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Kirk B
05-12-2012, 09:38 AM
my dad want hrt his test is low he take viagra to get his shit up and his doc said his levels are normal bullshit so my question is dose meicare pay forhrt plan a and b & he has aapr suplement something but he pays 120$ for 4 viagra pills so if you can help me out what to say to the doc for my dad and he is ove 50 almost 60 and works out very active and got a gut and can't get it up with out thoes pills

so if anyone knows will medicare pay for hrt and also maybe hgh for him or no at least hrt if anyone knows if not he has the $ to get the test filled if it's not a crazy amount and dose anyone know the price from the pharmacy if he can't get his bs insurance to cover it thanks in advance for your help guys

dirtwarrior
05-12-2012, 09:41 AM
I asked the same question and got varied answers.
Depends on plan..call you insurance company and ask

muscleicon
05-12-2012, 12:17 PM
As Dirt said, check with the insurance carrrier and find out if they cover hrt/trt and take it from there. Some companies will and some wont so only thing we can do here is speculate.

charley
05-12-2012, 01:02 PM
Yo Kirk, I'm 62 yrs old, been doing my own trt for almost 15 yrs. Everything I get I buy online, Test is cheap when you buy 10 or 20 at a time, ciales is cheap when you look for sales, I just picked up 120 ciales for 110 bucks. I use 250mgs every 5 days[test e]......and twice a year I increase 600mgs[2or3wks]800mgs[2or3wks]1000mgs[2or3 wks]....then back down to 250mgs every 5 days......I never go to a doctor.....never had my levels done, I go by
how I feel. I have nolvadex & arimidex in case i need it....it helps to be interested and willing to do some research to adjust what is good for you or what works and what doesn't.....

bjg
05-12-2012, 03:45 PM
many doctors don't believe in trt because the lowering of testosterone and gh is a normal aging process and should not be altered, which i believe too.
Sometimes a very low level of test can be helped with some trt or hrt but low levels are not the only criteria and are not by any means the only reason for low sex drive or performance. So if your dad needs viagra , it could be only a psychological reason, it is also normal to go through phases like that, and many times people get addicted mentally to viagra..anyways taking viagra from time to time is way safer and less problematic than going on trt or hrt. his sexual problems must be assessed by a doctor to see the reason behind them , that could be only psychological. Not everything you have is to be blamed on low test, besides his doc said that his levels are normal.

Kirk B
05-12-2012, 04:21 PM
^^^^^ He hasn't had a hard on in years so it's not psychological at all do you agree? and I do believe his test is low yes he is 65 and it has to be low he can't get it up for years and he wants to try it why not he is very active don't look his age and has a little tiny gut he needs to lose 15 to 20lbs in his gut area ... Also I believe there may be some problems from trt also, but what about the benefits from it!!! The weight loss , the muscle gain, the wood he'll get again , again ,again !!!! and lie I said he works out light weight and says very active everyday he has two houses a beach house to so he loves his gardens, he plant's flowers , he takes pride in his house and the appearance of the out side he work's everyday' even tho he is retired he payed his dues so iwas asking if any one knows about medicare and aarp paying for his prescription (http://www.ask.com/web?q=prescription&qsrc=19&o=APN10018cr&l=dis&gct=serp&p2=^A4F^ADK004^YY^US) anyone that can help I will be great-full for anyone who knows thank you for your help in advance bro's Kirk B and the hgh also if not i know velvet bean make your hgh go up crazy high so it don't matter on that but it would be nice to get some legit stuff i'm not ordering with all this fake hgh going around right now thanks again bros

Vibrant
05-12-2012, 04:32 PM
Not sure on the insurance part.

Has your dad tried to go to a trt/hrt clinic?

bjg
05-12-2012, 04:45 PM
Kirk: your dad seems a great guy and deserves the best treatment , so i suggest he goes to the best doctor there is in this field, and i think he can do well on his own he does not need help from this forum.

Vibrant
05-12-2012, 05:12 PM
Kirk: your dad seems a great guy and deserves the best treatment , so i suggest he goes to the best doctor there is in this field, and i think he can do well on his own he does not need help from this forum.

And I think you should not be on this forum if you're against chemically improving your life.

DetMuscle
05-12-2012, 05:25 PM
TRT is cheap. Im 57 and do it on my own. Not sure its worth going through all the trouble of going through medicare. a 10ml vial is $160 from Walgreens or any other store. But, here is the kicker. Normal T levels for a 50 something year old are so low anyway, but they call it normal. Fact is I dont want normal levels of T. I want it high. Much higher for my age. Thats where the the medicare part gets tricky. If its normal for his age, they may not pay for it. What he may need is above normal levels like me andthats where the insurnace may say no. becasue its normal for his age. What is the level the Doc is saying normal?

