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exphys88
04-16-2012, 03:48 PM
I've received my testing materials and will begin testing in 5 days. I will be testing the z-labs test cyp 200 with a weekly dosage of 300 mg. I have been cruising on 250 mg of test e, so I'll start my z-labs cyp 7 days after my last cruise shot. Here are the dates:

First pin 4/20
Second pin 4/27
blood draw 5/4

vannesb
04-16-2012, 06:10 PM
I've received my testing materials and will begin testing in 5 days. I will be testing the z-labs test cyp 200 with a weekly dosage of 300 mg. I have been cruising on 250 mg of test e, so I'll start my z-labs cyp 7 days after my last cruise shot. Here are the dates:

First pin 4/20
Second pin 4/27
blood draw 5/4

Look forward to results

OfficerFarva
04-16-2012, 08:41 PM
I highly doubt they'd send bunk gear to a mod who acknowledged he'd be testing and posting the results :lol:



Let's see what you get though, it'll give me a bit more confidence. I have a cycles worth of Z's prop and NPP in my stash.

juiceball44
04-16-2012, 09:04 PM
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/lab-testing/159656-how-test-testosterone-cypionate-enanthate.html



(http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/lab-testing/159656-how-test-testosterone-cypionate-enanthate.html)The following protocols must be followed exactly for at least 4 weeks. No other gear or ancillaries may be used during the first 4 weeks. If you have been on either dose for longer than 4 weeks you may get labs 7 days after your last injection.

All injections must be intramuscular (IM). The first week is a front-load.

Testing Protocol-(for labs that only range up to 1,500ng/dl)

Day 1. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 3. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 7. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 14. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 21. 300mg Cypionate OR Enanthate
Day 28. Total Testosterone Blood Draw (must be exactly 7 days after last inject)

Post lab results once you receive them. Please be specific about the dose, ester and protocol you used in your first post.

Passing results should be about 1,345 ng/dl ± 139 ng/dl.

SwollenMonkey
04-16-2012, 09:37 PM
keep us updated. i used uncle z test so i know its good. but its always good to have blood tests to prove it

"TheFuture"
04-16-2012, 11:27 PM
Nice! Looking forward tho the results.

Grozny
04-17-2012, 03:24 AM
its should be g2g never heard any complains about z aas line.

vannesb
04-17-2012, 07:32 AM
I highly doubt they'd send bunk gear to a mod who acknowledged he'd be testing and posting the results :lol:



Let's see what you get though, it'll give me a bit more confidence. I have a cycles worth of Z's prop and NPP in my stash.

Maybe they can come up with a protocol for Prop and test your stash.

OfficerFarva
04-17-2012, 09:25 AM
Maybe they can come up with a protocol for Prop and test your stash.

If it gets me some free Z gear and nudes from Heavy I'll do it. No homo.

vannesb
04-17-2012, 10:23 AM
If it gets me some free Z gear and nudes from Heavy I'll do it. No homo.


LOL! Damm I dont want any nudes of Heavy for damm sure!

vicious 13
05-03-2012, 05:59 PM
Draw tomorrow

exphys88
05-03-2012, 07:06 PM
Yep, tomorrow I drive 6 hours round trip to test gear.

vicious 13
05-03-2012, 07:15 PM
It's worth it think of all the bros that want to see this I know I do my draw is next Thursday and I'm running gear I purchased not test pack so none of that of course they wouldn't send bunk test gear

exphys88
05-05-2012, 03:00 PM
results are in. total test of 972 while on 300 mg of Z's test Cyp. Testosterone studies suggest that I should've been closer to 1200 on 300 mg. I did not run an AI or any HCG.

heavyiron
05-05-2012, 03:26 PM
I understand that this is a crude calculation but that would put the Cyp at about 80% of proper dosing.

exphys88
05-05-2012, 03:31 PM
I'm curious to see the rest of the results. levels should be 1200-1500 while on 300 mg.

independent
05-05-2012, 06:38 PM
I highly doubt they'd send bunk gear to a mod who acknowledged he'd be testing and posting the results :lol:



