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TrojanMan60563
09-25-2012, 08:17 PM
Are there any near the Midwest? Ones that will give you a good dose of test and maybe some deca? There is Envizion Medical down in FL but that is a hike for me. Not to mention all their oils are compounded. I'd rather find a doctor that would just write me an RX so I can fill them on my own. Envizion Medical wants like $150 for a vial of cypionate....costco charges like $58 for the same thing. Not sure about Deca at costco but I'm sure it can't be any more than what a clinic is charging. Anyways I'm looking for people that know of legit clinics in the midwest that give good doses of test and maybe some other things. I dont wanna fly to FL and get raped every month for the AAS cost on top of that.

DetMuscle
09-25-2012, 08:19 PM
Florida and Nevada are the only states that dont track Doctors prescriptions. Thats why the clinics are there bro. Now there are plenty of anti aging clinics in the midwest, but....they are not as lax as the ones in those states and will give you minimal and your going to pay. Now, I have a clinic in Flordia that requires a trip a year to see the doc, but they credit you with that cost to travel towards the meds. Spectrum | Home (http://www.spectrumhrt.com)

BP2000
09-25-2012, 08:22 PM
Are there any near the Midwest? Ones that will give you a good dose of test and maybe some deca? There is Envizion Medical down in FL but that is a hike for me. Not to mention all their oils are compounded. I'd rather find a doctor that would just write me an RX so I can fill them on my own. Envizion Medical wants like $150 for a vial of cypionate....costco charges like $58 for the same thing. Not sure about Deca at costco but I'm sure it can't be any more than what a clinic is charging. Anyways I'm looking for people that know of legit clinics in the midwest that give good doses of test and maybe some other things. I dont wanna fly to FL and get raped every month for the AAS cost on top of that.

Fly down to FL for initial consult. YOu can do video over the internet after that...

TrojanMan60563
09-25-2012, 08:25 PM
Florida and Nevada are the only states that dont track Doctors prescriptions. Thats why the clinics are there bro. Now there are plenty of anti aging clinics in the midwest, but....they are not as lax as the ones in those states and will give you minimal and your going to pay. Now, I have a clinic in Flordia that requires a trip a year to see the doc, but they credit you with that cost to travel towards the meds. Spectrum | Home (http://www.spectrumhrt.com)

Will they give you a script, or do they rape you on the meds? I really dont mind the flight...its the 300-400 a month I have a difficult time swallowing. However for sake of I have a great job/life I am not risking online purchse of drugs anymore.

DetMuscle
09-25-2012, 08:29 PM
Will they give you a script, or do they rape you on the meds? I really dont mind the flight...its the 300-400 a month I have a difficult time swallowing. However for sake of I have a great job/life I am not risking online purchse of drugs anymore.

They send the script to one of their pharmacies and the pharmacy ships it. They both make money. I dont use the clinics myself, but I used to

TrojanMan60563
09-25-2012, 08:30 PM
This Envizion Medical will give 400mg Cypionate, and 200mg Deca EW plus Arimidix....all at premium costs..I'm looking for something like this but ideally where I can fill my own scripts.

TrojanMan60563
09-25-2012, 08:30 PM
They send the script to one of their pharmacies and the pharmacy ships it. They both make money. I dont use the clinics myself, but I used to

Do you remember the costs?

BP2000
09-25-2012, 08:35 PM
This Envizion Medical will give 400mg Cypionate, and 200mg Deca EW plus Arimidix....all at premium costs..I'm looking for something like this but ideally where I can fill my own scripts.

what do you mean fill your own script. The clinics all have deals with pharmacies they get kick backs. They ship right to your door. Its just as legal and you filling your own script.

TrojanMan60563
09-25-2012, 08:36 PM
what do you mean fill your own script. The clinics all have deals with pharmacies they get kick backs. They ship right to your door. Its just as legal and you filling your own script.

Just as legal, but 3x more expensive.

DetMuscle
09-25-2012, 08:41 PM
Do you remember the costs?

