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k4rr
05-27-2011, 05:46 AM
So when the site is up for business again.

Are the products a new batch or existing?

Does Z lab test his ingredients?

OMEGAx
05-27-2011, 06:21 AM
~This weekend

~Yes gear is tested, labs not posted do to safety

~Look at this guys blood values:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/unclez/130932-so-i-got-my-labs-today.html?

k4rr
05-27-2011, 08:28 AM
~This weekend

~Yes gear is tested, labs not posted do to safety

~Look at this guys blood values:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/unclez/130932-so-i-got-my-labs-today.html?


Ok, well how come so many good reviews here on this site.

Everyone here talks it up and most haven't even used the product!

Yet on so many other places dating back to 2009 there is BAD reviews of Z products and his service?

D-Lats
05-27-2011, 08:53 AM
Ok, well how come so many good reviews here on this site.

Everyone here talks it up and most haven't even used the product!

Yet on so many other places dating back to 2009 there is BAD reviews of Z products and his service?

It's a competitive business bro. There is not one source online that hasn't been accused of being scanners. Noone forces anyone to use any gear try it choose for yourself. Or move on but I gaurentee anyone that's actually tried z gear will tell you it's good. The Internet is full of bullshit don't believe everything you read IMO.

OMEGAx
05-27-2011, 09:01 AM
Ok, well how come so many good reviews here on this site.

Everyone here talks it up and most haven't even used the product!

Yet on so many other places dating back to 2009 there is BAD reviews of Z products and his service?


hey i know how it can seem sometime like its "Hype" but in this case and for now its not

Z right now is gold............till we all experience differently.

murf23
05-27-2011, 11:16 AM
the only real way is to try bro ...i honestly thought some of these guys talkin him up were full of shit but i had to take the challenge myself so i went with the guy who has the least negative reviews and i guess i got lucky bro and these guys were not bullshitting ...now im one of those guys ppl probaly think im on the payroll too ...i wish i was but im not ...the shit is legit ...by the way Z if u want me on the payroll just let me know i will work for juice fuck cash lol

ordawg1
05-27-2011, 02:36 PM
No hype- just facts. Many of the guys are using Z Gear full time and Z has quite a following. Yes- there are haters out there- but is a tough biz bro. If you want quality gear- you have come to the right place.

living good
05-27-2011, 02:56 PM
1st timer with Z... 5 weeks in... It is gold bro... NO BS. great gear took 2 weeks to get, and that was a couple weeks before the halt. There on there game believe it. I ordered from naps (just some back up stuff) because z is on halt.... still not here, I have faith that it will arrive from naps, but again still not here.

a843
05-27-2011, 09:05 PM
Ok, well how come so many good reviews here on this site.

Everyone here talks it up and most haven't even used the product!

Yet on so many other places dating back to 2009 there is BAD reviews of Z products and his service?

Most bad reviews are due to dumbasses that dont know how to fill out a M.O correctly and wonder why z didn't recieve it. if you do everything correct you'll be in good hands here.

Repo
05-27-2011, 10:35 PM
Ok, well how come so many good reviews here on this site.

Everyone here talks it up and most haven't even used the product!

Yet on so many other places dating back to 2009 there is BAD reviews of Z products and his service?

K4rr and I have chatted about this through PM - and I'm just going to copy and past my response (plus a little extra info) for other who migh have the same concern.

Just because of the nature of the business - it's a topic that will repeatedly come up again ... "under dosing was also a concern - so I do cover this as well."

My response was something like this...

When I first started researching Z and his business - I seen most customers who left feedback from "their" experience - was almost always very good - plus most of them have become very loyal customers as well .... "except for the obvious rummers."

Every time I hear of a product being under dosed or anything bad about Z - it’s always one of several possibilities.

Either it’s someone working for someone else - they’re just trying to discredit him and his business and they are falsely creating lies and spreading rumors.

The second is hear-say and they are simply going by what they have heard - which has usually been started from option one.

The third is someone who is very new to gear and has expectations of gaining 10 lb. of lean muscle in the first two weeks - or even a variation of improper implementation of gear, diet or training.

Everything else was positive feedback from customers who were extremely loyal and very happy with mim and his business.

There was one other instance where there might be a mistake in an order but the customer did not properly try and contact Z to correct the issue.

When ever there was an issue that was brought to Z’s attention - I’ve seen him go way above and beyond the customers expectations to compensate the customer - this is not the actions of someone who tries to save pennies by scrimping on under dosing gear.

Here's something that might also help with any under dosing rummers - a couple months ago Z was telling me he actually tells his makers to add a little extra so there is not any chance of products being under dosed - but not so much where it is also over dosed.

