Thread: The reason repubs lost

Originally Posted by exphys88

Gay rights
Women's reproductive rights
Immigration

It's obvious that younger voters are very liberal on these issues and if repubs don't change w the times and focus on the economy, they'll continue to lose.

A pro choice, pro gay marriage fiscal conservative is what they need.

Which is what the libertarian party already is.

Originally Posted by hoyle21

Which is what the libertarian party already is.

Yes they are, but a true libertarian is too extreme. For instance, no Medicare, no soc security, no disability insurance, no foster care for orphans etc.
And we're stuck in a 2 party system.

Originally Posted by exphys88

Yes they are, but a true libertarian is too extreme. For instance, no Medicare, no soc security, no disability insurance, no foster care for orphans etc.
And we're stuck in a 2 party system.

I'm in full agreement with why the republicans lost this election however your framing of "true libertarians" is off.

Gary Johnson's (the libertarian nominee) views on medicare and SS:
Political positions of Gary Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by troubador

I'm in full agreement with why the republicans lost this election however your framing of "true libertarians" is off.

Gary Johnson's (the libertarian nominee) views on medicare and SS:
Political positions of Gary Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are correct. There is no such thing as a "true libertarian." Some libertarians are for zero government though, but Johnson obviously is not of that mindset.

Originally Posted by exphys88

You are correct. There is no such thing as a "true libertarian." Some libertarians are for zero government though, but Johnson obviously is not of that mindset.

hence why Ron Paul never ran a Liberian campaign... Even though his mindset leans that way, he knew the title alone would destroy his chances.

A fiscal conservative with liberal social policies would fit America the best. But what party is going to stand behind that... We have some evolution before that occurs. If global warming doesn't get us first...

the party bs only gets in the way. just give us a good man with great ideas.

Originally Posted by exphys88

Gay rights
Women's reproductive rights
Immigration

It's obvious that younger voters are very liberal on these issues and if repubs don't change w the times and focus on the economy, they'll continue to lose.

A pro choice, pro gay marriage fiscal conservative is what they need.

I'll clarify:

-homosexuals want to tarnish the religious institution of marriage even though they are not religious and every major religion abhors their lifestyle
-women want taxpayers to foot the bill for their infanticide
-illegal immigrants want citizenship and taxpayer-funded food, housing, healthcare, education etc.

republicans (and reasonable people in general) were against this, so they lost. Democrats (socialists) are for this, which is why they won. Young people are mostly idiots, which is why IMO, the voting age should be raised to 40.

That description actually fits Romney quite well. A fiscal conservative, but a Massachusetts moderate. The problem was his campaign was horrible. He just spent all of his energy talking about the economy, and was dragged to the far right to appease the social conservatives. Paul Ryan as a VP choice was not a good one, he would have been better off picking Marco Rubio. The Obama camp went out talked to people, and pulled voters in. Not only did Obama get the black vote, women vote, and young vote he got the asian vote as well. Nearly 75% of Asians voted for Obama, so it's not like the govt. dependents got Obama in the White house.

With the hispanic population rapidly increasing, the republicans will need to drastically change their approach, or they will fade away.

Romney lying about Chrysler outsourcing jobs to China at the last minute also didn't help.

they should count your vote based on the amount of land you own...

He got 70% of the Jewish vote too.

^^The good ole days

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

I'll clarify:

-homosexuals want to tarnish the religious institution of marriage even though they are not religious and every major religion abhors their lifestyle
-women want taxpayers to foot the bill for their infanticide
-illegal immigrants want citizenship and taxpayer-funded food, housing, healthcare, education etc.

republicans (and reasonable people in general) were against this, so they lost. Democrats (socialists) are for this, which is why they won. Young people are mostly idiots, which is why IMO, the voting age should be raised to 40.

Straights tarnish the religious institution of marriage far more than gays. Apparently you aren't aware of divorce rates. Divorce rates have dropped a little but that is only because people can't afford it. The bible belt has the highest divorce rate in the nation. Seems the bible thumpers are doing their best to tarnish marriage.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

I'll clarify:

-homosexuals want to tarnish the religious institution of marriage even though they are not religious and every major religion abhors their lifestyle
-women want taxpayers to foot the bill for their infanticide
-illegal immigrants want citizenship and taxpayer-funded food, housing, healthcare, education etc.

republicans (and reasonable people in general) were against this, so they lost. Democrats (socialists) are for this, which is why they won. Young people are mostly idiots, which is why IMO, the voting age should be raised to 40.

Your views are why you guys lost, and why if the repubs don't adapt will continue to lose. Your voting block is getting old and dying off. Fortunately for us social libs this country is a democracy and we have more votes.

Even if they raised the voting limit, the younger generations will soon reach 40 and still be ok w gays and abortion rights, and anti religion. It's the result of education and progression.

Looking at the election results you can't deny the cultural shift that is happening in this country. Gay rights passed a vote in three states. In Colorado weed got 50,000 more votes than Obama.

Gay marriage will be national and weed will be legalized in my lifetime. The opponents are dying off.