Ezskanken
05-12-2012, 05:53 PM
Kirk you've been a member since 2010, I'm sure you know the ropes by now and you could have your pops on some t by next week if you really wanted to. Not saying its the best option, but it sounds like you really want to help your pops out...

Curt James
05-12-2012, 06:21 PM
my dad want hrt his test is low he take viagra to get his shit up and his doc said his levels are normal (snip)

See another doctor.


I never go to a doctor.....never had my levels done, I go by how I feel.

Do you ever get blood work done?


are not by any means the only reason for low sex drive or performance. So if your dad needs viagra , it could be only a psychological reason

This in general but clearly not in Kirk's father's case.


he is very active don't look his age and has a little tiny gut he needs to lose 15 to 20lbs in his gut area

Lipo.

But then watch out for man boobs. You might be too young but your father will know who Kenny Rogers (http://kennyrogers.musiccitynetworks.com/) is -- he had lipo but then developed man boobs. No more fat cells in his tummy area, but fat still has to go somewhere!


Kirk: your dad seems a great guy and deserves the best treatment , so i suggest he goes to the best doctor there is in this field, and i think he can do well on his own he does not need help from this forum.

Come on.


What is the level the Doc is saying normal?

Curious about that, too.

Kirk B
05-12-2012, 07:27 PM
Not sure on the insurance part.

Has your dad tried to go to a trt/hrt clinic? no his dumb ass doctor said his test levels are normal witch id bs if e can't get his shit hard in years and years a little cyp 200mg a week or 300 mg would do him real good I think i'm going to help him as much as i can and help him out and go to the doctor with him next time and tell that dumb ass they just get $ to promote cretin medications like wat there giving him to get his shit herd not cialis the other one and insurance doesn't cover that one and i'm going to tell this doctor about him self
watch this shit when he see's me all tatted up and I know more about it then him lol


i'm geting worked up again i asked my dad today when was the last time he woke up with a hard on and he said over 10 years over his been on viagrs foe a long time here and there there old but still do it once in a while down there beach house thanks for all the suport guys and he wont tell my dad what his test levels are so i'm going to go in there with paper printed out and show his ass and he want's hgh too I jsut hope they cover it he plays by the rules he won't get it off of here but I still want to help him he's the best man in the whole worl worked everyday of his life has 2 houses and put 3 kids through collage and 2 daughters weddings and my one sister went to school for 8 years in collage and tought in Japan for 2 years I have a very smart family and he deserves better then getting ripped off 4 pills for 120$ for viagra and the doc knows this shit whata jew bag fuck i'm going next time i'm not racist at all but i i should paint swastikas (http://www.ask.com/web?q=swastikas&qsrc=19&o=APN10018cr&l=dis&gct=serp&p2=^A4F^ADK004^YY^US) on my hand like tats lol

Kirk B
05-12-2012, 07:46 PM
66666i'm just so mad he's such a nice guy and would give anyone the shirt off his back all my friends love him my wife's dad died and on fathers day she said he's her new dad and he's so nice and he danced with her at our wedding not even her mom boyfriend since she was 12 she hates him lol i'm just so pissed at these cock sucking doctors there pieces of shit

Curt James
05-12-2012, 07:57 PM
these cock sucking doctors there pieces of shit

There's gotta be a better doctor out there.

charley
05-13-2012, 10:15 AM
Yo Kirk, it sounds familiar .....one time I asked my pop when he last had wood, he said' i haven't had a hardon in 15yrs', he was in his 70's. I have 12 brothers & sisters, my old man worked like a dog. Twice decorated wwii vet, never talked about the war. Old school dude, he was my best friend, I'll always have much love & respect for that man...

Kirk B
05-13-2012, 02:10 PM
Yo Kirk, it sounds familiar .....one time I asked my pop when he last had wood, he said' i haven't had a hardon in 15yrs', he was in his 70's. I have 12 brothers & sisters, my old man worked like a dog. Twice decorated wwii vet, never talked about the war. Old school dude, he was my best friend, I'll always have much love & respect for that man...
my father is a vet also born in '46' and these docs are so Motivated to push certain meds like this viagra that insureace don't cover ya know i'm going next time with a list of Normal test levels for men of his age and if it it right I still want trt and i will buy him cialias on here for way cheaper and tell the doctor so fuck this doc wait till he sees me and I want to see his face

theboneman
05-17-2012, 01:57 PM
what up home slice, hey listen, have your dad try pt-141, or mt II, he'll be walking around for days with a steel pole in his pants, and thier really cheap, alright bro, ill pm ya tonight !! later cuz,
bones

Watson
05-17-2012, 07:06 PM
keep going to different docs, sooner of later ull find one who understands

heavyiron
05-18-2012, 10:03 AM
Post his lab work.