I do, but you will have to call to get current prices. Ill telll you how I do it and how I found a Doc. To tired right now. Ill PM you tommorow. Just got back from gym. Need food :)

TrojanMan60563
09-25-2012, 08:47 PM
I do, but you will have to call to get current prices. Ill telll you how I do it and how I found a Doc. To tired right now. Ill PM you tommorow. Just got back from gym. Need food :)

Cool thanks!

j2048b
11-01-2012, 09:28 PM
Any updates to this? Id also like to know det- how u found ur doc? I know its been a month since posting here but id appreciate the help!


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bb1129
11-08-2012, 05:50 PM
^^^this!

can a brother get some help??

yamar1
11-09-2012, 03:07 PM
I live in pa and the place I do doesn't require me to fly or any of that shit. They just mail me the meds.

j2048b
11-09-2012, 06:16 PM
So if ur in pa do u go to dr shippen then?


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heavyiron
11-11-2012, 12:16 PM
I think NJ and NY are the states that have to do a face to face with the doc. I sometimes use a place in Florida and Cyp is $90 max per 10ml. If I go to my doc locally its $45 for the script however there is a copay each visit.

JW_HRT
11-21-2012, 08:44 AM
I have a clinic in Flordia that requires a trip a year to see the doc, but they credit you with that cost to travel towards the meds. Spectrum | Home (http://www.spectrumhrt.com)


yup thats us

mfpd
11-21-2012, 09:51 AM
Get with JW_HRT. They are a good group. He has been there to walk me through this procedure for several years. The costs are manageable and don't seem to be crazy expensive. Sure, it is more than some underground lab. However, I am happy to pay for access to professionals any time I need it. They go over the labs regularly and work with me through all of the injuries and stuff I have had over the years. I can't say enough good things about Spectrum and JW_HRT.

I have tried to use docs in my area and it involved a lot of me trying to educate the physican on things I have researched over the years. It got frustrating. I like having a group that is up to date on TRT/HRT. Also, Spectrum is not for those searching for supraphysiologic levels of hormones. It is all monitored and you will be treated well. At least, in my experiences, I have been treated great.

JW_HRT
11-21-2012, 04:37 PM
Get with JW_HRT. They are a good group. He has been there to walk me through this procedure for several years. The costs are manageable and don't seem to be crazy expensive. Sure, it is more than some underground lab. However, I am happy to pay for access to professionals any time I need it. They go over the labs regularly and work with me through all of the injuries and stuff I have had over the years. I can't say enough good things about Spectrum and JW_HRT.

I have tried to use docs in my area and it involved a lot of me trying to educate the physican on things I have researched over the years. It got frustrating. I like having a group that is up to date on TRT/HRT. Also, Spectrum is not for those searching for supraphysiologic levels of hormones. It is all monitored and you will be treated well. At least, in my experiences, I have been treated great.

Glad to hear that buddy its been my pleasure!

yamar1
12-01-2012, 12:24 PM
This Envizion Medical will give 400mg Cypionate, and 200mg Deca EW plus Arimidix....all at premium costs..I'm looking for something like this but ideally where I can fill my own scripts.


Dam 400 mg/wk is a cycle, not TRT.

BP2000
12-03-2012, 07:45 PM
Dam 400 mg/wk is a cycle, not TRT.


you could go halfs with someone. LOL

TrojanMan60563
12-04-2012, 09:04 PM
Dam 400 mg/wk is a cycle, not TRT.

Yeah that is the idea...lol...I get 150mg for HRT now so that would be 550mg/wk plus the deca...that IS a cycle. The costs are just stupid. I'd actually pay the costs if they would skype people in for appointments. There is no need to see me...labs tell the story. They claim FL requires an actual visit and I just can't fly to FL for a day a year for this...flight, rental car, maybe hotel, and visit plus first months meds would be $1K-$1200...screw that shit.

