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theCaptn'
02-07-2010, 02:55 PM
If you're looking to kickstart a cycle with an oral (say dbol), is it still worth frontloading your test?

Thanks

GearsMcGilf
02-07-2010, 03:52 PM
I'm wondering the same thing meself. As long as you pin the test left handed you should be fine.

GICH! :thumb:

heavyiron
02-07-2010, 08:39 PM
Frontloading has very little increased benefit. Employ the oral.

theCaptn'
02-07-2010, 08:44 PM
Frontloading has very little increased benefit. Employ the oral.

thanks heavy . . the theory behind frontloading sounds logical . . what's your reasoning?

theCaptn'
02-07-2010, 09:07 PM
What you're saying is correct, however frontloading theory takes into account the half life of long-esters, to establish target plasma levels early in the cycle. This must have some bearing on the 'effects'

What about using short-estered test (prop) to kick start the cycle?



BTW the intra-anal oral steriod delivery method sounds novel, the capt has done similar experiments with MDMA quite successfully :thumb:

VictorZ06
02-07-2010, 09:32 PM
No need to use both. I'd use either test prop OR dbol to front. Dbol is more fun though, but prop is ideal as it works fast and has far less risk of scarring your liver.

/V

heavyiron
02-07-2010, 09:42 PM
thanks heavy . . the theory behind frontloading sounds logical . . what's your reasoning?
It is logical to raise blood androgens high and fast and get them steady but that does not mean muscle will build much faster. Muscle takes time to build regardless of androgen levels. You MIGHT get an extra week headstart frontloading a heavy ester over not frontloading. In the end it is not an efficient use of gear.

theCaptn'
02-07-2010, 09:50 PM
Thank You gentlemen . . :thumb: