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Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
Overhead presses of any kind require the use of the pec minor (which is NOT the "upper chest")
Finally, you can train chest and delts on the same day like I do right now...
I'm not going to argue either...LOL
But let's not overlook the clavicular head of the pectoralis major either
Originally posted by askjoe
Chest and shoulders are highly integrated muscles - I'd try to work them the same day that way you avoid overtraining. A good rule of thumb to follow is to do all your "push" muscles one day; all your "pull" muscles the next; and leave your legs all to the last day. I feel this is the best way to workout because it avoids overtraining.
Originally posted by P-funk
I was wondering, if you train your chest and delts on the same day (assuming that you hit chest first and shoulders second) do you even bother doing any overhead press? If so don't you find it difficult to lift heavy on the overhead presses?
Most of the time I DO hit chest and delts on the same day. I do not even bother with overhead presses and just concentrate on the medial and posterior heads. I utilize lateral of various types and upright rows. I feel tha the anterior head is hit so hard with chest exercises, that it rarely needs any more attention. Sine I started doing this there has been a marked level of improvement in both the size and shape of my delts
Originally posted by P-funk
Thanks GP. I was waiting for you to chime in on this one.