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RCfootball87
09-13-2004, 06:51 PM
Now I don't intend to use steroids 'til I'm older mainly because they're hard to find and really expensive for a 16 year old. But I'll prolly use some pro-hromones right around my 17th brithday. What I'm wondering is is it really all that dangerous compared with a lot of other things teenagers do. I mean obviously taking steroids at 17 doesn't even compare too how bad you'd get messed up taking them at 13. People always say there will be "long term side effects" but no one ever seems to want to ellaborate, same goes for pro-hromones. Are you looking at a good chance of permanent infertility from taking pro hormones or steroids or is that only if you stay on way too long and cause a total shutdown? I'm just curious to know how it stacks up next to these kids that go out and get shit faced drunk twice a week at my age.

Luke9583
09-13-2004, 07:00 PM
They can change the laws for drinking and smoking ages... who gives a shit, right? Some people drink at age 10 and they still live.

So you can't buy porn until you're 18? Who sets these ages? wtf!

There is a SERIOUS reason though why you should NOT touch PH/PS/ or AS until you are DONE GROWING> around 21.

17 is too young for PH/PS and AS' dude. Sorry, why risk not being able to have kids or never getting a hard on normally again? (not to mention how fucked up a person is when they aren't hormonally balanced)

Wait til' you are 21! Drinking at your age is no where near as dangerous.

LAM
09-13-2004, 07:06 PM
Now I don't intend to use steroids 'til I'm older mainly because they're hard to find and really expensive for a 16 year old. But I'll prolly use some pro-hromones right around my 17th brithday. What I'm wondering is is it really all that dangerous compared with a lot of other things teenagers do. I mean obviously taking steroids at 17 doesn't even compare too how bad you'd get messed up taking them at 13. People always say there will be "long term side effects" but no one ever seems to want to ellaborate, same goes for pro-hromones. Are you looking at a good chance of permanent infertility from taking pro hormones or steroids or is that only if you stay on way too long and cause a total shutdown? I'm just curious to know how it stacks up next to these kids that go out and get shit faced drunk twice a week at my age.

you can permanately screw up your endocrine system by using AS at a young age...

RCfootball87
09-13-2004, 07:58 PM
you can permanately screw up your endocrine system by using AS at a young age...
How though? What do you mean "screw up," be more specific. I might be done growing already, I'm already taller than my dad by an inch and my mom's pretty small, the most I would grow beyond this would be an inch. Supposedly your shoulders keep getting wider though.

Purdue Power
09-13-2004, 08:35 PM
no, you are not done growing. Just because you may not get taller doesn't mean that you are done growing. Your growth plates will be fused closed if you touch prohormones that young. I am 21 right now and have done a lot of growing since I was 17. Your muscle structure still hasn't set in yet. DO NOT TOUCH prohormones yet, it is not worth it at all. Your body still hasn't leveled off from puberty with its hormone production, and you will seriously throw it off by taking in extra testosterone, permanantly messing up your natural test production.

LAM
09-13-2004, 09:05 PM
How though? What do you mean "screw up," be more specific. I might be done growing already, I'm already taller than my dad by an inch and my mom's pretty small, the most I would grow beyond this would be an inch. Supposedly your shoulders keep getting wider though.

there is a lot more to "growth" than just how tall you are. do some research on the HPTA. injecting hormones into your body causes your own body to shut down test production, etc. you disrupt the natural pattern of the various cycles that the endocrine system goes through...

Evil ANT
09-14-2004, 12:40 AM
Listen to these guys. They're smart.

That being said, how is it that Arnold juiced since he was 15 and didn't seem to have any problems? He did pump out four kids, after all. Did he just luck out?

Flex
09-14-2004, 09:28 AM
Listen to these guys. They're smart.

That being said, how is it that Arnold juiced since he was 15 and didn't seem to have any problems? He did pump out four kids, after all. Did he just luck out?

very interesting, Ant.

First off, at 17 you are in the "peak" of your testosterone production. If you train correctly, hard, and consistently, eat enough cals and of good cals, and get enough rest, you should have no problem growing.

On the other hand, that is a very interesting point about Arnold. Its fuckin weird cuz about an hour before i read this post a teacher and i were discussing the exact same thing about Arnold.