4v330
12-10-2012, 01:16 PM
I'm with you trying to find a place where I can go without having to spend a fortune to get started. If I could just mail off my labs and them send me the test I'd be happy. I don't need 400 mg of cyp a week, I wouldn't turn it down, but I don't need that much. From what I've seen 200 and an AI is what a lot of people are getting, I just don't know how to find a place where I can get on that. I wish I could go somewhere local but at my age it's hard to get anyone to see me even though I've been shut down for years due to past drug use.

TrojanMan60563
04-04-2013, 01:06 PM
Think I'm going to take that trip to FL in a couple weeks. I'll let you know how that goes.

1693
04-04-2013, 04:51 PM
Think I'm going to take that trip to FL in a couple weeks. I'll let you know how that goes.

Could check with a4m dot com for an anti-aging doc in your area.

TrojanMan60563
04-08-2013, 01:10 PM
Could check with a4m dot com for an anti-aging doc in your area.

There are tons of them all over the place. Its a matter of finding one that is on board with getting your hormones to a level that is considered higher than normal range. You can get your levels to middle of the road with any endo however they wont give you a dose that will put you even high normal. So if you're shooting for being over the normal levels you wont find it in the majority of these fountain of youth clinics. Most of them are geared to cater to aging people that want their youth back and want to get HGH and other things your typical endo would not give you. I'm not looking for HGH unless my insurance will buy it for me, but I am looking to have testosterone levels higher than what is considered normal.

Tallman 45
09-10-2015, 01:21 AM
I called Envizion yesterday they now charge 250 consult and 199 to read blood work and the RX prices vary. If we can get enough of us we may be able to get deal going for IMF. Curious to know what spectrum offers to IMF members. I work with a doc in SC who does not charge me extra for RX just the cost of the visit and whatever the RX cost. High range HRT. He just faxes order to compound pharmacy.

bayou boy
09-10-2015, 07:47 AM
I called Envizion yesterday they now charge 250 consult and 199 to read blood work and the RX prices vary. If we can get enough of us we may be able to get deal going for IMF. Curious to know what spectrum offers to IMF members. I work with a doc in SC who does not charge me extra for RX just the cost of the visit and whatever the RX cost. High range HRT. He just faxes order to compound pharmacy.
Dam that doesn't sound bad. This is a old thread but like to know if anything has changed. Maybe things have gotten cheaper or easier?

Tallman 45
09-10-2015, 10:07 PM
I got us specifics and the real scoop about Envizion Medical. Prices and procedures reflecting 9/2015.

The initial labs are $199 for the basic start up panel. If you are interested in Growth Hormone or other GHRP's then we would want to test you "IGF-1" levels. This is an extra $50 that in my personal opinion is very worth it. This test will allow you to be given anti-aging medications that you wouldn't otherwise qualify for. These payments can be taken in person or over the phone and the lab requisition form will be emailed or printed within 15 minutes of payment. You then take this form to any LabCorp diagnostics in your area and they will fax the results upon finalizing. These are the labs that will be pulled:
- TSH + T4F + T3Free
- Testosterone, Serum
- Estradiol
- CBC with Differenctial/Platelet
- Prostate-Specific Ag, Serum
- Progesterone
- CMP12+8AC
- ($50 Extra Test) IGF-1


STEP TWO: DOCTORS VISIT
Face to Face visit with physician in order to review blood work and discuss medication protocol. This will be based on your blood work results.

STEP THREE: ORDERING MEDICATIONS
Once you see the physician, you two will come up with a protocol for medications and we will be able to get these paid for at that point.
Aside from standard Testosterone Therapy, there is a plethora of others you could be prescribed for voluntarily take depending on your labs.

STEP FOUR: REFILLING MEDICATIONS
Every time you need to reorder your medication the process is simple. We keep a credit card on file and all you do is call us up or send us an email specifying what you need. You do this about 2 weeks in advance to ensure that the package arrives to your house on time. We process the order, send it to the pharmacy and it is shipped directly to your home once it is filled. It's that simple. Should you need a change in medication, it is the same process. Call and let us know, we will relay the info to the physician and return your call as quickly as possible with an answer or adjustment.

