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juiceball44
04-13-2012, 09:28 AM
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already contacted my source of the arimidex tabs and im not happy

pars gear is g2g :clapping:

vicious 13
04-13-2012, 09:35 AM
I'd b pissed too get on formeron

heavyiron
04-13-2012, 09:37 AM
What ester? How long from inject was the draw? Dose? Without more info we cannot make a determination brother.

Thanks

bigbenj
04-13-2012, 09:37 AM
holy fuck, thats some high test, baby girl!!!!

Regardless of dose, I would say that test is legit. That number is through the roof.

juiceball44
04-13-2012, 09:43 AM
For the test im on, its a mix of pars 100mg/ml test prop .5ml eod and pars t300 test e .5ml eod roughly 700mg a week

shot about 12 hours before the draw and than also fasted for 12 hours. took 75mcg t3 and 1 mg arimidex 2 hours before the draw also

gixxermaniak
04-13-2012, 09:45 AM
Who's adex

Vibrant
04-13-2012, 09:46 AM
Damnnnnnn!!!

That's some high numbers for test.

heavyiron
04-13-2012, 09:46 AM
For the test im on, its a mix of pars 100mg/ml test prop .5ml eod and pars t300 test e .5ml eod roughly 700mg a week

shot about 12 hours before the draw and than also fasted for 12 hours. took 75mcg t3 and 1 mg arimidex 2 hours before the draw also

Bummer, should have followed the standard protocol.

Your results prove Pars gear has testosterone in it.

juiceball44
04-13-2012, 09:55 AM
Who's adex

ipd, a domestic source on here

bigbenj
04-13-2012, 09:56 AM
There is no way you can deny this.
The number is astronomical.
I'm not the expert here, but, I think this more than proves Pars gear has "some test in it".

hoyle21
04-13-2012, 10:05 AM
There is no way you can deny this.
The number is astronomical.
I'm not the expert here, but, I think this more than proves Pars gear has "some test in it".

It's a matter of following the standard though. The only way to get an apples to apples comparison is if everyone follows the same protocol.

heavyiron
04-13-2012, 10:05 AM
There is no way you can deny this.
The number is astronomical.
I'm not the expert here, but, I think this more than proves Pars gear has "some test in it".

The number is fine if we had something to compare it to but we do not. I have seen higher and lower. Unfortunately 12 hours after a pin T levels are SKY high. We have put into place a standard protocol so apple to apple comparisons can be made. From an objective scientific standpoint the findings are as follows; Pars gear has testosterone in it.

Please check out the sticky that outlines a protocol that has a standard outcome that is supported in the literature. Keep in mind blood work is NOT an exact science. Blood work is a crude method but without a standard protocol a crude method becomes a useless method.

bigbenj
04-13-2012, 10:10 AM
I understand that completely, and, I agree.
Something about this section just doesn't sit well with me.
I feel like some sources are favored over others.
Just my $.02.

hoyle21
04-13-2012, 10:15 AM
I understand that completely, and, I agree.
Something about this section just doesn't sit well with me.
I feel like some sources are favored over others.
Just my $.02.

It's an outrageously high number for sure. Just wish it could be compared apples to apples

juiceball44
04-13-2012, 10:20 AM
The number is fine if we had something to compare it to but we do not. I have seen higher and lower. Unfortunately 12 hours after a pin T levels are SKY high. We have put into place a standard protocol so apple to apple comparisons can be made. From an objective scientific standpoint the findings are as follows; Pars gear has testosterone in it.

Please check out the sticky that outlines a protocol that has a standard outcome that is supported in the literature. Keep in mind blood work is NOT an exact science. Blood work is a crude method but without a standard protocol a crude method becomes a useless method.

I was not aware of it but now I am so I will follow it for the next 4 weeks and also find a new adex source to be retested to make sure e2 is in check

heavyiron
04-13-2012, 10:22 AM
I understand that completely, and, I agree.
Something about this section just doesn't sit well with me.
I feel like some sources are favored over others.
Just my $.02.

We want this section to be more science orientated. Observation and reproduction of standard protocols. If you guys would simply follow the outlined protocols we can make fair comparisons. Using multiple esters and ancillaries skew results. Measuring at different time intervals grossly skew results. I'm glad guys are getting labs because it gives us some info but following protocol will be much more helpful for everyone. It isn't my intent to take the wind out of your sails but to rather create an objective environment.

hoyle21
04-13-2012, 10:30 AM
Heavy- Why not post a sticky for testing guidelines for Test Prop? Lots of guys here prefer it over cyp and test e.

As long as the dosage and timeline from last inject is the same we will get an accurate comparison.

