help with first cycle

i have never done steriods but i going to give it a shot. i have deca 300 10 cc's and winny 100 mg 20 cc's. i am 6 foot 180. i am looking to add 10 lbs. is this an ok stack? ive heard from a friend that deca and winny are both stackers so they should go with something else. should i get test and put the winny aside for later? also what all should i take after steriods. thanks

hey bud

deca and winny alone will make ur dick limp as fuck. You need test for sure.

Test enan week 1-10 at 500 mg (or sustanon)
Deca at 400 mg week 1-10
HCG at 500 iu once every 4 days weeks 1-11

After your cycle
Nolvadex week 12-16 at 30 mg ED

keep nova on hand during cycle for gyno

its all about eating right, calorie intake at 4000 calories + of clean food
leave the winny for a later cycle, IMO..good luck

titans13ae said:

i have never done steriods but i going to give it a shot. i have deca 300 10 cc's and winny 100 mg 20 cc's. i am 6 foot 180. i am looking to add 10 lbs. is this an ok stack? ive heard from a friend that deca and winny are both stackers so they should go with something else. should i get test and put the winny aside for later? also what all should i take after steriods. thanks

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you want to keep your 1st cycle very simple so you know how your body reacts to certain drugs. using complex combintaions do not allow you to do that. for a first cycle all you need is some form of test.

deca and winny are pretty much used to serve 2 different purposes. deca is primarily used on a bulking cycle with some form of test, while winstrol is typically used during the last 6 weeks of a cutting cycle to help "harden" up the physique when body fat is low enough...

I did one stack 5 years ago - deca, sust and enanthate - for 6 weeks. I have regretted it ever since because I have no idea the damage done to my body and may never know. I have what sounds like a similar build as you in terms of height and weight. The gains I had were great, but the regrets now outweigh anything I did.

To those 'in the know,' should I be concerned like I am or am I overreacting? In other words, does a 6 week stack with no noticeable side effects with the compounds I used have any long term effects on the liver or would I have discovered them by now?

To the original poster, I would say the regrets I now have are not worth doing them but it is your decision.

thanks for the information guys

well ive been wanting to try it for a while so i am pretty set on it. is deca and test and winny too much for a first time stack? how could i spilt it up.

titans13ae said:

i have never done steriods but i going to give it a shot. i have deca 300 10 cc's and winny 100 mg 20 cc's. i am 6 foot 180. i am looking to add 10 lbs. is this an ok stack? ive heard from a friend that deca and winny are both stackers so they should go with something else. should i get test and put the winny aside for later? also what all should i take after steriods. thanks

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You are too young to use steroids. and way too small.

I agree that you need to work longer naturally before you start a cycle. You SHOULD NOT take anything besides Test for your first cycle. You will get good enough results from that. However, judging by the fact that you are 6-foot and only 180, you still need to gain some more naturally before you do a cycle. I was about 195lbs at 5'8 before I started my first cycle, and I still think that I should have waited a little longer.

What Lam said.....................