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    Lee is one of my all time favorites and in the same realm as lee priest as far as height is concerned. However, great genes or not, he is not natural! I understand why he say's he's natural from a business standpoint. We all know that Jay Cutler didn't get his physique using strictly muscletech products! However, Your average skinny im getting sand kicked in my face newb actually believe that if you use these products they will get similar results! That would be a huge monetary loss for labrada nutrition if this portion of his sales were taken away!

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    probably stopped a huge cycle 3 weeks before the shoot.....

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    I think Ill claim natty status after every cycle....

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    I think its highly possible Lee is on TRT and does not want to admit it, but other than that he is not that big, its an illusion.

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    He's full of shit and with the whole "I'm a proponent of testing" seriously with that shit it's an I got mine fuck the new guys. I respect his hard work and how he looks but this line of bullshit is just like anyone else trying to make some more money it's still bullshit.

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    Couple things.

    Why does you care if he uses or not?

    He most likely peaked for these photo's to look his best.
    And when someone can, they can look 10 x better when they are lean enough and now their body. Something Lee is was and does.

    I know that most non users who are top are pro's get blamed most of the time.


    Here I am peaked, and I looked about 15 pounds heavier. And I am and never would compare to Lee or anyone else. Just driving a point that for a short period of time you can look much different.

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    Yeah but look at his legs compared to your natural legs. You can tell he uses. We all understand why he say's he doesn't because he owns a nutrition company. We all know the pro's it's 90% drug's that make them look big.

    At the minimum he is on a high dose of TRT. Cause at 51 no way your packing on any muscle like that. I'm sure he uses other drug's that are not "anabolic's" that make him look like that as well. But his nutrition company sure as hell don't sell them. That is the biggest lie in the bb industry. The supplement companies trying to sell you shit with a pic of huge dudes on roids.


    They should have a disclaimer at the bottom:

    Result's may vary. The pictures shown here are not the result's from actual product shown. Hell, the guy in that pic never took them to look like that! But we won't tell you that. Why, we want to make some money! That mofo in the pic is on dbol, test, deca, and some other shit. peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdtrain View Post

    this is what natural bbing looks like, got it guys
    Yessir. You don't have vein's popping out everywhere natural brotha. Look at the WFBB world's that was last month. NONE of those guy's was that vascular and there were 100's of natural competitor's there. At they were at 4-5% bodyfat.

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    There should be a ban list of drug's at the pro level though. Take out insulin and GH to start. I mean look how much it helped PHil to beat Jay. Just a few short year's Phil blew up on abusing slin. Is that real muscle? Not having a ban list promotes ABUSE of drug's. There is a difference in keeping test levels a little elevated and abusing test by taking 4 gram's a week. We should be concerned for the Athletes health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdtrain View Post

    this is what natural bbing looks like, got it guys
    I'll even call BS on that one. Everyone knows these photo guys take Var or T bol before shoots, and just maintain till the next shoot.
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    On or not for 51 he looks great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder46 View Post
    On or not for 51 he looks great
    Absolutely, whatever he's doing at 51, besides pushing the shit out of those weights is working.
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    Do I care if he's on or not? NO.
    Does he look crazy shredded? YES.

    Do I think he uses gear? OF COURSE STUPID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts View Post
    Do I care if he's on or not? NO.
    Does he look crazy shredded? YES.

    Do I think he uses gear? OF COURSE STUPID.


    Hell yea, I aspire to look like this at 51.

    even 60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BP2000 View Post
    There should be a ban list of drug's at the pro level though. Take out insulin and GH to start. I mean look how much it helped PHil to beat Jay. Just a few short year's Phil blew up on abusing slin. Is that real muscle? Not having a ban list promotes ABUSE of drug's. There is a difference in keeping test levels a little elevated and abusing test by taking 4 gram's a week. We should be concerned for the Athletes health.
    The pro's arent athletes, not even close.
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    I'm a natural competitor as well, so I don't know much about drug use... but doesn't muscle memory play a role here? Whether he gained his lbs naturally or not, if he tries to get it back at a later age, it should be possible with peak nutrition and genetics. Obviously the greats in the IFBB are genetically gifted, so you know he has that in his corner. And I'm sure his nutrition is spot on.

    I agree his vascularity is sick, but if he gained it back during his geared days, why would he not still have it? And hell, look at Levrone as another example. Sure he is a bit younger, but I bet his hormones are just as F'd as Lee's at this point. He has had a pretty good natural comeback in the last year or so, I forget when he actually started the Levrone Report.

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    bro u can't build muscle like that at 50. Especially if you have used steriods in your younger year's. Your natty level's would be in the dump's. He most likely is on TRT but doesn't say it. So it's not straight talk.

    Straight talk would be him saying " I'm on a dose of test but not as high as I used when competing. This combined with hard work and proper nutrition got me back in good shape."

    I don't care if he's on TRT. Hell when I turn 50 I'll be on it too.

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    I'm ordering all labrada products right now, who needs gear lmao

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    Guy's on loads of gear, evident by ridiculous mass, conditioning, and vascularity, and the fact that he's 50 and used to use should be the nail in the coffin on that debate.

    My beef with this is that I love bodybuilding for the fact that it's the most hard core balls to the wall sacrifice oriented sport there is. If a guy wants to hit a goal so badly that he would put his body through absolute hell and put his life on the line this is the game he can do it in, and I absolutely love bodybuilding for that. FUCK everyone who's trying to take the freedom out of it. And if you've got good genetics you have even less of an excuse to judge how much shit everyone else is using. Nuff said!

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