As far as ph's go, i dont suggest using them. Your test is already through the roof, so you can gain naturally. BUT, on the other hand, its not gonna kill ya.

And back to Ahhhhnold, thats a very interesting topic. He juiced extremely hard for almost 2 decades and, like you said and we all know, he had 4 healthy children.

As far as i know, Albert Beckles competed into his '60's!!! Lets assume he started juicing in his 20's. THATS 4 DECADES OF STEROIDS! He's still alive and strong.

The difference is that nowadays guys are on SO much at a time and they rarely, if ever come off.

It'll be interesting to see how long Ronnie Coleman lives. Dude is on some JUICE.

Mudge
09-14-2004, 10:13 AM
They can change the laws for drinking and smoking ages... who gives a shit, right? Some people drink at age 10 and they still live.

There is more to life than just "living," and if something were to shorten your lifespan or quality of life that would not be much fun.

Pirate!
09-14-2004, 05:37 PM
There is a SERIOUS reason though why you should NOT touch PH/PS/ or AS until you are DONE GROWING> around 21.

Sorry, why risk not being able to have kids or never getting a hard on normally again? (not to mention how fucked up a person is when they aren't hormonally balanced)

Wait til' you are 21! How old are you, Luke? 20, right? And it is your third or fourth PH/PS cycle you are about to start? :p

Supermans Daddy
09-14-2004, 10:21 PM
That being said, how is it that Arnold juiced since he was 15 and didn't seem to have any problems? He did pump out four kids, after all. Did he just luck out? No he did not just luck out.From what I've read and been told , He went to have some serious medical shit done to get his shit back together in order to have kids, that don't sound cute!
Now I don't intend to use steroids 'til I'm older mainly because they're hard to find and really expensive for a 16 year old. But I'll prolly use some pro-hromones right around my 17th brithday. What I'm wondering is is it really all that dangerous compared with a lot of other things teenagers do. I mean obviously taking steroids at 17 doesn't even compare too how bad you'd get messed up taking them at 13. People always say there will be "long term side effects" but no one ever seems to want to ellaborate, same goes for pro-hromones. Are you looking at a good chance of permanent infertility from taking pro hormones or steroids or is that only if you stay on way too long and cause a total shutdown? I'm just curious to know how it stacks up next to these kids that go out and get shit faced drunk twice a week at my age First, NO ONE knows what that fuck is gonna happen to anyone take'n PHs 10 or 15 yrs from now cus that shit ain't been in tha mix long enough to have some people who have used it that long, we already see'n that M1T is doin some shit to some folks and we just get'n tha party started believe dat! Plus Man ,At 17 yrs old, you still got titty milk on your breath and you talk'n bout juice'n! Juice them fuck'n school books and quit talk'n crazy youngblood!And BTW,any 13 yr old juice'n needs his muthafuck'n ass kicked , just like if he was drink'n or smoke'n. Dawg I can't even help it , I'm OLD SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peace n Love

Supermans Daddy
09-14-2004, 10:24 PM
It'll be interesting to see how long Ronnie Coleman lives. Dude is on some JUICE. About 20 minutes after he retires or stops juice'n ha ha ! Peace n love

Pirate!
09-15-2004, 04:50 AM
How old are you, Luke? 20, right? And it is your third or fourth PH/PS cycle you are about to start? :pI'm sorry. It looks like you just turned 21 this month. ;)

TrojanMan60563
09-15-2004, 04:58 AM
IMO steroids shouldn't be used until your 21-25 years old. Thats the age when your done growing and have reached peak natural hormone levels.

Purdue Power
09-15-2004, 07:02 AM
Ya, I started my first ph cycle when I was 20, so I was slightly too young. I havn't touched steroids at all, and as long as M1T is still legal, I don't see any need.

