ephedrine... can we still get the good stuff?

**justhav2p** · 02-06-2012, 07:17 PM

checking up on ephedrine. gonna run it with dnp ...

any of the illegal good shit avail or is it all that ECA shit?

**ExLe** · 02-06-2012, 11:14 PM

Bronkaid and primatene are about it...

I tried the making the ECA stack with caffeine and asprin, but it's just not the same...

God I miss that stuff...

Best workouts ever...

I would get a better high off that stuff than the street crap that's around...

If you see any ephedra products being sold online, they use ephedra leaves.

An inactive ingredient added to fool the consumer...

**ShreddedOatz** · 02-06-2012, 11:15 PM

I would like some as well, anyone find anything post that shit...

**coolhandjames** · 02-06-2012, 11:35 PM

hijacking right quick, What helps with circulation ? anybody ?

**ExLe** · 02-06-2012, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by coolhandjames

hijacking right quick, What helps with circulation ? anybody ?

Circulation?...

**coolhandjames** · 02-06-2012, 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by ExLe

Circulation?...

I wanna get the blood pumping like

**Canucklehead** · 02-06-2012, 11:44 PM

Umm, ephedrine (straight ephedrine, in little white pills) is available OTC. WTF are you guys on about? I just go to the supp store by my house, $7.50/bottle.

**MRS.KOS** · 02-06-2012, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Canucklehead

Umm, ephedrine (straight ephedrine, in little white pills) is available OTC. WTF are you guys on about? I just go to the supp store by my house, $7.50/bottle.

banned here

**ExLe** · 02-06-2012, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Canucklehead

Umm, ephedrine (straight ephedrine, in little white pills) is available OTC. WTF are you guys on about? I just go to the supp store by my house, $7.50/bottle.

You don't get the same stim effect as you got with the old ECA Formulas they would sell...

Don't know why, but it's not the same...

The old stuff made me feel like a Greek God...

**ExLe** · 02-06-2012, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by coolhandjames

I wanna get the blood pumping like

As in a stimulant?...

**gilby1987** · 02-06-2012, 11:57 PM

I order it from Gorillajack.com 8mg pills are the biggest legal sold to the states but its cheap and it works great! They also offer nice bulk prices check it out!

**ExLe** · 02-07-2012, 12:07 AM

Comment:
Something that improves all around blood circulation, i wanna see my veins bulging

Regards,
coolhandjames

If you are looking for blood flow and bulging veins go with...

L-arginine...
http://www.nitricoxidesupplementsite.com/l-arginine

Try Yok3d by USP labs... People say it's hit and miss but when it hits it's insane...

I personaly would just buy L-arginine pure bulk powder...

You could also get a similar effect going with

beta-alanine
or
AAKG

Anything that is a precursor to nitric oxide will give you blood flow and bulging veins while you are lifting...

Citrulline malate is OK for this as well...

**Canucklehead** · 02-07-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by ExLe

You don't get the same stim effect as you got with the old ECA Formulas they would sell...

Don't know why, but it's not the same...

The old stuff made me feel like a Greek God...

Dosing is a big part of it, some of those old formulas had like 400+mg caffiene/50+mg ephedrine per dose. Stupid high doses. When I was a young teen I worked with a bunch of older BBer wannabes that would hand them out like candy (hey you look tired, take a couple of these...

).

Also, a lot of the older fat burners got their ephedrine from Ma Huang extract, which has other actives in it as well if I recall right.

**secdrl** · 02-07-2012, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by ExLe

Comment:
Something that improves all around blood circulation, i wanna see my veins bulging

Regards,
coolhandjames

If you are looking for blood flow and bulging veins go with...

L-arginine...
http://www.nitricoxidesupplementsite.com/l-arginine

Wow.

**Canucklehead** · 02-07-2012, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by MRS.KOS

banned here

Hi Mrs. KOS!

**KILLEROFSAINTS** · 02-07-2012, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Canucklehead

Hi Mrs. KOS!

we are sharing the site now cause she is going to do a log

she is actually an ephedrine addict

hide this thread from her

**coolhandjames** · 02-07-2012, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by ExLe

Comment:
Something that improves all around blood circulation, i wanna see my veins bulging

Regards,
coolhandjames

If you are looking for blood flow and bulging veins go with...