Kind of looks like they did, lol. Looks underdosed. My test levels are higher then that on a 150mgs of script test.

hoyle21
05-05-2012, 06:40 PM
And it is surprising. I should have had my results back from 200 mgs Watson test cyp. I'll post soon as I see them.

heavyiron
05-05-2012, 06:42 PM
In my experience Z has never sent out special batches. It is what it is for everyone.

exphys88
05-05-2012, 06:54 PM
300 mg/week should yield levels between 1200-1500 at 7 days after last pin. Running an AI and/or hcg will give much higher levels too, so you can't compare scores when someone is running either of those.

vicious 13
05-05-2012, 07:07 PM
My draw is thursday haven't run any ai or hcg and again mine wasn't the "test gear"

exphys88
05-05-2012, 07:09 PM
I'm looking forward to more, as I didn't do the exact protocol because I was already cruising.

independent
05-05-2012, 07:09 PM
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/lab-testing/158702-pfizer-depo-testosterone-labs.html#post2747617

This was pre-hcg and ai.

hoyle21
05-05-2012, 07:10 PM
Exphys- what were you cruising on?

Edit: Dr prescribed or more UGL is what I mean.

exphys88
05-05-2012, 07:13 PM
I was cruising on dp test e 250. I had some labs done while cruising and was 1100 at day 5.

exphys88
05-05-2012, 07:15 PM
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/lab-testing/158702-pfizer-depo-testosterone-labs.html#post2747617

This was pre-hcg and ai.

That's interesting because the study that the protocol is based off of, the participants on 300 mg/week had levels of 1350 +/- 150 at day 7. Approximately.

hoyle21
05-05-2012, 07:17 PM
BigMoes is quite a bit higher with half the dosage.

What study have these reference numbers been pulled from?

exphys88
05-05-2012, 07:17 PM
I'm on my phone, but I'll post it up later.

exphys88
05-05-2012, 07:20 PM
Here it is:
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.long

independent
05-05-2012, 07:21 PM
That's interesting because the study that the protocol is based off of, the participants on 300 mg/week had levels of 1350 +/- 150 at day 7. Approximately.

In all fairness people do respond to drugs differently. Its not a one size fits all scenerio.

exphys88
05-05-2012, 07:23 PM
Definitely, I'm going to wait for more results. There are a lot of guys testing.

vannesb
05-05-2012, 09:06 PM
Kind of looks like they did, lol. Looks underdosed. My test levels are higher then that on a 150mgs of script test.

I am on HRT script Pharm grade and can tell you I cruise on 250mg EW and I am around 900. Considering the normal HRT is typically not over 200mg NO Doctor wants to see labs over 1000 throws a red flag up.

If you are over 1000 on 150mg that is amazing! Pharm grade is Pharm grade. However, no one agrees with me but your base line has to play a part in it and everybody reacts different. Just my 2 cents

gamma
05-06-2012, 05:31 AM
I am on HRT script Pharm grade and can tell you I cruise on 250mg EW and I am around 900. Considering the normal HRT is typically not over 200mg NO Doctor wants to see labs over 1000 throws a red flag up.

If you are over 1000 on 150mg that is amazing! Pharm grade is Pharm grade. However, no one agrees with me but your base line has to play a part in it and everybody reacts different. Just my 2 cents

I think yeah hit the nail on the head vannesb...
Lets say it is slightly under dose , really I am ok with 80-85% for that price .

hoyle21
05-06-2012, 05:34 AM
Looks like you're working hard to justify those results.

