their home without eating something. Not every Muslim is a jihadi looking to lop your head off.

    Islam isn't a monolithic block... they have good people and evil people, just like every other religion.
    TRUTH!! I've had great friends who are Iranian and Muslim. Generalizations are the most ignorant things a person can make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colochine View Post
    Lol...if u deprive an human of alcohol and bacon they will blow shit up.
    No doubt...



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    Quote Originally Posted by M4A3 View Post
    I used to know some muslim guys in college. They were good guys. They'd give you the shirt off their back, and wouldn't let you leave their home without eating something. Not every Muslim is a jihadi looking to lop your head off.

    Islam isn't a monolithic block... they have good people and evil people, just like every other religion.
    True. However, there are entire nations of Muslims that'll kill a man for being gay and dress women like ninjas.

    They're all not fanatical nuts, but it's a safe bet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    True. However, there are entire nations of Muslims that'll kill a man for being gay and dress women like ninjas.

    They're all not fanatical nuts, but it's a safe bet.

    The protests in Iran, and Arab nations throughout the middle east against their governments and the various nuts in charge give me hope. Young people across the Muslim world want change. And that is a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M4A3 View Post
    The protests in Iran, and Arab nations throughout the middle east against their governments and the various nuts in charge give me hope. Young people across the Muslim world want change. And that is a good thing.
    I'll give you that. For the first time ever, things are looking up in the Middle East.

    But I'm not going to hold my breath. As soon as one faction gets an upper hand on another, the shit is likely to start all over again.


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    I don't agree with that. I think deep down inside, Muslims have a hatred for people that are NOT of the Muslim faith. It burns me up when people day its a 'small minority' that are extremists. It's millions, entire countries. Even the Muslim advocacy groups here in the U.S. have been caught up in controversy. If you read the Koran, it says in Surrah 9:5 that people who are not of the Islamic faith are considered infidels. The Surrah 9:7 calls for the killing of individuals who stand in the way of Allah. Do I believe that they're ALL violent? No. But, I DO believe that deep down, they have a hatred towards Americans, Jews and the western way of life. Everywhere they go, abroad, domestically, etc. they're attempting to implement Sharia law. If they're a true Muslim, and they follow the Koran, they're evil end brainwashed. They can't deny what their book says. From Mohammed's history of being s child molester, their call for the extreme oppression of woman, and to the execution of non-muslims is a fact they can't deny. They can twist it, distort it, but they can't deny it.

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    I don't see how you can say 'things are looking up' in the Muslim world? Iran? Saudi Arabia is about to elect the Muslim brotherhood (extremists) to run their government. Libya will be implementing a sharia law based government, Egypt, sharia law based government. Palestine, controlled by hamas and hezbollah. It's a recipe for disaster in the middle east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secdrl View Post
    I don't see how you can say 'things are looking up' in the Muslim world? Iran? Saudi Arabia is about to elect the Muslim brotherhood (extremists) to run their government. Libya will be implementing a sharia law based government, Egypt, sharia law based government. Palestine, controlled by hamas and hezbollah. It's a recipe for disaster in the middle east.
    Probably. But for the first time ever, it at least looks promising. But, like I said, probably not.

    There is, after all, a reason that Muslims commit the lions share of terrorist acts.


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    This. ^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by secdrl View Post
    I don't agree with that. I think deep down inside, Muslims have a hatred for people that are NOT of the Muslim faith. It burns me up when people day its a 'small minority' that are extremists. It's millions, entire countries. Even the Muslim advocacy groups here in the U.S. have been caught up in controversy. If you read the Koran, it says in Surrah 9:5 that people who are not of the Islamic faith are considered infidels. The Surrah 9:7 calls for the killing of individuals who stand in the way of Allah. Do I believe that they're ALL violent? No. But, I DO believe that deep down, they have a hatred towards Americans, Jews and the western way of life. Everywhere they go, abroad, domestically, etc. they're attempting to implement Sharia law. If they're a true Muslim, and they follow the Koran, they're evil end brainwashed. They can't deny what their book says. From Mohammed's history of being s child molester, their call for the extreme oppression of woman, and to the execution of non-muslims is a fact they can't deny. They can twist it, distort it, but they can't deny it.
    I do agree that Islam is a poison on society, but you should read the bible, there is plenty of murder, rape and incest there and it's sanctioned by the Christian god. The difference is that Christians don't really read the bible like Muslims read the Koran. All of the major religions need to go away.
    Here is an example:
    Leviticus 20:21
    "if a man lies w a man as he does w a woman, they shall be put to death, their blood shall be spilled."
    Christians cherry pick the nice scriptures and ignore these. Leviticus and deutoronomy are full of horrendous things. It even gives you guidelines for selling your daughter to slavery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Probably. But for the first time ever, it at least looks promising. But, like I said, probably not.