STEP FIVE: UPDATING LABS
Once you start the treatment we require follow up labs after the first 3 months and then again every 6 months following. This blood work can be done the same way as your initial lab work.
?Follow up labs are only $150 through our physicians account -- again IGF-1 is an additional $50.

STEP SIX: REVISITING THE PHYSICIAN
After one year of being on the program you will have to return to see the physician. This happens every year, once a year. This visit cost is only $150. We will be updating you through out the year to be sure you are scheduled and prepared ahead of time to make travel arrangements.

Below you will find our pricing and a brief description of the medication available.

?Testosterone Cypionate 200mg/ml 10Ml vial
Cost:140.00
Lasts: 10 weeks as long as you are injecting 1 ML a week.
Syringes: 14.00 (optional)

Estrogen Blocker:

?Anastrozole 1MG tablet
Cost:60.00
Lasts: 15 weeks

For joint pain and healing of old sports injuries:

? Nandrolone Deconate 8mL (2x 4mL vials)
Cost: $200.00
Lasts: ~8 weeks (8 1mL injections)
Syringe Kit (optional): $5.00

To Help increase lean muscle mass and prevent muscle wasting and improve performance at the gym:

? Oxandrolone 50mg Troche
Cost: $10.50 per troche (i.e. 30 troches = $315.00)
Last: 1 troche per day as needed.
? ECA (Ephedra25/Caffeine200/Aspirin30) Capsules #90
Cost: $110
Lasts: 30 days

To help keep your testes from shrinking and keep your natural testosterone level up:

?HCG 5.000IU vial
Cost: $80.00
Lasts: 2 months

Anti-Aging Medication:
Improve sleep, elevate positive moods, decrease anxiety, improve skin elasticity, reduce visual aging, improved libido, some formulas increase appetite and reduce body fat and many other benefits!

? Sermorelin 6mg, 15mg or Forte 7.5mL (750 units) Vial
Cost: $160, $199.00 or $220
Lasts: 30 days
Syringes (optional): $15.50
? GHRP2/6 100mg or 200mg Troches #30
Cost: $95 or $160
Lasts: 30 days

Improve Sleep and Reduce Anxiety:

? Progesterone 100mg IR Capsules #30 60 or 90.
Cost: $60, $115 or $165
Lasts: 30-90 days. (1-3 capsules daily)

Thyroid Treatment Medications:

? Armour Thyroid 30, 60 or 120mg
Cost: $40
Lasts: ~30 days
? Selenium 200mcg Capsules #30
Cost: $30.00
Lasts: 30 days

Erectile Dysfunction:

? Tadalifil (Cialis) 22mg Troches/Capsules
Cost: $15.00 each
Lasts: 24-72hrs
? Sildenafil (Viagra) 100mg Troches/Capsules
Cost: $10.00 Each
Lasts: 1-4 uses.
? TriMix Injectable (al300mcg/pap30mg/phen1.5mg)
Costs: $225.00
Lasts: Varies with Sexual Activity

Vitamin Cocktails To Improve general health, increase energy, burn fat, etc.

? Vitamin B-12 Injectable 30mL Vial
Cost: $60.00
Lasts: 10-30 weeks
? L-Carnatine Injectable 30mL Vial
Cost: $120.00
Lasts: 10-30 weeks
? Amino Blend Injectable 30mL Vial
Cost: $120.00
Lasts: 4-5 Weeks
? M.I.C. Fat Burning Injectable 30ml Vial
Cost: $90.00
Lasts: 10-30 Weeks
? M.I.C. Ultra Burn Injectable 30mL Vial
Cost: $150.00
Lasts: 10-30 Weeks
? M.I.C. Resistance Immune Boost 30mL Vial
Cost: $150.00
Lasts: 60 days

General Health Care Medications:

? Liver Protect Capsules #60
Cost: $33.00
Lasts: 30 Days
? DHEA 25 or 50mg Capsules
Cost: $1.00 - $1.75 each
Lasts: Varies
? Prescription Strength Vitamin D #30
Costs: $30.00
Lasts: 30 days

Shipping Information
? In Office Shipping - $9.00
? Ground Shipping ? $14.00

j2048b
09-14-2015, 03:42 PM
Not bad pricing but why pay 140 for test cyp when u can get it for $90 from another clinic???? And the var? Cmon.... Any clinic should be willing to give u options such as mine? I can get 5 mlg capsules, all the way up to 50 mlg capsules.....