lgm1942
05-19-2012, 02:16 PM
70 year old take 100 each week, 200 every other week would wear off and felt bad, TRT does not help me much with wood but daily Celias is like majic, still work out with weights 2-3 times a week, wt 190, chest 46 waist 34, arms 17.5 small but, normal legs, as we all get older we need to find exercises that we can do when we become weeker and lose ballance, mine is pretty good so far, one other item about Medicare the Dr needs to prescribe for other things than the old one eyed lizzard, dementia, heart, etc.
best of luck to your Father.
Larry Mandrell

Curt James
05-19-2012, 02:21 PM
^^^^ Thanks for posting. :bow:

overburdened
05-19-2012, 02:49 PM
like Heavy said, post his lab work... we can all help with a little more info... tell your dad to go to that dr and tell them he wants a copy of his labs(they are his med records and he is entitled to a copy of them), I have copies of every single time I've seen a dr, along with pics/vid of surgeries, all imaging reports and cd's, etc, etc...

when you post labs, we can all be of more assistance here...

Digitalash
05-19-2012, 04:53 PM
I've essentially gotten my father on TRT, he takes 200mg a week and now fucks like a bunny lol. He's thanked me a few times for the improvements it's made for him.

Keep tryin docs, if you can't find one you already know where to get test. Airsealed has amazing price on cialis powder as well, the price hes payin for viagra is absolutely absurddd. I know maybe not the "best" solution, but if the docs won't do it you can do it cheaper yourself anyway. Just my .02

dirtwarrior
05-20-2012, 05:03 AM
what up home slice, hey listen, have your dad try pt-141, or mt II, he'll be walking around for days with a steel pole in his pants, and thier really cheap, alright bro, ill pm ya tonight !! later cuz,
bones

sounds great...gonna try it

msumuscle
05-20-2012, 06:11 AM
many doctors don't believe in trt because the lowering of testosterone and gh is a normal aging process and should not be altered, which i believe too.
Sometimes a very low level of test can be helped with some trt or hrt but low levels are not the only criteria and are not by any means the only reason for low sex drive or performance. So if your dad needs viagra , it could be only a psychological reason, it is also normal to go through phases like that, and many times people get addicted mentally to viagra..anyways taking viagra from time to time is way safer and less problematic than going on trt or hrt. his sexual problems must be assessed by a doctor to see the reason behind them , that could be only psychological. Not everything you have is to be blamed on low test, besides his doc said that his levels are normal.


Just because it's normal for testosterone levels to decrease as we get older doesn't mean we shouldn't supplement to increase the quality of life. So, basically what you're saying is when you can't get your dick hard and you're depressed all day everyday from low levels of test you should just deal with it when you can supplement with a replacement dose of testosterone that's completely safe and will improve quality of life? GTFO!

Kirk B
05-23-2012, 06:06 PM
my boy gave my dad 4 Cialis 20mg for free when I told him what this doctor did, they get paid to push med's and he looks good is very active and just has a little gut on him thats all and thats from retirement and it's not a big one at all he look great like me but older with a gut and not as muscular, I have great gens from him, and my mom. And i want to go next time and or tell him if we won't prescribe a hrt we need a doc that will do hrt and see if we can get his medicare or ARP to cover it. He's by the book, old school he will not just do test if I give it to him he's def A law abiding citizen

charley
05-24-2012, 12:25 AM
There's a lot to be said for them 'Old School' by the 'Book' Americans............................:clapping:

bjg
05-24-2012, 04:45 AM
Just because it's normal for testosterone levels to decrease as we get older doesn't mean we shouldn't supplement to increase the quality of life. So, basically what you're saying is when you can't get your dick hard and you're depressed all day everyday from low levels of test you should just deal with it when you can supplement with a replacement dose of testosterone that's completely safe and will improve quality of life? GTFO!
most doctors will not prescribe hrt or trt for physiological reasons only (age related) they will only prescribe them for pathological reasons (illness related) and you know why? because they are not as safe as you think...as simple as that...so before arguing with me go to a doctor and ask him , get some education from an academic person and stop playing the doctor and prescribing medication to yourself and others based on some crap you dig up from useless internet sites. I am an academician and i know what is on the internet and never had to look for any info regarding my field of studies from useless websites or some teenager on some forum.

lgm1942
05-26-2012, 04:53 PM
Cialis works great with several days residual staying power, Viagra does also but a one day deal, for either of these to work good you have to have the desire for sex,
TRT can be prescribed for other things, depression is most often reason, but dementia type forgetfulness also, Medicare should help if there is more reasons than to stiffen
the one eyed lizard, the Dr should already know this. In my own case I noticed that I had started to shuffle my feet like some old dude and lost self confidence, in about
a month of weekly 100 injections I was starting to walk with my old swagger and felt 40 instead of 70, I really hope for the best for your Dad. Please forgive my spelling.
Larry Mandrell