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strategos14
06-07-2011, 07:42 AM
So a little over 2 weeks ago my sust ran out. was taking 400mg a wk for about 8 wks. my libido was very high. along with some acne on the back, a little on the chest and occasionally some redness of face. when it ran out i went straight into the Euro test E at 500mg a wk split into 2 shots. my libido has been down since and the acne and redness is gone. obviously i'm concerned about the libido thing. is this normal you think? do to the esters and whatnot? the sust i was taking with 150mg of tren a wk and the test E i'm taking with 200mg of masteron a wk and 50mg a day of winny. my libido isn't dead but it's noticeably down. and i got more than one girl who's noticed if you know what i mean lol. do you think the mast and winny are effecting it? or is sust just that much more awesome? of should i give the test e some more time to kick in? thanks in advance fellas.

ordawg1
06-07-2011, 08:11 AM
See if BP is slightly elavated and if you are bloating.If this is the case-take one aspirin daily and get some cialis.

strategos14
06-07-2011, 08:17 AM
^^well i know i'm not bloating. but why would i need cialis on 500mg of test e?

CobraNinja
06-07-2011, 08:23 AM
dont take this the wrong way. but try this: go to youporn.com and start looking at videos without any thought of desire in your mind and dont touch your prick and dont try to make yourself turned on. just watch the video as it goes. if u dont get aroused after watching a few anal scens/cock sucking scenes then something is wrong. basically, i think that all that test requires more of a turn on, or more test = more arousal needed.

strategos14
06-07-2011, 08:53 AM
^^^lol Christ i didn't say i was dead guys! i just hit it last night as a matter of fact. all i said was that while on the sust i was insane randy all the time and since i switched to test e, i haven't been nearly as much. i was wondering if the esters had something to do with a suspected drop in test or whatever.

D-Lats
06-07-2011, 09:17 AM
There could be some lag time between the sust and the test e bevause sustanon has faster acting test in it (prop) so now that its cleared it will take time for the test e levels to build up and start working. I would say hold on another week and ill bet your sporting a porno wood again brother :winkfinger:

Acee
06-07-2011, 09:25 AM
I would have thought that with the test E you should be more horny as with the Sus you could be subject to 'Deca dick'

D-Lats
06-07-2011, 09:31 AM
I would have thought that with the test E you should be more horny as with the Sus you could be subject to 'Deca dick'
how there is no deca in sustanon?:geewhiz:

strych9v2
06-07-2011, 10:08 AM
haaaaa i thought there was deca in sustanon???? lol

strategos14
06-07-2011, 10:37 AM
lol yeah i know there isn't deca in sust. he might have been thinking of the decanoate ester that's in sust and confused it. anyway, thanks D-Las. i was kinda thinking that might be the case. i'll give it some more time. i'm expecting 500mg of the Euro to be pretty powerful. heard that it is. and i've never done that much test at once. i may just be overreacting anyway. i mean, i know my libido has lowered but it was only a problem once the other day. but i was also a total hungover exhausted mess that day too so who fuckin knows.

D-Lats
06-07-2011, 10:50 AM
lol yeah i know there isn't deca in sust. he might have been thinking of the decanoate ester that's in sust and confused it. anyway, thanks D-Las. i was kinda thinking that might be the case. i'll give it some more time. i'm expecting 500mg of the Euro to be pretty powerful. heard that it is. and i've never done that much test at once. i may just be overreacting anyway. i mean, i know my libido has lowered but it was only a problem once the other day. but i was also a total hungover exhausted mess that day too so who fuckin knows.

Ya bro give it a bit. Alchohol is known to lower test and can definatly cause libido issues (whiskey dick) lol. Ive heard of this happening before when goung from sus to a long ester, id reccomend next time sticking with one test or if you have to switch go with prop and you wont miss a beat.

