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brundel
07-11-2012, 09:07 PM
This is quoted from a post by one of our members.

--"Well, long story short, I have extremely bad testosterone levels (81ng/mL - 141ng/mL)....however for personal reasons I was never put on TRT. I came off a Super DMZ (original) cycle and ended up with no PCT due to some crap with TSA..... My levels were plummeted and I barely wanted to get out of bed. Started using Formeron for about 1 week, then went to a new doctor and told them I had symptoms of low test and I wanted to get checked. The bloodwork was done 6 days after my last dose of Formeron, and I was taking no extra supplements, not even daily vitamins. After talking to some member I found out Formeron stays in the body for awhile....So I took precautions, ate no flesh (chicken, meat, etc.), ate only tofu (this is awful shit, I do not recommend...), slept 4 hrs 2 nights before the test, pulled an all nighter the night before the test, and these are my results.... Formeron is the real deal. Thank you Brundel for a great product!

Bloods are below."--

http://i49.tinypic.com/6f4kmg.jpg

brundel
07-11-2012, 09:10 PM
His FREE T was 242.
Thats WELL above and beyond normal ranges.
This doesnt happen naturally.

Considering his total T was a max of 140 in previous testing (before Formeron) and was 700 after formeron its safe to say Formeron is the cause of his elevated test levels.

OrbitNutrition
07-11-2012, 09:14 PM
Nice

vicious 13
07-11-2012, 10:11 PM
What was his e2

brundel
07-12-2012, 07:59 PM
Doesnt say.
the point was it elevated his test showing how well it works for PCT.

HammerStrength902
07-12-2012, 08:59 PM
Nice Brundel. I just started my first bottle today. :)

oufinny
07-12-2012, 09:02 PM
Very nice. I am surprised because I wouldn't think it would be that good in PCT but apparently it may have its place.

brundel
07-12-2012, 10:19 PM
To be honest IM a little surprised it worked that fast and to that degree.
His FREE T is frigging 242. Thats mild cycle levels.

Hell mine was 7 on my last test.

This proves to anyone who said it was too suppressive for PCT uses that its not.

5thou
07-13-2012, 07:38 AM
I am on my 2nd bottle and am using it with Test 250/Anavar 40mg ED and I am loving it. I plan on using it as my PCT along with some CEM Clomid.

GSracer
07-13-2012, 05:38 PM
I just started using formeron at 1 pump per day. I am currently running methadrol extreme, test E 500mg/week and Test P 100 mg eod. Will be getting blood work done in about 2 weeks

brundel
07-13-2012, 05:45 PM
Might want to bump that dose up to 2-3 pumps. 1 pump is great for a hrt dose but not for 600test and a heavy oral dose. 3 should cover you up to 750mg+ over a gram youll need 4 pumps.

Im on hrt and i do 1 pump.

GSracer
07-14-2012, 02:01 AM
Thanks for the advice man, will do. You suggest splitting the dose up or is 1 administration fine?

heavyiron
07-14-2012, 07:57 AM
I would like to see his labs 4 weeks post Formeron administration. 6 days is too early to form an opinion about PCT effects IMHO.

Also no E2 labs is a bummer. That would have been useful info. I think a protocol needs to be written because we need more info in the future.

squigader
07-14-2012, 04:22 PM
Very promising! As heavy said, it'd be great to see some numbers 3-4 weeks from now.

Digitalash
07-19-2012, 03:20 PM
I feel like I know who this is, I won't say who but I advised against starting cycle without pct, and to also get put on trt immediately as with his natty test being so low he would probably have a very tough recovery. Either way those results are great, I too would like to see bloods a few weeks after pct though

BP2000
07-19-2012, 10:20 PM
how many pumps was he taking? Any followup bloods?

hypo_glycemic
07-19-2012, 10:28 PM
I would like to see his labs 4 weeks post Formeron administration. 6 days is too early to form an opinion about PCT effects IMHO.

Also no E2 labs is a bummer. That would have been useful info. I think a protocol needs to be written because we need more info in the future.

Was it 6 days after (his last dose)? How much was he dosing before his last dose? He mentioned after 6 days but also after his last dose?

brundel
07-19-2012, 10:34 PM
He used Formeron for 6 days and then had NOT taken it for 6 days.
So....If it were only elevating it temporarily it must have been FUKING sky high day 6 of use because his free T was 100 points above human range after 6 days of no use.
But look at it like this.....If it was this high after 6 days it would appear his LH signal was ON. Otherwise it would have been lower after 6 days.
I can shoot 250mg test and my levels are sub human after 6 days.

hypo_glycemic
07-19-2012, 10:36 PM
He used Formeron for 6 days and then had NOT taken it for 6 days.
So....If it were only elevating it temporarily it must have been FUKING sky high day 6 of use because his free T was 100 points above human range after 6 days of no use.
But look at it like this.....If it was this high after 6 days it would appear his LH signal was ON. Otherwise it would have been lower after 6 days.
I can shoot 250mg test and my levels are sub human after 6 days.

I re read OP. .I got ya. I wasn't quite sure ..

dirtwarrior
07-21-2012, 02:44 PM
On formeron my skin gets very oily... I know it is working

tinyshrek
07-21-2012, 04:05 PM
On formeron my skin gets very oily... I know it is working

Como what? Lol


- SHREK

dirtwarrior
07-21-2012, 04:32 PM
excess test = oily skin

brundel
07-21-2012, 05:19 PM
My acne starts to flare when I use it as well.
Anything mildly androgenic or anabolic seems to cause acne for me.
Thats where acnedren comes in. I eat those things like tic tacs. = no more oily skin.

tinyshrek
07-21-2012, 06:00 PM
excess test = oily skin

You can get oily skin rather an anti E is working or not there are hundreds of studies that show this. To say my skin gets oily so I know the formeron is working is not an intelligent comment at all. You should get ur E levels checked and post them?


- SHREK

brundel
07-21-2012, 06:24 PM
Im pretty sure hes not saying his estro is low hes saying its elevating his test levels or getting oily skin from the PH conversion.
Youll notice this thread is NOT about estrogen.