OTG85
05-06-2012, 06:24 AM
Looks like you're working hard to justify those results.
Coming from the guy in my avi

SuperLift
05-06-2012, 07:01 AM
either way - 300mg/wk should yield higher than 900.

vicious 13
05-06-2012, 07:23 AM
Thursday is my draw and my base level labs r either in z section or lab section somewhere I'll post both results when I get them but at least well have an idea of what base level plays

girpy
05-06-2012, 09:01 AM
I was cruising on dp test e 250. I had some labs done while cruising and was 1100 at day 5.

how much of the DP were you on per week when you had the 1100?

exphys88
05-06-2012, 09:09 AM
250 Mgs 5 days before test

rage racing
05-06-2012, 01:01 PM
So I guess its slightly underdosed.....

exphys88
05-06-2012, 01:33 PM
I'm going to refrain from making any conclusive statements until we see more results. But it does seem that that is true.

rage racing
05-06-2012, 04:06 PM
I'm going to refrain from making any conclusive statements until we see more results. But it does seem that that is true.
I will also get tested but it will be a little bit before I run the gear Z sent. I will tell ya this though. I rather have to pin 1.5ml of gear to get a true 250mg of test than pin 1ml of gear that hurts like hell and is "properly dosed".

exphys88
05-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Nobody else has proven that their gear is properly dosed because guys are running large amounts and the tests only go up to 1500.
Just taking 400 mg/week will give results higher than 1500, even 7 days after pinning.

hoyle21
05-06-2012, 04:25 PM
I would say the DP performed at least as well, if not better. There is a two day difference in the test, but less dosage and it came in higher.

parsifal09
05-06-2012, 04:27 PM
I'm sure the z gear is properly dosed,can't make wild assumptions

but all the lab tests done so far only go up to 1500?

hoyle21
05-06-2012, 04:29 PM
The big thing Pars is more info needs to come back. There is a slight variation in how people respond to all medicine.

Most people use a test that only goes to 1500 because it's cheaper. You can get an exact number though.

exphys88
05-06-2012, 04:31 PM
I'm sure the z gear is properly dosed,can't make wild assumptions

but all the lab tests done so far only go up to 1500?

It appears that it is under dosed, based off of this test, but there will be more test results coming in soon to give us more info.
The protocol of 300 mg/week is the only way to measure dosage when the lab only measures up to 1500.

exphys88
05-06-2012, 04:32 PM
The big thing Pars is more info needs to come back. There is a slight variation in how people respond to all medicine.

Most people use a test that only goes to 1500 because it's cheaper. You can get an exact number though.

No, my labcorp will only measure up to 1500, there is no option for more.

parsifal09
05-06-2012, 04:33 PM
no,i agree. cant say something is underdosed from 1 guy,and i wouldnt say that here anyway,as im a sponsor and it would be obvious that i was trying to make another sponsor look bad.

but a few lab tests have been done that show actual amount, not just 1500. that was the only thing I was trying to point out

im sure these guys lab results will come back ok. z has been around a while


pars

hoyle21
05-06-2012, 04:34 PM
And most guys take more than 300 for a cycle so you pretty much have to be cruising with the plan to test the product to make it worth your while.

hoyle21
05-06-2012, 04:35 PM
No, my labcorp will only measure up to 1500, there is no option for more.

My bad, I thought labcorp would go higher.

littlekev
05-06-2012, 05:30 PM
300 mg should yield much greater from my experience i would say this batch is def underdosed

vicious 13
05-06-2012, 05:30 PM
im following exact protocol so im interested to see if there is a difference

littlekev
05-06-2012, 05:32 PM
this is my result at day 5 after a shot of 250mg test e, i had been cruising for a little over a month at 250mg a week.
Component Results

Component
Your Value
Standard Range
Units


Testosterone Total
2072.95
Reference range: 250 to 890
Unit: ng/dL
(Note)
Result confirmed by automatic dilution.
Please note change in reference range(s).

Tanner Stage Male Female
I < 30 ng/dL < 10 ng/dL
II < 150 ng/dL < 30 ng/dL
III 100-320 ng/dL < 35 ng/dL
IV 200-970 ng/dL 15-40 ng/dL
V 250-890 ng/dL 10-70 ng/dL

SloppyJ
05-06-2012, 05:36 PM
This lab testing section is going to be good for some and bad for others. Good test. Thanks exphys.

hoyle21
05-06-2012, 05:37 PM
This lab testing section is going to be good for some and bad for others. Good test. Thanks exphys.

