Dan Duchaine's Theory of post AR mediated growth

I am in the process of wrapping up a short 8 week bulker. I've always been interested in Duchaine's Theory of Post AR Mediated Growth and what I understand of it, that I tried it during this cycle. However, I'm not a reckless Duchaine. Much time and energy went into researching every possible aspect of this cycle theory. I am not afraid of being a guinea pig as long as I'm an informed guinea pig. For those of you who don't know, Duchaine's Theory states that at supraphysiological levels of AAS (especially test) another growth pathway opens. This is achieved by reaching levels of 4g-10g of AAS per week. Unfortunately the theory is somewhat incomplete. I say this because even though Duchaine tested this many times, he died before he had a chance to get his entire theory in writing. Information is very hard to find and the biochemistry behind the new pathway can't be found (at least I can't find it). IMO this is not what killed him although after doing it hundreds of times it certainly could have been a factor. I think what ultimately killed Duchaine is the fact that he was the world's best AAS/performance enhancing drug guinea pig. Finally things caught up with him and may he rest in peace.

Anyway, I decided to give this theory a simple test. After gathering all the research I possibly could, studying, talking with other bbers, etc, I began my experiment. My 8 week bulker was run as a standard pyramid with the middle four weeks at supraphysiological levels. I quickly ramped up to the dosages I took and then quickly came back down. I'm currently in week 8 preparing for PCT.

During the middle 4 weeks my dosages were as follows: 2.5g test enan/week, 1g sust/week, 800mg deca/week, 150mg finaprop EOD, and 50mg dbol ED. Approx 4.5-5g of AAS per week.

Results: IMO there is another growth pathway that exists at huge levels of AAS administration. My receptors had to have been supersaturated, yet my gains were incredible. For instance at week 5, I was up 35lbs. On week six I started T3 and will run it through week 9. Right now at week 8 I'm up 45lbs, and I'm continuing to grow albeit slower because of the fat burning of T3 and my down ramp.

Thoughts: I'm 100% positive that there is another growth pathway involved with high AAS administration. The short 4 week "super" cycle was hard on my body but not as hard as I expected it to be. My only side was an increase in my BP top number occasionally, which would not be uncommon under the load I was taking. I will shortly add all my ancies, supps, etc which I know helped keep everything together. I'm trying to get this all down so the bbing community has it. I wish I knew more about the biochemical pathways of the body. I'm certain the new pathway opens due to dose. I wish I could explain how the new pathway works. I wish I could explain what comprises the pathway. In the future, I would not be opposed to running this again with similar AAS (maybe a few changes) for a longer period of time. I'd like to run for 8 consecutive weeks at 6-7g per week with an up ramp and a down ramp. I'd like to run for 16 weeks. However I will not be doing another for quite sometime to let my body readjust. Currently I will still cycle, but not using Duchaine's theory (much lower dosages). I would like to wait at least 9-12 months before attempting this again. I will get blood work done this time every week. I also would like your guys'/gals' help. I need help finding a biochemical engineer or a biomedical engineer, etc who is familiar with AAS that would be interested in tracking progress during my next "super" cycle. I would like to find out and explain this new pathway.

Ancies/Supplements: During my entire cycle here are the ancies, supps, etc I'm taking (I will not include PCT because it will be pretty standard with the addition of cortisol suppression--Cymbalta (duloxetine hcl), Nolva, Femera, Remeron, Clomid, HCG, Proviron, tribus, and ZMA plus reg supps, etc): Femera 1.25mg EOD, Finasteride .5-1mg ED, Inj L-Carnitine 400mg ED, Inj Tripart 100mg ED, Inj B-Complex 38mg ED, Inj Adequan 20mg E7D, T3 25mcg weeks 6-9 with dosages adusted by BBT, Synth Gugglesterones one week (10), Cranberry juice, water, Crystal Light, Gatorade, Powerade, Glucosamine/Chondroitin 1000mg, MSM 1000mg, r-ALA 250mg 2x/day, ALCAR 450mg 2x/day, Green Tea Extract 450mg, ON Whey, Micronized Creatine, Glutamine, Glutamine peptides, Taurine 450mg 2x/day, L-Arginine 450mg 2x/day, Chromium Picolinate 200mcg, Milk Thistle 450mg, Liv-52 250mg 2x/day, Super Omega 3, 6, 9 EFAs 4000IU 2x/day, zinc 50mg 2x/day, multivit, vit c 500mg 2x/day, vit e 400IU, acidolopholous 6mg 2x/day, zanaflex 4-8mg, ultram 150mg, and HCG 250IU 2x per week.