How much do they charge for gh??? All i see is sermorelin? Rather have genos or something else but most are really raised thru the roof !!


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franchise24
10-04-2015, 01:41 PM
Not bad pricing but why pay 140 for test cyp when u can get it for $90 from another clinic???? And the var? Cmon.... Any clinic should be willing to give u options such as mine? I can get 5 mlg capsules, all the way up to 50 mlg capsules.....

How much do they charge for gh??? All i see is sermorelin? Rather have genos or something else but most are really raised thru the roof !!


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If you don't mind me asking what clinic do you use? Would I have to do a face to face with the clinic? If so after the initial face to face would they mail the meds?

Tallman 45
10-05-2015, 04:17 PM
I am on HRT regime so I see a regular doc at a local clinic. Doc is open minded so we speak freely about my test and deca results and adjustments. Keep in mind, I am 45 yrs. old with osteoarthritis and anemia so that plays a role too. The anti aging clinics come with a heavy premium that's for sure. I have someone I trust and one group on this board that is my go to for help.

Tallman 45
10-05-2015, 04:33 PM
I agree with others there hitting hard on the meds prices. if they want to service us they need to be a way more realistic on their med prices. I'm not a socialist but come on. Got enough of those monkeys in D.C. already. When I pay $9 for test cyp for 200/mL and deca $75 for 5/mL from my lgt doc why should I go there? Makes no sense.

j2048b
10-05-2015, 06:42 PM
If you don't mind me asking what clinic do you use? Would I have to do a face to face with the clinic? If so after the initial face to face would they mail the meds?

I am about to start up with andro medical group.... They are the ones who use to have maximus and then new era as their advertisement arms, now they are getting rid of new era.... So im gonna go back and i might rep for them.... Eventually if it all goes well

And no face to face as far as i know!

Get ahold of eric admin.acg@gmail.com and ask any q's ud like!


And their prices are way better imo anyways....!

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j2048b
10-05-2015, 06:47 PM
I agree with others there hitting hard on the meds prices. if they want to service us they need to be a way more realistic on their med prices. I'm not a socialist but come on. Got enough of those monkeys in D.C. already. When I pay $9 for test cyp for 200/mL and deca $75 for 5/mL from my lgt doc why should I go there? Makes no sense.

Do u go thru envision?? Or who??




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franchise24
10-05-2015, 07:21 PM
I am about to start up with andro medical group.... They are the ones who use to have maximus and then new era as their advertisement arms, now they are getting rid of new era.... So im gonna go back and i might rep for them.... Eventually if it all goes well

And no face to face as far as i know!

Get ahold of eric admin.acg@gmail.com and ask any q's ud like!


And their prices are way better imo anyways....!

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Thank you.

bayou boy
10-06-2015, 09:56 AM
Not bad pricing but why pay 140 for test cyp when u can get it for $90 from another clinic???? And the var? Cmon.... Any clinic should be willing to give u options such as mine? I can get 5 mlg capsules, all the way up to 50 mlg capsules.....

How much do they charge for gh??? All i see is sermorelin? Rather have genos or something else but most are really raised thru the roof !!


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Hey bro just getting little update to see of you starting repping? I would like to get from clinic or real Dr one day. Have been interested in gear as well as GH.

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j2048b
10-08-2015, 07:20 PM
Hey bro just getting little update to see of you starting repping? I would like to get from clinic or real Dr one day. Have been interested in gear as well as GH.

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I will be an official rep here soon.... In the mean time if u need his contact info let me know, i know a few have already contacted the main guy.....


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