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exoticj
12-05-2005, 02:02 PM
:hmmm: I hope this isnt a stupid question??How many mg are in one ml of deca?

GFR
12-05-2005, 02:05 PM
:hmmm: I hope this isnt a stupid question??How many mg are in one ml of deca?

exoticj
12-05-2005, 02:28 PM
:wave: I actually havent recieved it yet.also would test 250 and eq be a good stack. I also considered sust and eq???? Thanks ppl

dougnukem
12-05-2005, 02:30 PM
Try this website:

www.onlineconversion.com

GFR
12-05-2005, 02:32 PM
:wave: I actually havent recieved it yet.also would test 250 and eq be a good stack. I also considered sust and eq???? Thanks ppl
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exoticj
12-05-2005, 02:40 PM
25yrs, 5"11, 165lbs male. I have used 10cc of sust,20 cc of deca and 10 of eq.Its been a while and about 15lbs ago.Im in great shape,I work out 5 nights a week,and need my edge back. I want to do it right this time:thumb: WHAT DO YOU GUYS SUGGEST

NeilPearson
12-05-2005, 02:45 PM
:hmmm: I hope this isnt a stupid question??How many mg are in one ml of deca?

It isn't a standard conversion. mg is a measure of mass and ml is a measure of volume. It all depends on how dense deca is.

For reference 1 ml of water weighs 1 gram so 1 ml of water weighs 1000 mg

1 litre of water = 1 kg

largepkg
12-05-2005, 02:53 PM
25yrs, 5"11, 165lbs male. I have used 10cc of sust,20 cc of deca and 10 of eq.Its been a while and about 15lbs ago.Im in great shape,I work out 5 nights a week,and need my edge back. I want to do it right this time:thumb: WHAT DO YOU GUYS SUGGEST

Why do you want to start AAS? I'm usually not one to say this but @ 5'11'' 165lbs it would seem you're no where close to being ready for juice. You should be able to add at least 10-20lbs in a short period of time clean.

exoticj
12-05-2005, 03:00 PM
when I started working out naturally two years ago I weighed 135lbs.Im about 10lbs from my peak at best from my observations ive made.I eat right,get sleep,and the whole nine yards.Its time for an edge.:hot:

Stu
12-05-2005, 03:04 PM
i seriously doubt you are 10lbs from your peak! Im sorry to say but 165lb @ 5'11 is way below average for natural guys.

GFR
12-05-2005, 03:05 PM
It takes 4-5 years to hit your natural limit. At 5'11' and only 165 you are not even close to it yet. You can do what you want but don't kid yourself.

exoticj
12-05-2005, 03:26 PM
it shouldnt hurt to speed up the process would it.Im talking low to moderate amounts?

GFR
12-05-2005, 03:29 PM
it shouldnt hurt to speed up the process would it.Im talking low to moderate amounts?
If you really 25 then who gives a fuck just do it if you want.....but if you are 19 or less then you are a huge dumb fuck.

so here is what you do.

week 1-8 Test E or C 250mg 2x a week ( total of 500mg a week)

PCT 14 days after last shot.

GFR
12-05-2005, 03:30 PM
If you don't gain 20+lbs from that cycle then you didnt eat right.

exoticj
12-05-2005, 03:36 PM
yup Im 25.I just need some good advice guys thats all.I dont want to fuck up.ya know

redflash
12-05-2005, 03:41 PM
Foremanrules, is that 20+lbs of lean body mass? Which with the right PCT etc you can keep? Shit, if so, I've gotta get me some test.... just once.

GFR
12-05-2005, 03:46 PM
Foremanrules, is that 20+lbs of lean body mass? Which with the right PCT etc you can keep? Shit, if so, I've gotta get me some test.... just once.
15-20 lean mass depending on diet and training.

Pirate!
12-05-2005, 03:53 PM
15-20 lean mass depending on diet and training.For most, results like this usually only come on the first cycle. FormanRules is always an exception to the rule, though. ;)

redflash
12-05-2005, 03:57 PM
I think everyone on the board needs take account of body type when commenting on weight etc - ectomorph (naturally skinny), mesomorph (naturally muscular), endomorph (naturally fat).

When I was in my twenties, I trained 3 days out of 4, ate huge including four pints of milk a day on top of everything else, and went from 140lbs to 160lbs in several years. In bodytype terms, I'm basically an ectomorph - skinny guy, burns calories watching TV, small wrists, small waist, no problem getting cut (cut all year round!) but can't gain mass. Shit, I started out with a 35" chest and was 42" at my biggest (when I competed and won local stuff); with a 31" waist by the way, 16" arms.

I worked my balls off naturally for 3-4 years before taking low dose safe gear (Deca, Primo) to compete. And all the time I saw these guys coming into the gym, not eating right, not training right, and not on the gear, packing on pounds of muscle. Made me sick.

I don't know whether we need to talk about %bodyweight gains rather than straight pounds or what, but when people keep posting that folk should be able to put 20lbs on naturally in a few months and I know it took 3-4 years of hard training for me to do that, it just feels like guys are generalising from their own experience and not taking into account body types.

Does that help anyone? Hell, I feel better for saying it.

(And that's not aimed at Foremanrules who keeps patiently advising new posters on the site, by the way - it's just a general whinge...)

Flash

GFR
12-05-2005, 04:03 PM
For most, results like this usually only come on the first cycle. FormanRules is always an exception to the rule, though. ;)
This is his first cycle;)

exoticj
12-05-2005, 04:14 PM
I appreciate your honesty foremanrules.:rocker: my build is a 30inch waste 40 or 42 n shoulders.It just seems so slow for me to gain.as redflash said,I see guys that eat whatever and stay out all night drinking putting on more muscle than me.And the worst part is Im dedicated.:mad:

exoticj
12-05-2005, 04:27 PM
:wave: Foremanrules....I know i sound like a dumb ass but how many ml or cc of test to get the 500mg per week. Like say I'm using test 250. is that 250mg per cc??? and could I stack equipoise,how would it help.I was told it would help cut a little.If I cant get my hands on nolvadex what else will work?? Thanks again.

GFR
12-05-2005, 04:40 PM
:wave: Foremanrules....I know i sound like a dumb ass but how many ml or cc of test to get the 500mg per week. Like say I'm using test 250. is that 250mg per cc??? and could I stack equipoise,how would it help.I was told it would help cut a little.If I cant get my hands on nolvadex what else will work?? Thanks again.
test 250 is 250mg for 1 cc

Tough Old Man
12-05-2005, 04:52 PM
On the Vial it should read Deca 300 or Deca 200 ect. That means that each CC or ML is that strength. So if it says Deca 300, then one shot will be 300 mgs. If it's a 10 ml vial, then you would have a total of 3000 mgs in that vial if it's Deca 300.

So figure it this way. If you wanted to do 8 weeks of deca at 450 mg of deca 300, You would need 8 x 450 or 3600. Like explained above, your vial would only contain 3000. So you would need two 10 ml vials of the Deca 300. So you would use all of 1 viak and 2 ml from the 2nd vial.

PWGriffin
12-05-2005, 05:12 PM
25yrs, 5"11, 165lbs male. I have used 10cc of sust,20 cc of deca and 10 of eq.Its been a while and about 15lbs ago.Im in great shape,I work out 5 nights a week,and need my edge back. I want to do it right this time:thumb: WHAT DO YOU GUYS SUGGEST

Unless I'm not reading this right, it's not his first cycle foreman....not that he shouldn't use ur formula anyway...I'm prolly gonna get back to basics on my next cycle too...