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Dave18
04-20-2007, 01:39 AM
is M1T a Steroid? :bulb:

tucker01
04-20-2007, 03:34 AM
Yes.

Pirate!
04-20-2007, 07:34 AM
Yes. It's a very potent steroid.

Mags
04-20-2007, 09:25 AM
Potent as in shut-down or growth?

zombul
04-20-2007, 09:40 AM
is M1T a Steroid? :bulb:

And it is now banned.:( It went out with 1AD a few years back.

NordicNacho
04-20-2007, 09:52 AM
i heard it was really harsh

DOMS
04-20-2007, 10:04 AM
Potent as in shut-down or growth?

Both. AKAIK, it's the strongest oral that's out there.

NordicNacho
04-20-2007, 10:13 AM
This on works good but it even harsher

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DrnkMnky
04-20-2007, 11:23 AM
Potent as in shut-down or growth?


Potent in shutdown, growth, and very harsh.

BigDyl
04-20-2007, 01:10 PM
Both. AKAIK, it's the strongest oral that's out there.

Maybe strongest designer methyl, but not "strongest oral."

DOMS
04-20-2007, 01:11 PM
Maybe strongest designer methyl, but not "strongest oral."

True story. :)

JerseyDevil
04-20-2007, 01:33 PM
Maybe strongest designer methyl, but not "strongest oral."Well put. I responded very well to M1t, but even better to dianabol. Never tried anadrol.

Pirate!
04-21-2007, 07:09 AM
Potent as in shut-down or growth?

Both, really. 5-10 mg goes a long way.

BigDyl
04-21-2007, 08:13 AM
True story. :)

:mad:

Mags
04-23-2007, 05:12 AM
I'm currently on M1T at present. Only been on it for a nearly a week, but I feel it's having an effect. Whether this is just psychological or not, I don't know, but it's helping nonetheless.

I'm running Milk thistle with it, and have Nolva as part of my pct, but what would you guys suggest (other than HCG) I use to boost my HPTA back up after I'm off? I was thinking Instones Forza-T etc.

What do you guys think?

Cheers

Pirate!
04-23-2007, 05:48 AM
Toremifene. It's like Miracle Grow for the nads.

NordicNacho
04-23-2007, 09:27 AM
Toremifene. It's like Miracle Grow for the nads.
:roflmao: :roflmao:

Mags
04-24-2007, 04:04 AM
Is Toremifene just another anti-estrogenic? I thought it worked the same way as Nolva. I know Estrogen levels and Test levels tend to stay in balance as one increases or decreases, but don't these AE's just block the estrogen, but do nothing to boost natural testosterone?

I have Nolva for my PCT to sort the estrogen, but I thought that was only half the problem solved. I thought I'd need something else to therefore bring up the natural test production whilst the Nolva does it's job. This is why I assumed something like Forza-T or any other strong Tribulus Terrestis type supplement may do the trick.

Is this correct, or have I got my wires crossed?

Pirate!
04-24-2007, 06:29 AM
By blocking the estrogen receptor, the negative feeback is mitigated, thus resulting in an increase of GnRH and subsequent bost in LH. It's very similar to nolva, but more effective for this purpose.

Good Read on Toremifene (http://www.ironforlife.com/t24085-toremifene-citrate--fareston.html)

Mags
04-24-2007, 06:31 AM
Oh right, cheers. Is it worth running that as well as Nolva or instead of it?

Mags
04-24-2007, 07:48 AM
After reading your link, I'm guessing to use it instead of Nolva. Will Toremifene be more effective than commercial test boosters currently on the market?

Cheers.