Re: Re: Re: Re: Let's debate the state of the US public school system, and ways to fix it.
Originally posted by Prince
Seeing as you're a kid yourself, have never been a parent and are talking out of your ass, I think you should kindly shut the fuck up!
Being on the outside allows a much clearer view of what is going on. Your basis to take most blame for this away from the parents exists because you are a parent. No shame in that. I wouldn't want to place it on myself either. I don't know your kids, Prince, so I'm not categorizing you or them anywhere. But I do know the kids of parents around me, and elsewhere, and it disgusts me.
I see parents who bitch and complain that it's the teacher's fault their students are failing. Oh, really? So it's their fault the student doesn't turn work in?!?!? Nice logic there. It was
always my fault when I didn't do well in school. I tried the blame game. Accountability. Not much going on these days.
I don't know how much more I can stress that a child is the product of the parents and their parenting. I am who I am today because of what my parents did and did not do. The same goes for every other person in the public school system. A person who raises a child as a cheater, liar, and stealer did a piss poor job of parenting. There are quite a few of these type of students at the schools in this area.
In highschool these kids are hardly held accountable for their own actions. It's pathetic. Reason? The parents bitch bitch bitch and threaten lawsuit this and lawsuit that. The school districts can't afford the court costs, let alone any costs which result in the chance the suer wins. The end result is the districts being blackmaled into submission. There isn't another option, without disallowing lawsuits against school districts.
Now, to address the points regarding the people in the institution. I will not deny there are bad teachers. I've had some before. But poor teachers existed long before this current dilema. And tenure is not a the problem. Teachers can, and do, get fired while tenured. It's rare, though. Very few people want to become teachers. So it's more detrimental to remove a teacher because they're bad than to keep them on. Removing a teacher would mean having to find another one to replace them, while finding new ones to meet the needs of the growing district. It's really a no win situation.
Say, for instance, there is a company. It pays it's employees an average 40K a year, who work 80 hours per week and there are employees of varying competancies. The public demands that the bad employees be let go. But there is a problem. The bad employees still manage to produce the same volume of work as the other employees, just to a lesser degree of quality. So, there needs to be a hiring of new employees to take their place. Ah, but the new employees are alll working for a competing company which payes 75K per year for only 45 hours of work. And they're not going to leave that job.
Money diverted away from unnecessary expenditures to teacher payroll could help get better teachers into the mix. There are plenty of people capable of being wonderful teachers who won't take the chance to shine because it's not worth the effort and suffering.
To those complaining about credibility, I have parents, I see what they did, I know other people who have parents, I see what their parents did. I may not be a parent, but that doesn't mean I don't see what things can work and things don't. Prince, I'm not speaking out of my ass. I'm educated. I'm observant. And I have things to say of importance. I'll disregard your disrespectful comment to shut the fuck up and continue speaking.