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SFW
03-03-2012, 08:35 AM
Which is a bigger factor for dosing protocol?

independent
03-03-2012, 08:49 AM
I think neither. I think its based on metabolism.

heavyiron
03-03-2012, 10:54 AM
How TRT makes you feel/respond.

Docs will sometimes take you above the reference range if that dose makes you feel better. I tell my doc after years of use I feel best at slightly higher doses. (Libido, energy, mood, etc).

SFW
03-04-2012, 04:04 AM
So it should be treated dynamically and based on how we feel, i agree. Seems to be this frozen protocol of 250 wk or less, or else youre just blasting/cycling.

I barely feel anything with 250 anymore. Medically, would a doc ever want a guy to go over 300 wk?

independent
03-04-2012, 07:39 AM
So it should be treated dynamically and based on how we feel, i agree. Seems to be this frozen protocol of 250 wk or less, or else youre just blasting/cycling.

I barely feel anything with 250 anymore. Medically, would a doc ever want a guy to go over 300 wk?

Agree. I think in cases where theres heavy use prior to crusing there has to be some desensitization I would assume. At 250 a week you probably have test levels in the normal range but its not what youre used to. Its like training natural. You would have to find a trt clinic if you wanted a dosage higher than 200mgs, unless you have a liberal doctor.

brazey
03-04-2012, 10:05 AM
Most docs will go with a protocol of 100-200 mgs per week. They also use bloods more than feel. So if you can find a doc that will actually listen to you and dose by symptoms you are very lucky. Trt is designed to bring us to normal ranges.

dave 236
03-04-2012, 05:52 PM
^^^ this is true more times than not. The problem is that normalis subjective. The dynamics/feel route is better within reaon. No doctor is likely tocross the 300 mark ever. Tooo much worry about the perception from pharmacies and other docs. Sucks but true.

bulldogz
03-05-2012, 02:52 PM
300mg per wk is a mild cycle at that point :thinking:

I also believe that TRT is dependent on some underlying health issues

independent
03-05-2012, 02:54 PM
300mg per wk is a mild cycle at that point :thinking:

I also believe that TRT is depenant on some underlying health issues

Exactly. that what Im bumping it to soon, with a litlle deca thrown in and maybe some winstrol before summer.:daydream:

blergs.
03-05-2012, 02:56 PM
Which is a bigger factor for dosing protocol?
NETHER

It depends on how the body process is, which can vary from person to person.

GFR
03-05-2012, 03:32 PM
50mg-200mg EW is TRT, over 200mg EW is a cycle.

bulldogz
03-05-2012, 03:40 PM
Exactly. that what Im bumping it to soon, with a litlle deca thrown in and maybe some winstrol before summer.:daydream:

I am currently on a blast of 600mg of test per wk for 10-12wks...

But was thinking of throwing in some npp and winny myself towards the end :thumb:

heavyiron
03-05-2012, 04:18 PM
So it should be treated dynamically and based on how we feel, i agree. Seems to be this frozen protocol of 250 wk or less, or else youre just blasting/cycling.

I barely feel anything with 250 anymore. Medically, would a doc ever want a guy to go over 300 wk?
I have seen docs do it but they were grey area anti-aging docs.

I have a legit Urologist/HRT specialist that has no problem with 200mg weekly though.

blergs.
03-06-2012, 08:03 AM
50mg-200mg EW is TRT, over 200mg EW is a cycle.

there are some rarer cases where more is acually needed due to abnormalitys like super high SHBG and/or other things. but id say for 90% of the people out there this is probibly the case above. :-)

blergs.
03-06-2012, 08:06 AM
And DAM YOU and that pizza!! good thing im still bulking for 6 more weeks! :-P

Glycomann
03-06-2012, 08:35 AM
So it should be treated dynamically and based on how we feel, i agree. Seems to be this frozen protocol of 250 wk or less, or else youre just blasting/cycling.

I barely feel anything with 250 anymore. Medically, would a doc ever want a guy to go over 300 wk?

After you go off for a while 250 a week feel great again. Your body has acclimated to your higher weekly dosage, Believe me, you go off for a few months and the body resets.

blergs.
03-06-2012, 08:44 AM
After you go off for a while 250 a week feel great again. Your body has acclimated to your higher weekly dosage, Believe me, you go off for a few months and the body resets.

due to the rise in SHBG and other binding protiens.
thats why some people think receptors need to be "cleaned" or what every else BS out there.
even if you dont care about health and only gains even then, taking time off or doing to HRT every once in a while is good.

BFHammer
03-09-2012, 07:12 AM
Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men (http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172/T2.expansion.html)

I'm hitting my doc up with this study today(Thanks HeavyIron). If it take 300/week just to get 671 in a healthy male I'd say he needs to put me at 4-600 with me being old and fat!

supperfly1977
03-20-2012, 09:19 AM
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all the on line ones will i get 500 a week! and only do labs once a year.

supperfly1977
03-20-2012, 09:33 AM
all the places i have worked for is 30 or over and no canancer and they are good to go! along with labs and general physical.
it was even better like 8 months ago before

Treasure Coast Pharmacy Raided by Drug Enforcement Agency (http://www.steroids.info/2011/06/29/treasure-coast-pharmacy-raided-by-drug-enforcement-agency/)

got busted back then you could get a year supply but there always someone who has to ruin it for every one else!