MULCH63
04-13-2012, 10:46 AM
ipd, a domestic source on here

was it generic or Pharm grade.......

juiceball44
04-13-2012, 10:52 AM
was it generic or Pharm grade.......

from idp list... BD Arimidex 1mg Tabs

gixxermaniak
04-13-2012, 11:00 AM
ipd, a domestic source on here

I was going to order my AI. and pct from them to

juiceball44
04-13-2012, 11:07 AM
I also have their "human grade" hcg and nolva and clomid "human grade" tabs that come in blister packs of 10

dunno if im going to use them or not, really disappointed....

heavyiron
04-13-2012, 11:57 AM
I was not aware of it but now I am so I will follow it for the next 4 weeks and also find a new adex source to be retested to make sure e2 is in check

No problem. I would love to see your results.

JMedic79
04-13-2012, 12:15 PM
from idp list... BD Arimidex 1mg Tabs

i just ordered that exact thing a few days ago. this pisses me off. you know how hard it is to get gear to this side of the world?

juiceball44
04-13-2012, 12:39 PM
Ya the worst part of it is I just took a new picture for my dl today and I look bloated as a mother fucker, oh well maybe the next one in year 2020 will be better

Runner22
04-13-2012, 03:42 PM
juiceball - what lab did the testing? I normally get a req from Healthcheckusa and the labs done by Labcorp, but they cap the test levels at 1500.

juiceball44
04-13-2012, 04:45 PM
Privatemdlabs

Menopause 2012 hormone blood test

Drawn at labcorp, results 24. Hours later

biggie10
04-13-2012, 06:24 PM
How long have you been on the arimidex?

tommygunz
04-13-2012, 07:00 PM
I understand that completely, and, I agree.
Something about this section just doesn't sit well with me.
I feel like some sources are favored over others.
Just my $.02.

Bump

juiceball44
04-13-2012, 07:49 PM
How long have you been on the arimidex?

more than 2 weeks maybe 20 days

Runner22
04-13-2012, 07:51 PM
Thanks for the info! Does the lab requisition form actually say menopause on it? LMAO...I'm sure I'll be getting some strange looks the next time I test.


Privatemdlabs

Menopause 2012 hormone blood test

Drawn at labcorp, results 24. Hours later

heavyiron
04-13-2012, 07:54 PM
Thanks for the info! Does the lab requisition form actually say menopause on it? LMAO...I'm sure I'll be getting some strange looks the next time I test.

No, when you check out you must mark male. All the lab tech sees are the individual labs.

juiceball44
04-13-2012, 07:54 PM
Thanks for the info! Does the lab requisition form actually say menopause on it? LMAO...I'm sure I'll be getting some strange looks the next time I test.

lol no it doesn't but I was thinking the same thing. It just shows the 6 things to test for



http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/images/bullet_blue.gif Estradiol, Serum

http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/images/bullet_blue.gif Luteinizing Hormone (LH)


http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/images/bullet_blue.gif Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH)
http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/images/bullet_blue.gif Testosterone, Serum


http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/images/bullet_blue.gif Complete Blood Count (CBC)
http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/images/bullet_blue.gif Comprehensive Metabolic Profile

tommygunz
04-13-2012, 07:59 PM
I buy female hormone test, it's under $50 with the online coupon and it returns actual #'s not a 1500 cap. Not everyone has the same luck with the #'s, it seems to vary by location.

Runner22
04-13-2012, 08:19 PM
Good to know...thank you!

suprfast
04-13-2012, 08:42 PM
Very nice Juice

rubberring
04-14-2012, 11:13 AM
already contacted my source of the arimidex tabs and im not happy

What was IPD's response?

Him123
04-14-2012, 11:38 AM
Are those test numbers or the distance from the earth to the sun! LMAO wow. I'm glad to see bros are really getting serious about testing. Whether it be to substantiate the quality of the gear and or more importantly check up on yourself. Please out the spon of that bunk aridex. Think about it it if its not what they said it was what is it? They could be selling anything that can make bros sick. Keep up the good work with the lab testing.

juiceball44
04-14-2012, 05:43 PM
What was IPD's response?

They said they would credit me for the tabs on my next order, which is worthless to me be there won't be a next order

bulldogz
04-14-2012, 05:53 PM
Privatemdlabs

Menopause 2012 hormone blood test

Drawn at labcorp, results 24. Hours later

Finally found how to break the ">1500" barrier...good look bro! :thumb:


Thanks for the info! Does the lab requisition form actually say menopause on it? LMAO...I'm sure I'll be getting some strange looks the next time I test.

I hear ya, but who care what they think...

bulldogz
04-14-2012, 06:00 PM
I buy female hormone test, it's under $50 with the online coupon and it returns actual #'s not a 1500 cap. Not everyone has the same luck with the #'s, it seems to vary by location.