It's great for the board members.

exphys88
05-06-2012, 05:38 PM
this is my result at day 5 after a shot of 250mg test e, i had been cruising for a little over a month at 250mg a week.
Component Results

Component
Your Value
Standard Range
Units


Testosterone Total
2072.95
Reference range: 250 to 890
Unit: ng/dL
(Note)
Result confirmed by automatic dilution.
Please note change in reference range(s).

Tanner Stage Male Female
I &lt; 30 ng/dL &lt; 10 ng/dL
II &lt; 150 ng/dL &lt; 30 ng/dL
III 100-320 ng/dL &lt; 35 ng/dL
IV 200-970 ng/dL 15-40 ng/dL
V 250-890 ng/dL 10-70 ng/dL



What brand?
That's almost 1000 higher than my dp test on the same mg and also 5 days after pin.

littlekev
05-06-2012, 05:40 PM
What brand?
That's almost 1000 higher than my dp test on the same mg and also 5 days after pin.
Will pm you

hoyle21
05-06-2012, 05:44 PM
I would say that's over dosed. Nice though.

vicious 13
05-06-2012, 05:48 PM
why pm i wanna know

hoyle21
05-06-2012, 05:50 PM
Thats really a crazy high number. Good for you though man, you have been screwed over a lot lately. Glad that worked out.

littlekev
05-06-2012, 05:56 PM
meant no offense to Z, also hope ex didnt think i jacked his thread, i simply posted that to show were i believe those dosages should yield , but that is not exact science either, and some have told me that gear is overdosed. The brand name is private i apologize bro's, it is not available on the internet, nor through me so posting brand is not valid either way.

SteroidalGazelle
05-06-2012, 07:06 PM
Will pm you

Please post it here. What is the point of having this section. Would like to know what brand you are using

OTG85
05-06-2012, 08:03 PM
The good thing about z if there was a problem he would fix the problem.I want to see test on the euro pharm gear,because every member who posted labs were sky high,and these guys aren't reps just regular members.Tommy gun even called z out various times then was pozzed when levels came back in the 5,000 range.

vicious 13
05-06-2012, 08:39 PM
My test is on euro pharm

BFHammer
05-07-2012, 11:21 AM
Your really not going to have accuracy without testing pharma first, just like the hgh testing. A 130 lb runt vs a 300 lb sumo are going to have widely varied results with any product. Time of day of the test is huge as well along with things like carbs will drop test 25%. Lots of variable with quasi scientific testing. My stuff is script so I don't have a dog in the hunt here.

exphys88
05-07-2012, 11:33 AM
I will be testing my pharma grade soon using the same protocol. I'm testing omega t400 at the moment though.

vicious 13
05-07-2012, 12:13 PM
I can't see time of day effecting it that much and I think once ur shut down your shut down and whatever dose your at is what dose your at

NoCode8511
05-07-2012, 08:59 PM
Exp - Im running a lab test for the z gear also. Today was my last 300mg shot and the lab test is next monday. Ill post up my results when I get them.

vannesb
05-08-2012, 06:27 AM
Exp - Im running a lab test for the z gear also. Today was my last 300mg shot and the lab test is next monday. Ill post up my results when I get them.

Thanks! Will be interesting to see if your results are the same as Exphys88.

exphys88
05-08-2012, 07:53 AM
Exp - Im running a lab test for the z gear also. Today was my last 300mg shot and the lab test is next monday. Ill post up my results when I get them.

You need to test 7 days later, not 6.

NoCode8511
05-08-2012, 03:38 PM
You need to test 7 days later, not 6.

I pinned yesterday the 7th and test is on the 14th, thats 7 days.

exphys88
05-08-2012, 03:58 PM
I pinned yesterday the 7th and test is on the 14th, thats 7 days.

whoops, I'm retarded, don't listen to me. I thought you pinned today (tuesday). 7+7=14 is always a tough one for me.

OTG85
05-08-2012, 09:41 PM
Can't wait for more results.