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Mags
08-07-2005, 01:02 PM
just curious as to why everyone tends to advise test cyp/prop/enan etc for a first cycle and not much else? Cheers.

SJ69
08-07-2005, 02:00 PM
If you run Test and d-bol and Deca then you may ask yourself "Where did the gyno come from? is it the test? the d-bol? progesterone induced from the deca?
What about the size did that come from the test or the deca? Why is the recovery going so badly? etc
Do the test, then you know how your body reacts to Test, which will most likely be the base of all of your future cycles.

Mudge
08-07-2005, 03:03 PM
Are you a man or a woman? What is wrong with testosterone that you dont want it?

Tough Old Man
08-07-2005, 03:19 PM
I don't believe he has a problem with test, just wants to know why Test only and not Deca, Eq or some oral for 1st cycle or maybe even why not a stack of some type.

Test is a base for all steroid cycles. Your first cyce you need to find out how you react to steroids. This can be done on 500mg/ew of test. Orals are hardest on your system. You also need to see how you respond to recovery when exiting steroids.

It's just the best base you'll find and is just one of several reasons why Test only is recommended for a first time user. There also a lot of people who develope gyno for steroids. Test may be one of the better steroids with less chances of gyno then say deca or others.

Just make test you base for your 1st cycle and see how you react. If you diet is good, test onlywill get you to the next level.

Most of us who cycle started with x # amount of steroids and as we further develope have probably added more and more steroids to help us futher progress. If you started out with several stacks in high dosages and got stuck with no more gains, where would you go from there. How much more are you willing to take to futher achieve even more results.
So take it easy on the first cycle and go from there.

PT


Are you a man or a woman? What is wrong with testosterone that you dont want it?

Mudge
08-07-2005, 03:44 PM
Everything suppresses testosterone, so why be left with the testosterone of a 12 year old girl on cycle?

musclepump
08-07-2005, 04:42 PM
If you start with big doses, you'll have to use more in the future, and more after that, more after that, etc... You start small, and don't need to double up, because a first cycle is going to give you big gains on small amounts. Your body isn't limitless, why waste gear and cause yourself to become immune to certain doses?