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2BigGunz
05-28-2004, 05:23 AM
Am i right in saying that 1ml of eq is 50mg witch would mean id have to do like 8ml a week to be doing 400mg ??? And What's Eq like for strength.

Im thinking of useing Test prop Eq an proviron for a cutter
Anyone had good results useing eq and test pro with good diet and cardio ??

i ask about the strength cuz i still wanna lift as heavy as i can when dropping BF next cycle. I dont compete so i plane to lift heavy and not opt for light weight high rep's RATHER JUST KEEP BANGING !!!

Mudge
05-28-2004, 05:48 AM
Dont expect strength from EQ. I've seen as low as 25mg/ml, pretty worthless in that kind of dose as an anabolic.

If you want to cut and add strength go with some fina.

ZECH
05-28-2004, 06:12 AM
EQ usually comes in 25 or 50mg/ml. Ttokkyo makes a 200mg/ml which you would only have to inject once a week vs. a couple times a week for the others. It is commonly used for cutting, but it will increase your appetite. A commom dose is 300-400mg/week.

2BigGunz
05-28-2004, 08:10 AM
My man cant get fina ! what else you reckon ??

LAM
05-28-2004, 08:16 AM
Quality Vet and Black Label (UG lab) also makes a 200mg/ml EQ

jeb
05-28-2004, 09:27 AM
I got some 200/mg EQ UG, painless I'll see how it works i'm in my first week though.

BCC
05-28-2004, 09:49 AM
EQ should be relatively painless at high concentrations upwards of 200mgs/ml. Undecylenate doesn't require much solvent to suspend.

jeb
05-28-2004, 09:53 AM
no wonder usually when I shoot 1 and half cc into my delts of test it hurts a bit, yesterday that I shooted 1cc of EQ into my delt I didn't feel anything.

jeb
05-28-2004, 09:54 AM
How does EQ works for you BBC?

BCC
05-28-2004, 09:56 AM
I really like EQ. But what I dislike is the undecylenate ester. It's half life is so long that it can be tough to control when coming off a cycle. Plus, I've just become a huge fan of all short esters (propionate, acetate, ect).

The next time I use EQ it will be the unesterfied base version. And I will shoot it twice a day if I have to.

Mudge
05-28-2004, 10:30 AM
Short esters rule.

jeb
05-28-2004, 10:33 AM
I think I've read that the undecylenate ester is only one carbon atom longer than the decanoate ester right? I will go with short esters next time for sure, I hate to wait on the test enathate to kick in.!!!

JerseyDevil
05-28-2004, 10:57 AM
Adding winny for the last 4-5 weeks of a test prop cycle is supposed to be a great choice for cutting and adding strength. Only problem is potential joint pain due to the winny drying you out. I wonder how Ben Johnson dealt with the joint pain? :)

I'm currently 3 weeks in on a test prop cycle and I love it. I could actually feel the prop starting to kick in in just a few days after the first injection. None of this 4-6 weeks crap of waiting to see something. I am probably going to add 50mg ed of winstrol the last 4 weeks, so I'll report back my impressions if I do.

ZECH
05-28-2004, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by JerseyDevil
Adding winny for the last 4-5 weeks of a test prop cycle is supposed to be a great choice for cutting and adding strength. Only problem is potential joint pain due to the winny drying you out.


I guess that leaves me out as my joints kill me anyway!

Mudge
05-28-2004, 01:33 PM
Long esters, "is it working yet? I think it might be working..." :lol:

Test prop by comparison, one week after your first workout when the weights go up "all f'in right!!!"