I see that happening, I agree Marj. should be legal across the board and there is to much gov't regulation on many things that it is stupid, but the biggest problem i see with the legalization is finding a way to accurately test some one to see if they are high or not. There will be many innocent people fucked because of DUI or fired at work. What I am getting at say I smoke weed for a year, most pot smokers I know that smoke for a while get that personality of being slower like they are when they are high (not every one but a majority) a cop pulled them over and they seem high, but they are not... How will the cop no if they recently smoked? When a test will indicate they have it in their system, due to the life span of it in your body.

Same goes for an employeer, they want to fire some one. So they say hey he showed up to work high... You cant show up to work high, so take this test... he fails and is fired...

I am just curious how it is going to play out in that aspect. This actually happened to my friend, he has his card and got pulled over for a roll through on stop sign. Cop pulled him over and smelled weed (guys car reeks of weed) shows the cop the card that he is medicated and admits to having his legal limit on him. Cop asks have you smoked recently, he says no i have not. In the report the cop put he seemed slow and under the influence... My buddy got a day in jail and a DUI, also lost his cannabis card. He did not smoke at all, just has the personality of a fucking brain dead monkey.

gays should be allowed to be married, I am a christian but I am a FIRM believer in the constitution and equal rights.

Originally Posted by cshea2

That description actually fits Romney quite well. A fiscal conservative, but a Massachusetts moderate. The problem was his campaign was horrible. He just spent all of his energy talking about the economy, and was dragged to the far right to appease the social conservatives. Paul Ryan as a VP choice was not a good one, he would have been better off picking Marco Rubio. The Obama camp went out talked to people, and pulled voters in. Not only did Obama get the black vote, women vote, and young vote he got the asian vote as well. Nearly 75% of Asians voted for Obama, so it's not like the govt. dependents got Obama in the White house.

With the hispanic population rapidly increasing, the republicans will need to drastically change their approach, or they will fade away.

Romney lying about Chrysler outsourcing jobs to China at the last minute also didn't help.

75% of asians live here in hawaii of course they are gonna vote for a local boy

im not against gay marriage.


but'

you can't deny that niggers voted for him because he's a nigger

spics voted for him for "free stuff" and citizenship

young people voted for him because young people are idiots and worried about inconsequential things like social issues during a time of ECONOMIC MELTDOWN. Raise the voting age to 40 so they'll (hopefully) have careers and families and will understand what is really important

women voted for him because... well, to be honest, women are generally pretty stupid and have only reached the level they have in society due to reverse descrimination against men (much like spics and niggers)

i rest my case

Originally Posted by exphys88

You are correct. There is no such thing as a "true libertarian." Some libertarians are for zero government though, but Johnson obviously is not of that mindset.

There no precise definition(nor could there be) but libertarianism entails at least some form of government to enforce property rights and protect life. When people in this country say 'libertarian' they're referring to the common practical definition not some far away ideological definition. Either way, the libertarian party doesn't endorse what you were talking about.

Side note: It ticks me off when people use the strawman that a libertarian society would be like Somalia just like it ticks me off when creationists argue gorillas didn't turn into humans because there are still gorillas.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

im not against gay marriage.


but'

you can't deny that niggers voted for him because he's a nigger

spics voted for him for "free stuff" and citizenship

young people voted for him because young people are idiots and worried about inconsequential things like social issues during a time of ECONOMIC MELTDOWN. Raise the voting age to 40 so they'll (hopefully) have careers and families and will understand what is really important

women voted for him because... well, to be honest, women are generally pretty stupid and have only reached the level they have in society due to reverse descrimination against men (much like spics and niggers)

i rest my case

This explains why you're still a virgin.

Originally Posted by hoyle21

This explains why you're still a virgin.

lol yeah basically

but u know im right.. probably why you came up with the virgin comment

Originally Posted by hoyle21

This explains why you're still a virgin.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

im not against gay marriage.


but'

you can't deny that niggers voted for him because he's a nigger

spics voted for him for "free stuff" and citizenship

young people voted for him because young people are idiots and worried about inconsequential things like social issues during a time of ECONOMIC MELTDOWN. Raise the voting age to 40 so they'll (hopefully) have careers and families and will understand what is really important

women voted for him because... well, to be honest, women are generally pretty stupid and have only reached the level they have in society due to reverse descrimination against men (much like spics and niggers)

i rest my case

The first statement means you've won the argument. When libs fall back to name calling, you've won. Nice work.

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

lol yeah basically

but u know im right.. probably why you came up with the virgin comment

I don't think women are dumb, I think they want the ability to make decisions on their health and reproductive organs.

Originally Posted by hoyle21

I don't think women are dumb, I think they want the ability to make decisions on their health and reproductive organs.

what do you mean by health and reproductive organs?

and women actually are dumb cept for margaret thatcher but she was basically a man.. i have a couple pictures to illustrate this brb

Hawaii and Cali..

i hope these uploaded..






shit.. well i guess you'll just have to take my word for it then, they are too big :/


but if you've lived for more than 16 years.. you would know by now that women are generally pretty fucking stupid