If you have any questions feel free to ask. Also feel free to provide any and all types of feedback, etc. AND if you know of a biochemist, biomedical engineer, etc who would be interested or are a biochemist, biomedical engineer, etc I would be much obliged.


And here are the results:

I had to extend my downramp by four weeks because the body adjustment is just too much. So I ran my last four weeks with just test prop and tren ace.

Please DO NOT try this if you're a newbie or on your fifth cycle, etc, etc. This is my xxx cycle (lost count), and I went in very prepared, and I'm coming out very prepared. A great deal of research and time went into the planning and running of this cycle.

Must add bros that yes, I admit it, I did also run a little Cialis just to see what would happen during my peaks..........Jesus. All I can say is you better have multiple nymphos around at your beck and call because one nympho's (and I don't care how much of a nympho she is) accessible holes are eventually going to get tired. I'm dead serious. Either that or have a fun time punching holes in the wall or beating it to a bloody stump.

Results in total:

Gross weight gain: 45lbs
Net weight gain: 25lbs (this includes a four week T3 cycle within the bulk cycle)

I had the following tests run after PCT. All were normal with the exception of cortisol which was low (exactly where I wanted it).

Here are the tests:
Total Cortisol
DHEA Sulfate
IGF-1
IGFBP-3
Free T3
Free T4
TSH
Total Test
Free Test
Weakly Bound Test
Hemoglobin A1C
Fasting Insulin
CBC
CMP
Lipid Panel
GGT
PSA

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Tough Old Man said:

I have a friend who takes in around 4.5 grams a week for 16 weeks when he is bulking. You'd love to have his size. 5'10" tall, 255 - 265 lbs, hugh chest and legs. really wide shoulders and 23" arms to go with it all. B/F around 12%. Age 30

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Tough Old Man said:

I have a friend who takes in around 4.5 grams a week for 16 weeks when he is bulking. You'd love to have his size. 5'10" tall, 255 - 265 lbs, hugh chest and legs. really wide shoulders and 23" arms to go with it all. B/F around 12%. Age 30

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PirateFromHell said:

I believe few people would want to be that weight at that height. I certainly wouldn't. Most chicks don't dig freaks, either.

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Mags said:

As impressive as his size is (come on guys, its great when you see a freak, just massive is cool!) I agree with Pirate, he's just too damn small. Yeah, i'd love to get big but not to the point I was wider than I was tall and looked like a looney tune character after a giant anvil had squashed him etc. I say tall and massive.

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PWGriffin said:

So do you think it will be harder for me to compete in the future since I'm only 5'10"??

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gococksDJS said:

Most bodybuilders are fairly short. Johnny Jackson is something like 5'8" and Jay Cutler is 5'9" I think. Generally it's easier for a shorter person to look more muscular because their limbs and torso aren't as long as a tall person. Plus tall people have a longer range of motion. Think about the law of conservation of mass in terms of a ball of yarn. Whether in a ball, or completely stretched out, it's the same amount of yarn, but the ball looks bigger due to it's size being closer to equal in all three dimensions rather than much larger in one and smaller in the other two like if you unrolled it all. The same visual paradox can be applied to muscle. If a tall guy carries the same amount of muscle as a short guy, the shorter guy will look more muscular.

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PWGriffin said:

That's what I was thinking...cutler is a monster BTW...right now I'm 202 as of tonight, only eight pounds from goal and I'm only four weeks into this cycle. Don't know why but I can put on stupid amounts of weight in short periods of time considering the very low dosages I'm playing around with. 23lbs in 8 wks of test E @250mgs E5D. I mean, that is pretty good right? I'm thinking two or three more years and I'll be ready for my first amateur show hopefully.

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PWGriffin said:

That's what I was thinking...cutler is a monster BTW...right now I'm 202 as of tonight, only eight pounds from goal and I'm only four weeks into this cycle. Don't know why but I can put on stupid amounts of weight in short periods of time considering the very low dosages I'm playing around with. 23lbs in 8 wks of test E @250mgs E5D. I mean, that is pretty good right? I'm thinking two or three more years and I'll be ready for my first amateur show hopefully.

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gococksDJS said:

I put on 35lbs on my first cycle, but it was a dirty bulk and I had to cut for a long time to get back to my desired bf%. I won't bulk like that again, that's for sure. It was fun knowing I was 5'9" and 216lbs, but I had to cut back down big time, and am now at about 203-205.

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PWGriffin said:

I wonder if I had done like so many recommend here and taken 500mgs a week instead of 250, would I have seen gains like that.

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