L-arginine...
http://www.nitricoxidesupplementsite.com/l-arginine

Try Yok3d by USP labs... People say it's hit and miss but when it hits it's insane...

I personaly would just but L-arginine pure bulk powder...

You could also get a similar effect going with

beta-alanine
or
AAKG

Anything that is a precursor to nitric oxide will give you blood flow and bulging veins while you are lifting...

Citrulline malate is OK for this as well...

Just had to post it up huh?

Appreciate it bro i'll check it out

**Canucklehead** · 02-07-2012, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by KILLEROFSAINTS

we are sharing the site now cause she is going to do a log

she is actually an ephedrine addict

hide this thread from her

LOL that's cool.

I was when I was working graveyard shifts as a baker, I haven't used it for years. I just got some for our fatty contest, but I will be using tiny doses.

**ExLe** · 02-07-2012, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Canucklehead

Dosing is a big part of it, some of those old formulas had like 400+mg caffiene/50+mg ephedrine per dose. Stupid high doses. When I was a young teen I worked with a bunch of older BBer wannabes that would hand them out like candy (hey you look tired, take a couple of these...

).

Also, a lot of the older fat burners got their ephedrine from Ma Huang extract, which has other actives in it as well if I recall right.

The max dose legally back then was 25mg ephedrine per dose...

There was non that had 50mg per dose... If you were taking 50mg you were double dosing...

And yes I was one... That was the sweet spot...

**ExLe** · 02-07-2012, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by coolhandjames

Just had to post it up huh?

Appreciate it bro i'll check it out

bro...

Didn't know you wanted to keep it on the DL...

But you will get some nice wood as an added bonus with it!...

**Canucklehead** · 02-07-2012, 12:20 AM

Cool that she joined, not cool to be an addict, haha

**gilby1987** · 02-07-2012, 12:22 AM

Ephedrine HCL/Caffeine - Supplements Canada

**Canucklehead** · 02-07-2012, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by ExLe

The max dose legally back then was 25mg ephedrine per dose...

There was non that had 50mg per dose... If you were taking 50mg you were double dosing...

And yes I was one... That was the sweet spot...

Yeah 25mg ephedrine, but other ephedrine related compounds as well, that weren't usually listed as they were part of the extract.. from Wiki:

"the most commonly used species, E. sinica, has a total alkaloid content of 1–3% by dry weight. Ephedrine constitutes 40–90% of the alkaloid content, with the remainder consisting of pseudoephedrine and the demethylated forms of each compound"

**Canucklehead** · 02-07-2012, 12:33 AM

I may have been guilty of double-dosing once in a while as well...

**ExLe** · 02-07-2012, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by Canucklehead

I may have been guilty of double-dosing once in a while as well...

The high and pumps I got working out on a double dose of that stuff was sometimes better than sex...

And it would take months before you stared getting tolerant to it...

Not like this Dmaa crap that stops kicking after a couple weeks

**justhav2p** · 02-07-2012, 03:31 PM

so I'll take it as a no for the illegal old school pizils.

**ExLe** · 02-07-2012, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by justhav2p

so I'll take it as a no for the illegal old school pizils.

I know it sucks bro...

More rage here

But I gave up my search...

Just give the bronkaid with caffeine a shot...

**~RaZr~** · 02-07-2012, 03:42 PM

Bronkaid and Primatene are all that's left I. There is also Kaizen, but believe its all up in Canada.

I remember when Vasopure was cheap as hell. I think they even made gel caps that had ephedrine in them

Now the old hydroxycut before Muscletech pussied out was the SHIT!

**hypo_glycemic** · 02-07-2012, 03:50 PM

There's a lot of "the real" Vasapro still out there. Its HCL so really clean. They stopped production on all those bronchial products due meth. I sold a bunch at my store, until the state of CA started requiring customer info and signature. And I could only allocate 2 boxes a week.

**~RaZr~** · 02-07-2012, 03:53 PM

Hmm I must have thought that the OG vaso was a different form of E.

HCL is what is in Primatene. At least where I live, it's limited to only 2 boxes and requires the same signature and ID process.

My point was, I was agreeing with ExLe about the "old stuff" and how it compared to what we have now.

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