TrojanMan60563
09-15-2004, 10:45 AM
I took plan old Andro when it first came out and was huge. I was about 15-16 years old. I didn't get any results from it. At the time it was the big thing but after further research they found the capsuls were being destroyed before it got into the blood. Some small amount like 4% actually made it to the blood.

gr81
09-15-2004, 06:02 PM
First, NO ONE knows what that fuck is gonna happen to anyone take'n PHs 10 or 15 yrs from now cus that shit ain't been in tha mix long enough to have some people who have used it that long, we already see'n that M1T is doin some shit to some folks and we just get'n tha party started believe dat! Plus Man ,At 17 yrs old, you still got titty milk on your breath and you talk'n bout juice'n! Juice them fuck'n school books and quit talk'n crazy youngblood!And BTW,any 13 yr old juice'n needs his muthafuck'n ass kicked , just like if he was drink'n or smoke'n. Dawg I can't even help it , I'm OLD SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peace n Love


couldn't have said it better myself maYn.. lol

Randy
09-15-2004, 06:32 PM
Ya, I started my first ph cycle when I was 20, so I was slightly too young. I havn't touched steroids at all, and as long as M1T is still legal, I don't see any need.Purdue,

What are you talking about?, M1T is a steroid (A strong one at that) :laugh: :hehe:

gr81
09-15-2004, 06:54 PM
I WILL NOT POST FLASE INFORMATION TO LEAD OTHERS ASTRAY!

Randy
09-15-2004, 07:33 PM
Yes, otherwise know as PHS.

gr81
09-15-2004, 07:39 PM
wow, you know how to abbreviate.. incredible. Theres a difference between a Pro-steroid and a steroid, that was my point

Purdue Power
09-15-2004, 09:25 PM
Actually, it is a steroid. Pro-Steroids convert to steroids in the body. M1T is 1-test, and active compound that does not undergo convertion. What I mean is that there is no reason for me to go illegal for now.

Randy
09-15-2004, 09:46 PM
wow, you know how to abbreviate.. incredible. Theres a difference between a Pro-steroid and a steroid, that was my point
ha ha ha...... Dang and I thought GR might just get by with two entire posts without an insulting comment.. :laugh: :hehe: But being the dickhead he is, he just couldn't do it :).

Gr81.... MY POINT SIMPLY WAS THAT M1T IS A STEROID (PERIOD). :laugh:
If you want to pull out your "Impress the forum book on Steroids" and quote the scientific formula for it, go at it :laugh: :evil:

PreMier
09-15-2004, 10:04 PM
Actually, it is a steroid. Pro-Steroids convert to steroids in the body. M1T is 1-test, and active compound that does not undergo convertion. What I mean is that there is no reason for me to go illegal for now.

No. Pro-Hormones convert to steroids in the body. Pro-Streroids, are steroid precursors. M-1T is a 17aa precursor.

The g-man is correct, in its classification.
However, yes it is a steroid. There is a difference though.

TrojanMan60563
09-15-2004, 11:35 PM
to my knowlege 1-test is the hormone...not something that converts to the active hormone....so that would make it a hormone....if you classify hormones as steroids then its a steroid.....yeah that sounds about right.

Flex
09-16-2004, 03:34 AM
Pro hormone, hormone, prosteroid, steroid, call it whatever you wanna call it.
Alls i know is that M1T is NOTHING like the real juice.

Supermans Daddy
09-16-2004, 04:00 AM
ha ha ha...... Dang and I thought GR might just get by with two entire posts without an insulting comment.. But being the dickhead he is, he just couldn't do it Hey playa, You and tha G man been beef'n for long ass time, and I can dig it that y'all might have a differnce of opinion on say " EVERYTHING". But we all kinda on tha cool tip! 90% percent of tha post on this thread are from my personal homeboys. Ain't no need for that diss'n shit. This has become tha pimpest board on tha net to me, it ain't drama all tha fuck'n time. Randy chill time ,Dude it sometime seems like you be look'n to fuck wit G.You know y'all beef'n 24/7, and it ain't no secret that y'all don't groove together ,put down your insult book, GR put down your glock.

deeno
09-16-2004, 12:24 PM
i agree, lets stick to bbing, everyone is gonna have a difference of opinion, its learnin from shit and adding to ur knowledge...and yea thats another reason that this is the form to be on, cuz u dont see that shit here..lets keep it like that

Randy
09-16-2004, 12:31 PM
Hey playa, You and tha G man been beef'n for long ass time, and I can dig it that y'all might have a differnce of opinion on say " EVERYTHING". But we all kinda on tha cool tip! 90% percent of tha post on this thread are from my personal homeboys. Ain't no need for that diss'n shit. This has become tha pimpest board on tha net to me, it ain't drama all tha fuck'n time. Randy chill time ,Dude it sometime seems like you be look'n to fuck wit G.You know y'all beef'n 24/7, and it ain't no secret that y'all don't groove together ,put down your insult book, GR put down your glock.Mikhal,

Sorry buddy, but I suggest you read back in the thread to see who the initiator is. As always... the G man is the one who started this game of insults, as with most others. But you're right! I'm not going to waste my time with the little punk. But don't say I'm looking to "f$#%" with him. He brings that on himself brutha.

Peace :)

Supermans Daddy
09-16-2004, 12:51 PM
But you're right! I'm not going to waste my time with the little punk. But don't say I'm looking to "f$#%" with him. He brings that on himself brutha. Whatever Dawg ! But if you read what you just wrote, you should be able to feel me on why I say that it appears that you be look'n to keep that "bullshit flow'n". Now this time I did go back and look and Tha G man never called you outta your name. All that " punk" this and " dickhead" that, Pimp, you wrote that shit! I got no beef wit ya Homey, But I'm gonna keep it real. I know tha G man real good and thats my DAWG! I talk to tha muthafucka damn near everyday and I know for a fact that he ain't even bout all this drama, and I gotta believe that you bigger than this too. Man up Pimp, and knock this shit off. Let's kick this juice game and fuck tha rest. I remember when everybody was sweat'n me bout tha way I kick my flow, but some of tha real ones round here stood by me, I even think that you was one of em. So keep that same respect that you earned from me then and let this shit ride playa.This is a juice forum, we all drug addits here we can't handle this stress ha ha ha. :thumb: Peace n Love

Randy
09-16-2004, 01:06 PM
Mikhal,

Look what you just wrote brotha... You seem to be just trying to add fuel to the fiya :laugh: Obviously you're picking out my comments, but again the threads speak for themselves.You can clearly see who the initiator is here, and in most all other threads.. Who the hell cares whether he didn't call me dickhead, he still fired off his common insults. Dude, an insult can come in many forms. Don't try signaling out my dickhead commment and say that was more aggressive :laugh: :hehe:

Now who are you Mikhal... Gr's mutha? :laugh: :hehe:
Another one steps out from the darkness from the GR bandwaggon in his quest to stand up for the that gets off on insulting others. There Mikhal...I didn't use the "D" word. Was that softer for your ears? :laugh: :hehe:

Peace and Love

Supermans Daddy
09-16-2004, 01:17 PM
Now who are you Mikal... Gr's mutha? You feel betta now Homey? You do your thang playboy! I'm sorry that's all you got outta my last post. BTW you spelled my hook up wrong pimp, if you gonna dis me get my shit right! ha ha ha This is just somethin I was schooled on maybe it'll make sense to ya , " in order to dis another man, you first gotta dis yourself". Marinade on that a minute. You be cool pimp! Peace n Love

Randy
09-16-2004, 01:22 PM
My deepest apologies Homey for the typo.
For the record, "Mikhal" the correction has been applied. :D

As for the dissing, I dis myself everyday for ever reading GR81's insulting comments. But Deep down inside I know.... He can't help it. :laugh: :evil:

Be Kewl... Peace and Love

ZECH
09-17-2004, 12:52 PM
Actually, it is a steroid. Pro-Steroids convert to steroids in the body.
CORRECT! :thumb:

Pirate!
09-17-2004, 09:21 PM
I am pro-steroid. M1T is a steroid--as are many hormones. However, not all steroids are hormones. A steroid is a type of lipid characterized by a carbon skeleton consisting of four rings with various functional groups attached. The function performed by any steroid is determined by what functional groups are attached at what parts of the carbon skeleton.

CRASHMAN
09-20-2004, 12:27 AM
This is why PH's are getting banned

insaneayala
05-18-2005, 06:39 PM
if you take m-1t or d-bol will you pass the test or fail it?

gococksDJS
05-18-2005, 06:43 PM
if you take m-1t or d-bol will you pass the test or fail it? Man, when I was on dbol I failed a biology test, so you will fail all tests.

GSXR750
05-18-2005, 06:47 PM
Ha. WTF!