OTG85
06-07-2011, 11:54 AM
Yea test e will take 2-3 weeks to kick in should have front loaded it

OTG85
06-07-2011, 11:57 AM
Ya bro give it a bit. Alchohol is known to lower test and can definatly cause libido issues (whiskey dick) lol. Ive heard of this happening before when goung from sus to a long ester, id reccomend next time sticking with one test or if you have to switch go with prop and you wont miss a beat.

whiskey Dick sucks I can get hard but can't get off good for her bad for me.I usually have fake it after a while so she don't think its her and get all emotional lol

ordawg1
06-07-2011, 01:36 PM
^^well i know i'm not bloating. but why would i need cialis on 500mg of test e?

No bloat and BP is good- then just give it time and all will be good.:winkfinger:

OldSchoolLifter
06-07-2011, 01:50 PM
haaaaa i thought there was deca in sustanon???? lol


LOL What! There is Testosterone Decanate ( No Nandralone)

GH Consigliere
06-07-2011, 01:54 PM
their is deca in sust

OldSchoolLifter
06-07-2011, 01:59 PM
their is deca in sust

right but not the deca as most think of deca ( Nandralone) Deca is just a very long ester, in sust the deca ester is attached to testosterone

strategos14
06-07-2011, 02:43 PM
^^exactly Old School. and thanks for all the response guys. i didn't intend to go from sust to test e. kinda just turned out that it had to be that way. at least i know the how i feel on each as this had been my first time with using sust. in a few hours i'll be put to the test again so i'll see what up then. literally whats UP lol

Repo
06-07-2011, 08:49 PM
Something else to keep in mind - if your estrogen levels get too high - your libido will go down.

Most likely, it's the time lag in esters from sustanon to enanthate.

However, just keep your estrogen in check as well - if this does become a problem an AI such as Aromasin will help with estrogen very quickly.

This is a great question as it's one of the many sneaky misconceptions that screw the mind into thinking gear is or isn't working. :nail:

strategos14
06-07-2011, 08:56 PM
^^^ yo thanks Repo. i like to think i know my shit but i was thinking that taking AI and lowering estrogen would LOWER libido. don't know why the hell i thought that. i have a bunch of nolva. i occasionally pop sum when i feel i need it. i wish i had A-dex or aromasin but z don't sell it and i just hadn't gotten around to trying somewhere else. i know nolva don't actually lower estrogen but it can't hurt right?

D-Lats
06-07-2011, 09:41 PM
Nolvadex blocks the estrogen at the receptor receptor. Arimadex will kill the estrogen completely.

Repo
06-08-2011, 03:01 AM
^^^ yo thanks Repo. i like to think i know my shit but i was thinking that taking AI and lowering estrogen would LOWER libido. don't know why the hell i thought that. i have a bunch of nolva. i occasionally pop sum when i feel i need it. i wish i had A-dex or aromasin but z don't sell it and i just hadn't gotten around to trying somewhere else. i know nolva don't actually lower estrogen but it can't hurt right?

If you do use an AI - I would only use it only if needed - and yes you're right - nolva also lowers estrogen - but the same goes for this too - as you don't want to use it if not needed, as it can reduce your gains.

What I like about Aromasin is that it is the only suicidal inhibitor.

Like D says - Arimadex is also good

Nolva is best for SERM treatment while Aromasin or Arimadex is good to have on hand for your AI.

Sooo many choices - but your doing the right thing by asking questions. :thumb:

CobraNinja
06-08-2011, 04:50 PM
i recommend PROVIRON, look into it, read up on it, u'll get 3-4 boners for no reason daily

ordawg1
06-08-2011, 09:00 PM
i recommend PROVIRON, look into it, read up on it, u'll get 3-4 boners for no reason daily

Yes !!! that is why I have bags of proviron around as old ordawg loves them " no reason boners" :clapping: great st:winkfinger:uff

D-Lats
06-08-2011, 09:04 PM
Yes !!! that is why I have bags of proviron around as old ordawg loves them " no reason boners" :clapping: great st:winkfinger:uff

OD keeps them in his pocket in a tic tac pack!! He can press the button on the elevator from the back corner!! "going up?" :roflmao:

strategos14
06-08-2011, 09:05 PM
how much proviron do you recommend? i've read up on it and it sounds great but i've just never used it. and another question. what's a "suicidal" inhibitor? referring to Repos post about aromisan.

