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GH Consigliere
02-22-2012, 07:32 AM
Once I stopped used my cycle and use pct protocol but my test crash to 50. now am on trt. They wanted me to use Fortesta gel but ended up with test c 10 mil vail 1 cc a week. :( anyone hand this problem? Is this something I must do for life? Now their testing for igf-1 and my gh why would they test me for them?

charley
02-22-2012, 08:16 AM
Once I stopped used my cycle and use pct protocol but my test crash to 50. now am on trt. They wanted me to use Fortesta gel but ended up with test c 10 mil vail 1 cc a week. :( anyone hand this problem? Is this something I must do for life? Now their testing for igf-1 and my gh why would they test me for them?

If you get bloodwork done a month after a cycle, your test levels will be freakin' low, because your body is not producing test yet.....and why not let them test for igf or hgh....maybe they will write for you,you know ,give you some.

independent
02-22-2012, 09:00 AM
Maybe you should do a proper pct and give it some time. You have been hitting the gear pretty hard.

GH Consigliere
02-22-2012, 09:33 AM
Would my tests level affect my hgh or igf-1 in anyway?

blergs.
02-22-2012, 10:23 AM
Once I stopped used my cycle and use pct protocol but my test crash to 50. now am on trt. They wanted me to use Fortesta gel but ended up with test c 10 mil vail 1 cc a week. :( anyone hand this problem? Is this something I must do for life? Now their testing for igf-1 and my gh why would they test me for them?

this is all messed up, if you have loe T levels from cycle , WAIT a few mor emonths and see if you recover, if not then yes thats for life ot be on hrt. 1 shot a week is nto bad compared to how shitty you will feel wihtout a healthy T level.

you probibly have low T level to begin with if your not recovering. but iof you go on hry now you will NEVER recover.

I rec trying this following and getting tested again 1-2 months after its finished:

wk1-5 HCG 500iu 2X a week (every 3-4 days)
wk3-6 clomid 50mg ed
then stay of every thing for 1-2 months and get retested. if you still have low T you may need HTR for life.

blergs.
02-22-2012, 10:24 AM
Would my tests level affect my hgh or igf-1 in anyway?
yes they could. but they also coudl not, it depends on alot of stuff. but they are not DIRECLY related, no.

independent
02-22-2012, 10:27 AM
this is all messed up, if you have loe T levels from cycle , WAIT a few mor emonths and see if you recover, if not then yes thats for life ot be on hrt. 1 shot a week is nto bad compared to how shitty you will feel wihtout a healthy T level.

you probibly have low T level to begin with if your not recovering. but iof you go on hry now you will NEVER recover.

I rec trying this following and getting tested again 1-2 months after its finished:

wk1-5 HCG 500iu 2X a week (every 3-4 days)
wk3-6 clomid 50mg ed
then stay of every thing for 1-2 months and get retested. if you still have low T you may need HTR for life.


Arent hcg and clomid at the same time counter productive?

D-Lats
02-22-2012, 10:37 AM
Why would ypu not want trt? Your a juice junkie like the rest of us lol!! Lucky bastard!!

pitbullguy0101
02-22-2012, 11:18 AM
did you tell him you were on gear before? id stock pile the test and wait to see if you recover. if not oh well. how old are you anyway?

GH Consigliere
02-22-2012, 11:35 AM
Yes I did but he said tgat it will take about six months to recover

bulldogz
02-22-2012, 02:59 PM
Damn...that doc was quick to put you on TRT without doin all the appropriate testing...

Yes...TRT is for life...but you should have given yourself more time before you did bloods to check your natural T levels...

BB's Dad
02-23-2012, 03:33 PM
I agree with Bulldogz the great thing about TRT is that the cycle never ends.

Zane
02-27-2012, 08:06 PM
I am on the same reg. I had two dr injects now and one at home.I am dosing 1ml every every 10 days. He said 14he but i was crashing again at 12-13the days. So? I am doing what i feel i should. Also this is my first test cyp. Love it! Want a little more but worried he will flip on blood day I have blood check in 6 weeks. If i run this low amount and excersice/diet. Will i see any results coming into week 6-8?

tommygunz
02-27-2012, 10:50 PM
TRT is the cruise equivalent of a blast n cruise. It's where most long term cycler's eventually end up, when we cause a permanent shut down of our htpa system, pct is not an option for us. Age is an important factor when this occurs as is much more labs. If you are young and can still pct this is a much better option. If you do choose TRT establish your baselines, PSA, lipids, thyroid etc. Prescribed test is a good thing, if it is needed. It's more than just another source. Now you have someone watching you and your behavior. This is a big step.

jagbender
02-28-2012, 11:57 AM
I am 50 will be 51 in april been on TRT for 1 year love it!

bulldogz
02-28-2012, 04:59 PM
I am 50 will be 51 in april been on TRT for 1 year love it!