One last note - I haven't seen anyone positing great reviews who have never used the products - but if that's the case - please state that you have not actually used the product yet - and you are stating this on what you have "heard."

If anyone still has any questions just PM me as I'm always glad to help if I'm able. :)

robbiek426
05-28-2011, 12:47 AM
People will say what they want to say and be loyal to their guy. Z's business is constantly growing because he gives great customer satisfaction and top quality gear. His stuff is the real deal. No one has any reason to mislead you here. Most of us have tried other sources and werent as satisfied as we are with Z. This is a business brother, does burger king say their burgers are better than mcdonalds? Of course. Thats how this shit goes.

dav1dg90
05-28-2011, 05:41 AM
Fck the others!!!!!!:shooter: Z is where it's at!!!!:winkfinger:

Justinbro
05-28-2011, 05:48 AM
I have seen any posts on Z's Var. Anyone tried it?

slow-90lx
05-28-2011, 09:46 AM
I have seen any posts on Z's Var. Anyone tried it?

Yes, a friend and I are running z's var.

First time with gear beyond ph/ds.

Just hit my full third week in, (first full week on test e 500mg a week) first two weeks were var solo. (so I can have a four week break from orals and still have a 4 week oral run at the end)

I am on a lean diet and I can say I definitely can see more veins popping and I am up 10lbs on lifts and def getting a rep or two more out as well.

Its definitely not dbol or drol as some bunk var is. No bloat what so ever. No sides to report.

Friend is just about to wrap up week 7 and has broke all PR's on lifts. He is super psyched on his second cycle. First cycle was some underdosed sus. He is blown away at the difference in Z's gear. Already has his next two runs planned out.

:ohyeah:

ordawg1
05-28-2011, 10:41 AM
Zs var is golden. I have used var for many years and way before the internet was around. Var is a graet compound IMO. It is often overlooked by men and some consider it a woman thing. It is great for women- but it has been fantastic for men. Z s var is the best out there period. I have had stuff sold to me as var and was simply Dbol many times. You will love the var from Z especially if you have had some of the bunk that is all throughout this industry.

Repo
05-28-2011, 10:55 AM
Yes, a friend and I are running z's var.

First time with gear beyond ph/ds.

Just hit my full third week in, (first full week on test e 500mg a week) first two weeks were var solo. (so I can have a four week break from orals and still have a 4 week oral run at the end)

I am on a lean diet and I can say I definitely can see more veins popping and I am up 10lbs on lifts and def getting a rep or two more out as well.

Its definitely not dbol or drol as some bunk var is. No bloat what so ever. No sides to report.

Friend is just about to wrap up week 7 and has broke all PR's on lifts. He is super psyched on his second cycle. First cycle was some underdosed sus. He is blown away at the difference in Z's gear. Already has his next two runs planned out.

:ohyeah:

This is exactly how a review should be ... "honest."

Here, he lays out the results exactly how they "should" be - and it's exactly what's to be expected from this cycle.

The comparison to Dbol is perfect and gives the reader information to create a cycle that will produce the desired results.

It's not the powerhouse like Dbol, but you also don't have the bloat - which might be perfect for a summer cycle.

Plus the results his buddy is seeing also helps to se what might be expected in the long run.

Great review ... "well done." :thumbs:

k4rr
05-28-2011, 11:31 AM
I am ordering from Z.

Talked to a local guy who has used his gear before.

Fuck all the haters on other sites,etc....

Justinbro
05-28-2011, 11:32 AM
Good to hear. Now I wonder how it would compare to DMT which as the same comparison to Dbol.

bmw
05-28-2011, 11:47 AM
Z-line products have been gtg IME.

robbiek426
05-28-2011, 08:33 PM
Just give them a try, well worth it and I think that anyone who tries Unclez becomes a life customer just due to the service you get alone!

bigpoppapump
05-28-2011, 11:44 PM
I will be ordering from z. Just heard great things from the quality, ship time and customer service. Can't wait to try it out. I've waited for this Mon. to come ever since the halt.

jackedntan
05-29-2011, 12:26 AM
I'm psyched for z to be back up n running. I'm running his zline test e right now and kickstarted with his zline abombs. Shits legit, I blew up TOO fast.

OMEGAx
05-29-2011, 10:01 AM
Ordawg my thought exactly on the VAR it is over looked

I was convinced when my colleagues endocrinologist scripted him some ( yeas really lol)

my friend took tren slin, everything.......and he said the addition of real var had a positive effect, defiantly not a bull substance

OMEGAx
05-29-2011, 10:03 AM
ps guys there is nothing wrong with being critical if its placed well, and also explained.

no one wants censorship or anything........

OTG85
05-30-2011, 03:28 PM
Never had any problems or doubts with z's gear always seen great results