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Ryan-Boro said:whats the mildest oral steroid to the liver or are they all really harsh on it?
the supplier has ran out of injectables and only has orals available, which is the best one to take alongside winstrol?
You know a lot of shit man. And I brag to my friends about my bodybuilding knowledge.LAM said:any oral steroid that is not c17 alpha alkalated is less toxic to the liver. so technically they are less hepatoxic. there are not many the only ones I can think of are masteron, oral primo, proviron and possible furazobol. however since they are not c17 that makes the oral bioavailibity lower so the dosages have to be increased to compensate.
LAM said:any oral steroid that is not c17 alpha alkalated is less toxic to the liver. so technically they are less hepatoxic. there are not many the only ones I can think of are masteron, oral primo, proviron and possible furazobol. however since they are not c17 that makes the oral bioavailibity lower so the dosages have to be increased to compensate.
I might be wrong here, but I thought Andriol was supposedly absorbed by the lymphatic system before encountering the liver while anadrol was very hepatotoxic.TrojanMan60563 said:I think Andriol can be added to that list.
PirateFromHell said:I like oral 1-T for a mild oral. You have to have a good delivery system, though. 300 mg/day of 1-T estergels works well in a stack for hardening, IMO. 300-500 mg/day of 1-TU from Nutrex would help, as well.
TrojanMan60563 said:I agree about the 1-TU from Nutrex.....can I drive up to Canada and still legally buy it? Its on the expensive side thats why I didn't stock up....of the prosteroid/prohormone stuff Nutrex's 1-TU takes the cake for me. Very low sides and great strength and size gains when I ran it for 6 weeks.
Ryan-Boro said:im looking to gain mass and strength, i am getting injectable deca, i have a low BF% so was adv on winstrol orals to harden my muscles and keep water retention down.is this ok,if not,what should i take alongside injectable deca for best results?
How much did you use? I have a bottle I'm going to throw in my next cycle plans.TrojanMan60563 said:I agree about the 1-TU from Nutrex.
LAM said:deca is crap for strength. all you need is to run test for 500 mg/wk for weeks 1-10 and winstrol @ 100 mg/ED weeks for the last 4-5 weeks.
I was under the impression that it was better for nitrogen retention than for overall strength gains, but im not sure, ive never used it.young d said:i thought deca was pretty good for strength? and its also good for your joints (which might help counter act the effects of the winstrol?), the only thing stopping me from adding deca to my 1st cycle is the fear of limpdick, how common is it for people to experience problems at say 400mg/wk?
PirateFromHell said:How much did you use? I have a bottle I'm going to throw in my next cycle plans.
young d said:i thought deca was pretty good for strength?
LAM said:deca is primarily and anabolic compound it has a very low androgenic effect.
remember, anabolics for muscle growth and androgens for strength
young d said:i thought deca was pretty good for strength?
Mudge said:No way, tren, halo, winny, anadrol, cheque drops, and to some degree anavar
Ryan-Boro said:this is gona sound real stupid but im not fully up to scratch with all the steroid jargon,but what exactly is test?could u list some of the correct names for test please.
is sustanon test?
thanx