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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Neither. There are more than two candidates, you know. A vote for Obama or Romney is a vote for continued political bullshit.
    I get what you're saying, Zap; but why even vote then? A third party candidate has absolutely no chance of winning. In my opinion, if you're gonna vote third party, just don't vote at all. It's a waste of a vote.

    What can I do to convince you to vote for Romney/Ryan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by secdrl View Post
    I get what you're saying, Zap; but why even vote then? A third party candidate has absolutely no chance of winning. In my opinion, if you're gonna vote third party, just don't vote at all. It's a waste of a vote.

    What can I do to convince you to vote for Romney/Ryan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by secdrl View Post
    I get what you're saying, Zap; but why even vote then? A third party candidate has absolutely no chance of winning. In my opinion, if you're gonna vote third party, just don't vote at all. It's a waste of a vote.

    What can I do to convince you to vote for Romney/Ryan?
    Why vote? It's my duty to my country. Why would I vote for anyone that will not represent me or my ideals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Why vote? It's my duty to my country. Why would I vote for anyone that will not represent me or my ideals?
    Vote Ron Paul!
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    Quote Originally Posted by secdrl View Post
    I get what you're saying, Zap; but why even vote then? A third party candidate has absolutely no chance of winning. In my opinion, if you're gonna vote third party, just don't vote at all. It's a waste of a vote.

    What can I do to convince you to vote for Romney/Ryan?
    1948 Democrats were a third party. votes can make a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyusa View Post
    Vote Ron Paul!
    hes got my vote

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    "This Facebook fiasco is one of the biggest clusterf**ks ever on Wall Street. Regular people got screwed and the banks and the insiders did okay. Or as Mitt Romney calls it, 'The American Dream.'" Bill Maher

    

"Mitt Romney was attacking Obama about our failing education system. He has a point. We are graduating millions of people in this country who are so lacking in basic analytical skills, they are considering voting for Mitt Romney." Bill Maher

    "A new biography came out that says that in high school Obama was a huge pothead ? Mitt Romney had to respond to this and said, "It is appalling that Obama spent his teenage years goofing around and smoking pot when he should have been pinning down gay kids and cutting their hair." Bill Maher

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    "Mitt Romney, who is on record saying that he would not waste money going after bin Laden, on record saying he would not violate Pakistan's border to get bin Laden, this week said, 'Of course I would have gotten bin Laden.' Even his Etch-A-Sketch went, seriously?" Bill Maher

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    i know a lot of people don't like obama but seriously, I'm just not finding shit like this about barry. if you are then post it. mittens seems like a real peach... and by peach i mean a dangerous psychopath.


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    "I've seen other publications refer to these incidents from Romney's childhood years as "pranks". I was in high school. I pulled pranks. These alleged incidents don't strike me as remotely things I'd describe as pranks or hijinks. As reported, they come off as vicious and disturbing,"



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    i'm wondering how all these things get out that had to have come from family members. i wonder if someone inside the family is trying to undermine him? these aren't flattering things and whoever made them public must know that

    The 'Romney Olympics': Mitt's bizarre, regimented vacation - The Week

    Does Romney's family like the Romney Olympics?
    Yes. Tagg tells Rucker that it's everyone's favorite week of the year. Then again, says Hartmann, it sounds like "the first and second rule of the Romney family vacation is, 'You do not talk about how much you hate the Romney family vacation.'"

    i think Tagg is the leak.

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    Obama has been somewhat spineless and far to quick to try and appease the unappeasable. The areas I feel he has failed are many where the policy is the same as it was under GWB. Obama didnt change shit !! Maybe, just maybe in a second term, he will do the right thing and make some real changes

    Romney deffinitely wont change anything, he believe in the shit thats been failing for the past 11 years now

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    i keep wondering what anyone here on either side would do to make everyone happy??? it's impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    Why vote? It's my duty to my country. Why would I vote for anyone that will not represent me or my ideals?
    I agree that it's your duty to vote. I guess personally, I look at it like if you're gonna vote for someone who has no chance of winning, you're indirectly giving your vote to either one of the two candidates. Like, if you vote for Ron Paul, that's essentially a vote for Obama. If you vote for Roseanne Barr () that's essentially a vote for Mitt Romney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    1948 Democrats were a third party. votes can make a difference
    Yeah, I guess Ron Paul has a real strong chance.

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    maybe obama should win again..that way he can bring us down even further and then the conservative who's in 2016 has only uphill to go and will be easy then since can't get worse than BO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by irish_2003 View Post
    maybe obama should win again..that way he can bring us down even further and then the conservative who's in 2016 has only uphill to go and will be easy then since can't get worse than BO...
    I agree bro. With the .2 Trillion more that Obama has spent than every President combined and sunk our economy worse then ever, he can fix things. We can always just blame everything on Bush if all else fails. Obamacare is Bush's fault also.

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    how long would someone live if they said if you live here your factories need to be here and you need to employ the people here or you can be deported to where your factory is? every factory has a year to comply. and you pay a larger tax on shit you buy that's not made in america by americans?

    then we brought this back in a modernized way Civilian Conservation Corps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. when you go to a state park around here you see the result of this still. it's staggering.

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    then we kill off all the unreformable garbage in our prisons and streamline the death penalty process.

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    Last edited by Little Wing; 08-17-2012 at 01:46 PM.

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    show America what the total amount is for ALL government employee paychecks, retirement, health care, and benefit/perk packages and ask us where to reduce it. etc etc etc.


    if anyone has a guy that's on the same page as me let me know.
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    close the methadone clinics. people i know get paid $3oo a head just to transport people to bangor for their fix. one woman makes 4 trips a day with 4 people each time. that's tax money folks.

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    legalize pot and tax the shit out of it. stop funding the ridiculous war one drugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Wing View Post
    then we kill off all the unreformable garbage in our prisons and streamline the death penalty process.
    That's such a small percentage of our prison population. Over 50% of our inmates are in jail just for nonviolent drug charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyle21 View Post
    That's such a small percentage of our prison population. Over 50% of our inmates are in jail just for nonviolent drug charges.
    they would go free. the war on drugs would be over and that would be part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyle21 View Post
    That's such a small percentage of our prison population. Over 50% of our inmates are in jail just for nonviolent drug charges.
    Violent offenders accounted for sixty percent of state prison population growth from 2000 to 2008. In 2008, the number of offenders sentenced to state prison for violent offenses reached 715,400, up from 95,400 violent offenders in 2000.
    Note that this was during a period of substantially reduced violent crime throughout the country. See Crime Rates and Totals–United States–Crime in America.
    This increase accounted for sixty percent of prison growth during this period.
    Drug offenders declined. There were 12,400 fewer drug offenders in state prison in 2008 than in 2000.


    52.4% of sentenced prisoners in state prisons at year end 2008 were in for violent crimes



    there's enough of them to make a difference.

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    Mittens Romney- Psychopath



    Willlard "Mittens" Romney has many of the classic elements of a psychopath. He is glib and charming. Nothing sticks to him. He is unable to relate a true position on any issue. He started out doing less than well in school, until suddenly his grades improved, indicating that he finally reached a point that he could get someone to do his work for him or pay to have them get better. He is completely without compassion and is unable to connect to real people in any way that is measurable.

    He makes laughable assertions with a complete straight face. His activity at Bain Capital was predatory and destructive. Psychopaths can't create anything they can only destroy. And in this current race for president he has adopted an intractable position on releasing his tax returns. We have also found out that he still has a considerable amount of money invested in Bain funds that are located in tax havens like the Cayman Islands. And now a new twist on the saga. The seed money that was used to fund Bain came from rich people in El Salvador at the time of the Sandinista/Contra civil war and the ensuing Iran/Contra affair. It is highly unlikely that Mittens would have been able to elicit funds from prominent people in El Salvador without the help or knowledge of Colonel North and company running the illegal drugs for guns for murder racket. Something that a psychopath would be drawn to with relish.

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