    There is, after all, a reason that Muslims commit the lions share of terrorist acts.
    Again, I think that Islam is the biggest problem in the world currently, but it wasn't that long ago when Christians were slaughtering people by the thousands either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    Again, I think that Islam is the biggest problem in the world currently, but it wasn't that long ago when Christians were slaughtering people by the thousands either.
    4 or 5 hundred years ago.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    4 or 5 hundred years ago.
    Actually Christians and Mormons were slaughtering each other not long ago. Ever heard of the mountain meadow massacre? Jim jones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    I do agree that Islam is a poison on society, but you should read the bible, there is plenty of murder, rape and incest there and it's sanctioned by the Christian god. The difference is that Christians don't really read the bible like Muslims read the Koran. All of the major religions need to go away.
    Here is an example:
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    "if a man lies w a man as he does w a woman, they shall be put to death, their blood shall be spilled."
    Christians cherry pick the nice scriptures and ignore these. Leviticus and deutoronomy are full of horrendous things. It even gives you guidelines for selling your daughter to slavery.
    Well, to keep this on topic and away from a religous debate..there was a difference between the Old Testament and the new testament. During Old Testament times, this was customary. This was common place during that time frame. Obviously, with the changing times, that is no longer accepted. If I can recall correctly, there's nothing in the New Testament that calls for death, slaughter, etc.

    On the other hand, the muslim faith currently calls for mass murder, execution, oppression, etc. Certain individuals will say that there are 'peaceful muslims' in the world, but I say 'where?' How come these 'peaceful muslims' don't speak up and DENOUNCE the actions of what muslims are saying are 'Allah's will.' They don't. CAIR is the biggest domestic terrorist organization in the United States.

    But, most definitely, I agree that the Islamic religion is a poison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secdrl View Post
    Well, to keep this on topic and away from a religous debate..there was a difference between the Old Testament and the new testament. During Old Testament times, this was customary. This was common place during that time frame. Obviously, with the changing times, that is no longer accepted. If I can recall correctly, there's nothing in the New Testament that calls for death, slaughter, etc.

    On the other hand, the muslim faith currently calls for mass murder, execution, oppression, etc. Certain individuals will say that there are 'peaceful muslims' in the world, but I say 'where?' How come these 'peaceful muslims' don't speak up and DENOUNCE the actions of what muslims are saying are 'Allah's will.' They don't. CAIR is the biggest domestic terrorist organization in the United States.

    But, most definitely, I agree that the Islamic religion is a poison.
    That is the typical cop out answer for Christians. It's never ok to murder people for the reasons in the old testament, or to sell your kids to slavery. I'm sure if there was a god, he would not be ok w this shit, no matter the time period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    That is the typical cop out answer for Christians. It's never ok to murder people for the reasons in the old testament, or to sell your kids to slavery. I'm sure if there was a god, he would not be ok w this shit, no matter the time period.
    Nothing to do with a 'cop out.' I was just stating an opinion. There wasn't excuses of any kind in my previous post. I was saying that during that time, it was customary. It was the law of the land. It's the way things were dealt with. Obviously, as years passed, and society became more progressive, people took different views on these things. My point is, you don't see Christians nowadays calling for the people that are not of the Christian faith to be executed. Christian woman aren't forced to cover up, subjected to lashings, forbidden to drive, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exphysiologist88 View Post
    Actually Christians and Mormons were slaughtering each other not long ago. Ever heard of the mountain meadow massacre? Jim jones?
    I don't think that word means what you think it means.

    140 is a drop in the bucket compare to the Crusades or what Muslims do now.

    Also, the mountain meadow massacre was Mormons and Indian vs settlers. There were mitigating circumstances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    I don't think that word means what you think it means.

    140 is a drop in the bucket compare to the Crusades or what Muslims do now.

    Also, the mountain meadow massacre was Mormons and Indian vs settlers. There were mitigating circumstances.


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    I apostated from Islam and now there's people out there that want to kill me... That's a fucking problem. I can't even go some places now for fear of my safety. I was told some of them showed up at my house while I was away. That's the only reason that many people stay in it, because they fear for their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    I don't think that word means what you think it means.

    140 is a drop in the bucket compare to the Crusades or what Muslims do now.

    Also, the mountain meadow massacre was Mormons and Indian vs settlers. There were mitigating circumstances.
    I didn't give it that name, and Mormons are considered Christians, they believe Christ is the son of god.
    However, I do agree that there is a great difference in killings by Christians vs Muslims, I just don't think that the problem is Islam alone, but religion and dogmatic societies are the problem. Christians have just become civilized in the last few hundred years, and Muslims countries haven't. There were plenty of Christians that used scripture to justify torturing and killing thousands, just like Muslims do now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal123 View Post
    I apostated from Islam and now there's people out there that want to kill me... That's a fucking problem. I can't even go some places now for fear of my safety. I was told some of them showed up at my house while I was away. That's the only reason that many people stay in it, because they fear for their lives.
    Not to mention how they treat women! Good for you for getting out, hopefully you didn't hop into another worthless religion.
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