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powerclean
05-08-2012, 07:24 AM
The other week i got a blood test done to check for thyroid amongst other things my test levels

here is my test result
Serum testosterone level (XE2dr) 12.5 nmoI/L (9.0-29.0)

i don't understand it, is it telling me I have low? medium? high test?

I'm 21 and have never cycled before ...

powerclean
05-08-2012, 09:09 AM
maybe i need to elaborate, is it quite low of a 21 year old. Despite having a near top diet, sleep 6-8 hours a night etc

rocker44
05-09-2012, 08:22 AM
The other week i got a blood test done to check for thyroid amongst other things my test levels

here is my test result
Serum testosterone level (XE2dr) 12.5 nmoI/L (9.0-29.0)

i don't understand it, is it telling me I have low? medium? high test?

I'm 21 and have never cycled before ...

your post is a little vague can you post the actual results you recieved from the lab ?

powerclean
05-09-2012, 11:15 AM
that's literally the result i got on my sheet for my testosterone level

TonyMack
05-09-2012, 12:37 PM
He's in the UK, and they use nmol/L, to convert to ng/dL, multiply by 28.82 = ~360 in a range of 260-835.

That is definitely not an ideal reading for a 21 yr old.

What should he do? Well... discuss...

brazey
05-09-2012, 12:49 PM
So he's in range but not in the top 3rd where he should be. Not sure about the UK but in the states a doc probably wouldn't help you but a clinic would if you weren't so young.

MuscleGauge1
05-09-2012, 12:57 PM
You should go to the source on this one. Who did the lab test? Ask them for help/support with this. It's the safest way

REDDOG309
05-09-2012, 01:25 PM
Found this trending on yahoo, seems like a lot of good info and some not so good.




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muscleicon
05-09-2012, 01:28 PM
U should ask them to explain it to U. From the results U posted, U are in low range which is strange for your age. A clinic or endrocrinologist could explain it to u and the treatment for it.

powerclean
05-09-2012, 01:49 PM
Well i went to my local GP after i became suspicious i may have low test because I can't put muscle on for shit, despite sacrificing three years of my life, ie no drinking, no going out on my Birthday eating an OCD diet if you like counting macros etc, i gained weight but 95% was fat!

Well I saw my GP today and she said it was in a normal range and no further action was needed. I asked if i could be referred to an endo and she said she had to run it by her boss, she said she will call me tomorrow, but I am not hopeful....

Funny thing is i'm ridiculously, ridiculously hairy, hair every where! An yet my dad or my mums and dad or dads dad were pretty much hairless, kinda strange for someone with relatively low test :/

rocker44
05-09-2012, 10:39 PM
thats normal for an 80 year old lol. i dont know if you have trt clinics there, you might want to look into going to one, or insist that they send you to an endo so you can be checked out

Coop817
05-10-2012, 07:15 AM
Well i went to my local GP after i became suspicious i may have low test because I can't put muscle on for shit, despite sacrificing three years of my life, ie no drinking, no going out on my Birthday eating an OCD diet if you like counting macros etc, i gained weight but 95% was fat!

Well I saw my GP today and she said it was in a normal range and no further action was needed. I asked if i could be referred to an endo and she said she had to run it by her boss, she said she will call me tomorrow, but I am not hopeful....

Funny thing is i'm ridiculously, ridiculously hairy, hair every where! An yet my dad or my mums and dad or dads dad were pretty much hairless, kinda strange for someone with relatively low test :/


maybe you are adopted and they never told you...Or your mom fucked a monkey.

unfortunately, i bet since you are in range, no US doc will put you on TRT.....well maybe an elvis doc...a clinic wont either since you are only 21....????

TonyMack
05-10-2012, 09:11 AM
maybe you are adopted and they never told you...Or your mom fucked a monkey.

unfortunately, i bet since you are in range, no US doc will put you on TRT.....well maybe an elvis doc...a clinic wont either since you are only 21....????

Coop - that's harsh! The kid just wants a better quality of life, give him a break. We all know docs won't treat a 21 yr old with testosterone if his level is "within range", but perhaps he can find another way like a lot of the guys on this board. Lets just say with a level like that at 21, he's going to be on TRT at some point. Just a matter of time.

powerclean
05-10-2012, 09:55 AM
surprise surprise my docs boss said no, although i am seeing him next week to discuss it further. Although i can't get on the NHS (for now) i believe my doctor said to me that she can write a recommendation. I'm seeing her tomorrow so once i get a recommendation, i can private, but thats going to be costly....

TonyMack
05-10-2012, 10:15 AM
surprise surprise my docs boss said no, although i am seeing him next week to discuss it further. Although i can't get on the NHS (for now) i believe my doctor said to me that she can write a recommendation. I'm seeing her tomorrow so once i get a recommendation, i can private, but thats going to be costly....

Dude if you are in the UK all you need to self administer is easy to get, and cheap. Oh, and an ellipses is three dots, not four.

powerclean
05-10-2012, 10:58 AM
Dude if you are in the UK all you need to self administer is easy to get, and cheap. Oh, and an ellipses is three dots, not four.

lol okay, yeah i can self administer but i would rather get stuff knowing the quality is not in question

powerclean
05-10-2012, 11:01 AM
plus my family would have a hard time accepting the concept of me getting gear off a source lol, thats going to a doozer if it comes to that. They know about it now but if the endo says no then there just going to say the doctor knows best.

In all seriousness what age can be test levels be associated with

TonyMack
05-10-2012, 11:13 AM
This might help:

Male Normal Testosterone Levels - Average Ranges by Age in Men | Free Blood Table and Chart (http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/normal-testosterone-levels.html)

powerclean
05-10-2012, 12:33 PM
so I have a test level literally of an 80+ year old lol? is total test the same category score for the result score i posted?

TonyMack
05-10-2012, 12:40 PM
so I have a test level literally of an 80+ year old lol? is total test the same category score for the result score i posted?

Yep. It's important to also look at the range and testing method, which could affect results slightly, but pretty much your test is really low.

The question you should be asking is what do you want to do about it? Going on TRT is a really big decision and has implications. Regardless if your doc is willing to provide testosterone therapy, you should really look into what it means and the level of life-long commitment you'd be making. Best of luck to you.

powerclean
05-10-2012, 03:28 PM
I had gyno removed a few years back but one gland under one nipple was not removed. If i take HCG will this aggravate it even if i take novaldex daily? Also if i was to start TRT at my young age even with HCG, will that increase the likelihood i will not be able to have kids?

TonyMack
05-10-2012, 04:56 PM
You won't want to take nolva daily, but you may need an ai IF you decide to go that route. There's no doubt taking test, even with hcg will decrease your sperm count.

See these are the things I was referring to... there's some real draw backs to taking test and you have to do some research and decide if this is what you want to do for the rest of your life.

Me, I'm 36 and my test levels pre TRT were similar to yours, and it was a good decision for me, but it's a personal choice that has some real and meaningful implications. Take some time and do some reading, there's no need to rush into anything here.