So I guess the question should be if juiceball had previously bought the "hormone panel for female" and was it also capped at ">1500"

And this is why he went with the Menopause 2012 test instead.... :thinking:

juiceball44
04-14-2012, 06:02 PM
first time getting blood work, was directed to get the menopause test as per heavy's instructions. maybe he knows for sure

MULCH63
04-14-2012, 06:12 PM
I can't believe the epidemic of bunk AI.... This concerns me. Sure bunk gear sucks BUT bunk AI can cause some real issues.

exphys88
04-15-2012, 03:36 PM
I can't believe the epidemic of bunk AI.... This concerns me. Sure bunk gear sucks BUT bunk AI can cause some real issues.

No shit. I'd rather get bunk gear than bunk AI. I always keep at least 2 different brands of AI on hand.

Kirk B
04-15-2012, 04:01 PM
i wait 4 weeks to start my ai as i run d bol weeks 1 to 4 then long esters like cyp or E i def had good ones before adex i have some left not enough i got clomid tho can i run that @ a low dose or is that just used for a pct sorry to jump in on this bit I thought the question fit in here

colochine
04-15-2012, 05:53 PM
i wait 4 weeks to start my ai as i run d bol weeks 1 to 4 then long esters like cyp or E i def had good ones before adex i have some left not enough i got clomid tho can i run that @ a low dose or is that just used for a pct sorry to jump in on this bit I thought the question fit in here

Clomid is a serm not an AI, use for PCT, get an AI for on cycle.

rubberring
04-16-2012, 04:17 PM
Thought IPD would reply within this thread... but here you go:


OK here is the issue with his test, he never ran a base test before starting and he only used the Adex for a short time...it doesn't magically pull all estrogen out of system it takes a few weeks. First off, even with estrogen totally suppressed (which you wouldn't want to do anyway) you will still hold water if your diet aint great and loaded with simple sugars / sodium. But most probably know that. Arimidex gets to work straight away in the respect that it interferes with the aromatase enzyme straight away, and starts to slow the conversion of Testosterone to Estrogen. But you still have the already formed estrogen floating around, and the Arimidex does nothing to counter this. You need to wait until this is metabolised out naturally, and that can take a couple of weeks.

msumuscle
04-16-2012, 04:25 PM
Thought IPD would reply within this thread... but here you go:

Why can't they just take responsibility, it's obviously bunk as dick!

bulldogz
04-16-2012, 05:41 PM
We gotta get more bloods on AI as well...

I'll be doin a run of Natco Xtane in about a 3wks from now

I would also like to test Kalpa Pharmaceuticals and Balkan Pharmaceuticals version of Exemestane.. :thinking:

dirtbiker666
04-16-2012, 08:20 PM
Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn i just got some adex from then god dammit...Would it be messed up to make a new thread Under this sponsor linked to this thread ? And on that note can one of you guys PM me possibly to help me find some that is not bunk pleaaaase ?

juiceball44
04-16-2012, 08:43 PM
I think I'm going with purchase peptides (sponser on here) to try their adex which is priced pretty good and than get blood work again to see whats up

I'm not out to bash anyone I was very happy with the service and fast shipping from ipd and the hcg, nolva and clomid all seems to be legit human grade. Hcg came sealed in box w/paper work and tabs came in blister packs looks like legit pharma grade. I am also taking the halo preworkout and it seems legit (1st time using)

I will not hesitate to post results, good or bad, about any products out there, just want people to know the truth. I was taking the adex for exactly 14 days, is that long enough for it to make an effect on e2, honestly I don't know maybe someone can chime in that knows. All I know is I was taking 1mg a day which is double or more of what people recommend to take and my e2 was still sky high

suprfast
05-11-2012, 09:56 PM
Any update Juice?

dutchmaster454
05-12-2012, 05:03 AM
i had my blood work done running pars gear and KALPA aromasin the other week. my test levels were capped at >1500 even though i got the menopause 2012 panel :( and my estrogen was slightly elevated, nothing to be concerned about though, only about 10 points above normal. i was told that since i was running a gram of test, 50mg dbol, and 400npp that those estrogen levels were normal for on cycle. so kalpa Ais are gtg. because im sure running a gram of pars gear is really like running 1300, and if the Ai was bunk id have me a set of boobies :0

juiceball44
05-12-2012, 05:30 AM
Any update Juice?

going to be some updates coming in the next week or so. so far I can say purchase peptides research chems are g2g but will have some lab work to prove it soon

malfeasance
05-12-2012, 05:36 AM
my estrogen was slightly elevated, nothing to be concerned about though, only about 10 points above normal. i was told that since i was running a gram of test, 50mg dbol, and 400npp that those estrogen levels were normal for on cycle. so kalpa Ais are gtg. because im sure running a gram of pars gear is really like running 1300, and if the Ai was bunk id have me a set of boobies :0
Can't you just up the AI a little to bring estrogen in line? I thought that was the purpose of blood tests - to dial in your dosages.