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JCBourne
03-25-2013, 11:08 AM
So I've been going back and fourth with my doctor about what to do, but let's just to the chase. He is finally willing to review my research I have about TRT the pros of it and why it's effective and proven to help, work and actually lower health issues from low T. He said he cannot guarantee that he will be convinced on any treatment that falls outside the medical protocols/guidelines that are in place for his profession (his words). He has dealt with TRT before, although in older men. I need some great data, research, studies, stuff that proves that he should help me. Prefer ones that talk about test, AI and HCG. I have tons of bloods done, all pointing to low T (a long with the side effects) he just wants to send me to a specialist cause he's more comfortable but knows my insurance is very gray area about this after our latest talk, and is talking with an endo before we speak (Let's hope this endo is TRT pro). My doctor is there to help me, hes a great guy. But given the clinic I see him I understand why (Can't go into details without giving away personal information) but he is willing a least to view this stuff over and he has been VERY helpful with options. I see him tomorrow and sadly my folder that was full of great links and data was trashed somehow. If you guys can help a brother out, that would be awesome. I would love to have my doctor help me, otherwise he knows I will be going the online clinic route. Please help fellow brothers.

independent
03-25-2013, 11:26 AM
All Things Male (http://www.allthingsmale.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?2-All-Things-Male)

Dont worry about your ins paying for it, just get the script.

independent
03-25-2013, 12:06 PM
Low Testosterone Treatment for Men - HCG Injections/Shots, Side Effects, Dosage, Half Life, Arimidex (http://www.mens-hormonal-health.com/testosterone-therapy.html)

MuscleGauge1
03-25-2013, 12:10 PM
Man I really understand the situation you are in right now and I feel like you should also get the script
from the doctor and just follow the doses that are given it is the best way to handle your situation
I really wish you the best of luck and this is what I did it was great and worked out perfectly fine.

JCBourne
03-25-2013, 12:38 PM
I'm not one who will take a script if its some retarded dose, without supplement items needed for TRT. I really just need what I asked for the rest I can decide after he makes a choice. I already know what works just time to get the doctor on board.

chocolatemalt
03-25-2013, 12:50 PM
A few places to start:

Testosterone treatment and mortality:
Testosterone treatment and mortality... [J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22496507)

Symptoms of hypogonadism (be sure to point out to your doc whichever of these is ailing you... low sex drive, irritability, chronic fatigue, etc):
Male hypogonadism: Symptoms - MayoClinic.com (http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/male-hypogonadism/DS00300/DSECTION=symptoms)

This is a bro-speak sort of article for popular consumption and might not cut the mustard with your doc, but it makes some very interesting points about the impossibility of "staying natural" in modern society with all the estrogenic compounds infiltrating our bodies:
Why Your Testosterone Levels are Lower Than You Think (and what to do about it) (http://boldanddetermined.com/2012/08/19/low-testosterone-levels/)

I think some docs take the core tenet of the Hypocratic Oath, "Do no harm", a bit too far. It must also be considered what harm might come of doing nothing. Your doc might see TRT as a only a potentially harmful novelty rather than something that will prevent harm and has a reasonable risk/benefit profile. Sounds like you're convincing him to be more open to it however. Excellent!

JCBourne
03-25-2013, 08:24 PM
Great guys some of these without looking are ones I have saved. Is there some studies/research on AIs and HCG? I know this is negatively looked upon for males by many doctors.

chocolatemalt
03-26-2013, 10:19 AM
Here's one on long term adex use as a form of TRT:
Effects of Aromatase Inhibition in Elderly Men with Low or Borderline-Low Serum Testosterone Levels (http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/89/3/1174.long)

JCBourne
03-27-2013, 04:53 PM
Awesome if there's more post it up, positive results after talking with doc.