D-Lats
06-08-2011, 09:21 PM
Proviron works best from 25 to 50 mg a day in my experience. A suicidal inhibitor means it completely eliminatrs the eatrogen unlike a blocker which can still let some circulating eatrogen connect with the receptor.

strategos14
06-09-2011, 05:57 AM
next order? proviron!! thanks for the info fellas. much appreciated.

strategos14
08-05-2011, 02:27 PM
update: it was just a transition thing. as soon as the test e started flowing, i could tell and was back to normal. however i still ordered proviron and at just two a day, can tell a difference. also ordered some viagra. mainly for my uncle but i kept a couple for the hell of it and tested one out last week. Z's viagra is the real deal holyfield. lol my girl told me a day later that her lower body was still numb.

jbzjacked
08-05-2011, 05:21 PM
dont take this the wrong way. but try this: go to youporn.com and start looking at videos without any thought of desire in your mind and dont touch your prick and dont try to make yourself turned on. just watch the video as it goes. if u dont get aroused after watching a few anal scens/cock sucking scenes then something is wrong. basically, i think that all that test requires more of a turn on, or more test = more arousal needed.

lol.. :jerkit: hot shot

OMEGAx
08-05-2011, 05:23 PM
update: it was just a transition thing. as soon as the test e started flowing, i could tell and was back to normal. however i still ordered proviron and at just two a day, can tell a difference. also ordered some viagra. mainly for my uncle but i kept a couple for the hell of it and tested one out last week. Z's viagra is the real deal holyfield. lol my girl told me a day later that her lower body was still numb.

i was just going to say that, at least 4 weeks it would take

BigMuffin
08-05-2011, 11:26 PM
I have had the same thing happen to me. It just seemed to come and go sometimes but my Doc said it could be from stress or Jedi Mind Tricks lol.

Hazardous SOB
08-15-2011, 10:25 PM
if you have to do this ever again you might want to try bridging with some HCG that makes you an animal while you are on it, at least it does me.

vannesb
08-16-2011, 08:28 AM
Something else to keep in mind - if your estrogen levels get too high - your libido will go down.

Most likely, it's the time lag in esters from sustanon to enanthate.

However, just keep your estrogen in check as well - if this does become a problem an AI such as Aromasin will help with estrogen very quickly.

This is a great question as it's one of the many sneaky misconceptions that screw the mind into thinking gear is or isn't working. :nail:

Can your estrogen level be to low? Last Blood work I had shows mine at 12

OldSchoolLifter
08-16-2011, 09:22 AM
Can your estrogen level be to low? Last Blood work I had shows mine at 12


12 is a perfect number, you have you E2 under control for sure, I like to stay between 12-16 on cycle.

vannesb
08-16-2011, 09:52 AM
Sweet!

Tug boater
11-27-2011, 02:54 PM
Hey fellas I'm on my second. Cycle of sust 250 a buddy gave a 20ml bottle of test e I'm already doing 500mg a week of sust what would be the Best way to start with the test e stupid question but just new and wanting sum great info tks sorry for butting in here

strategos14
11-27-2011, 08:02 PM
this thread is months old lol so no butting it. anyway, i did the exact same thing your are looking to do. i just went right into it after my last pin of sust. your test levels might be weird for a week or two but you will be fine. the only thing i noticed was that my libido dropped until the long acting ester of the test e kicked in and i had less acne then when using the sust

Tug boater
11-29-2011, 01:36 AM
Thanks man I been trying to do all the research I can still not taking any anti esters only side effects so far is acne on back and shoulders the doc has me on some sulfur pills and body wash thanks again buddy

strategos14
11-29-2011, 11:18 AM
yeah I think I was running like 400mg sust then switched to 400mg test e. and like i said, only sides were a bit of acne with the sust and a libido drop during the switch. and for me, being on test e just didn't feel like sust. i don't know why. the esters maybe. i just didn't "feel" the test raging through me as much, whatever that means. but on sust was occasional redness in face and acne on back, which wasn't really so with the test e. libido didn't seem as powerful once the test e started flowing but i didn't suffer in the gym as far as strength or anything. in fact i went from sust and tren to test e and mast/winny and i ended up getting stronger.