TRT is the best thing that has happened to me as well thus far :thumb:

GH Consigliere
03-02-2012, 05:26 AM
Well the doctor said fe going to run my trt for six mouths and see if it holds up if not am hit lol. Also the check my gh to see if it was effected

independent
03-02-2012, 08:03 AM
Well the doctor said fe going to run my trt for six mouths and see if it holds up if not am hit lol. Also the check my gh to see if it was effected

I ran this through google translator and still cant figure out what you said.

bulldogz
03-02-2012, 02:42 PM
Well the doctor said fe going to run my trt for six mouths and see if it holds up if not am hit lol. Also the check my gh to see if it was effected


I ran this through google translator and still cant figure out what you said.

So did I... :hmmm:

jasoncohenrn
03-02-2012, 04:52 PM
I am thinking about opening up a HRT wellness clinic in New Mexico in a couple of years what do you guys think good idea or bad idea? I will be a Family Nurse Practitioner. So i will be able to prescribe HRT if needed aka blood works shows Low free T

independent
03-02-2012, 07:14 PM
I am thinking about opening up a HRT wellness clinic in New Mexico in a couple of years what do you guys think good idea or bad idea? I will be a Family Nurse Practitioner. So i will be able to prescribe HRT if needed aka blood works shows Low free T

I think you will be a millionare.

dave 236
03-02-2012, 08:24 PM
testosterone can directly effect igf levels. Do not confuse these things, all homones relate to one another
Its called the edocrine system.

GH Consigliere
03-02-2012, 10:15 PM
testosterone can directly effect igf levels. Do not confuse these things, all homones relate to one another
Its called the edocrine system.

You see I never knew that. My Doc started to do blood work to see how's my gh. And to see if theirs any problems their. Can a doctor give gh ?

GH Consigliere
03-02-2012, 10:18 PM
I ran this through google translator and still cant figure out what you said.

Sorry about that! traveling state to state and only have a iPhone to type with. Sucks.

charley
03-03-2012, 02:19 PM
You see I never knew that. My Doc started to do blood work to see how's my gh. And to see if theirs any problems their. Can a doctor give gh ?

....yea........doctors can give you hgh......but most won't..:thinking:

supperfly1977
03-17-2012, 12:58 AM
....yea........doctors can give you hgh......but most won't..:thinking:

No you’re wrong on that in the HRT world the HGH is given more easily then Testosterone we can only give a script of test for three months and if your levers are really low they can go up 500MG a week. But with the HGH you can get as much as you want the more you buy the cheaper it gets for instance Tev-Tropin is 225 a kit but if they get more than ten kits I can drop it down to 200 a kit!

Calves of Steel
03-17-2012, 03:52 PM
Chino...what did the last few weeks of ur cycle look like and when did u start PCT? Consider this, if u take 100mg of deca with a half life of 14 days, wait 2 weeks, there's still 50mg of deca there. Say your body aims to make the equivalent of 100mg of estered test a week, and lets just say hypothetically that deca is equally suppressive to test, your body will not produce more than 50mg that week, because 50mg of androgen is already being leeched in from the deca depot. Say your last shot of deca was 400mg, it will take u 6 weeks to get to the point where your depot is down to 50mg, and at that point your body is in the same situation, only producing 50mg of test. (hypothetically if deca is equally suppressive to test). Before starting PCT, sometimes we have to give the long esters months to clear after the last shot. If you really don't want to go on TRT then think back to the last few weeks of your cycle and calculate how much gear is left in u and whether or not you should repeat PCT. And if u do go with TRT, you can do 1 little subq shot of .5cc of test a week. There are a lot of threads about people doing subq TRT and getting high-normal levels from 1 little shot a week, particularly in canada. Either way man, don't worry!