Thread: Phil and Kai 2012 O Pics-side by side

never seen it so close

Both are beast! Congrats to Phil, but I wish Kai wold have won...

One point separated the two! Rhoden is unreal to have held condition and got fuller after PBW and Europa shows. Chris Aceto did a awesome job.

1 point! WOW! I wish I could have stayed up and watched the whole thing. I'll be watching the replay for sure!

if kai's traps were on par it would have been his

I also noticed he had sloping shoulders and looked depressed when relaxed

nit picky but true

He faded at night when they brought the top 6 into a pose down. Phil was ready to battle him and you could tell Kai wasn't ready to battle. They had ice packs on Kai right after they went into the crowd. I could tell Kai was fading when they brought them back for placings. I think Phil mentally beat him as well...

Kai is my man but phil just has that flex wheeler levrone body which is impossible to beat unless your name is ron coleman. I give it uo to both of them phil for killing it and kai for making neccesary improvements to push him over the edge, there both winners in my book. congrats on both

Wow that was close

Its a coin toss everywhere but the arms. Phil has EVERYONE, all day long, on his arms.

i don't like both of them and neither coleman, but it was a pretty close call, phil had better fuller biceps and triceps and deltoids,kai better chest and back, both are smooth an balooned lacking the feel of strenght behind what is supposed to be shredded muscles but both have good symmetry

phil was standing in front of the line the whole time... that's what kai was smiling about

kai should have won

Originally Posted by Standard Donkey

phil was standing in front of the line the whole time... that's what kai was smiling about

kai should have won

I noticed that too, phil wanted it more tho. Kai could have been a cheeky cunt but thats not kai. Phil also had the better physique that night.

Originally Posted by Intense

I noticed that too, phil wanted it more tho. Kai could have been a cheeky cunt but thats not kai. Phil also had the better physique that night.

idk man.. i feel like phil was beat in everything except arms and traps.. sure his waist is smaller, but kai's shoulders are wider

when you consider the amount of resources that phil has compared to kai, kai is definitely the better bodybuilder

I was there and IMO Kai beat Phil.

From these pics alone, I have to say that Kia was harder and had better lines then Phil.

That's 2 huge dudes! Holy shit...close contest indeed.

Kai was harder at pre judging but faded Saturday night and didn't have the energy to compete with Phil. IMO--in that O-- it could of went either way!

I thought Phil was unbeatable until seeing this show, I did not see prejudging but at the finals Kai was harder and has a more pleasing physique, e.g. smaller waist, better taper, better quads and hams.

the whole Mr O should be reconsidered: judges and judging criteria, it is a shame that after 30-40 years the level at the Mr O has dropped down while other sports have all advanced. there are even better Bodybuilders than that in the 60's.
something is going wrong in the whole system

Originally Posted by bjg

the whole Mr O should be reconsidered: judges and judging criteria, it is a shame that after 30-40 years the level at the Mr O has dropped down while other sports have all advanced. there are even better Bodybuilders than that in the 60's.
something is going wrong in the whole system

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Just kidding

Originally Posted by hypo_glycemic

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no really hypo i'm serious if look carefully you will agree with me

Originally Posted by bjg

no really hypo i'm serious if look carefully you will agree with me

I disagree. I'm not going to argue the "opinion"!

I have 2 friends on the judging panel. Take it up with Jim Manion

Originally Posted by hypo_glycemic

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Just kidding

I'm not. lol

NEGGED!

Originally Posted by Prince

I thought Phil was unbeatable until seeing this show, I did not see prejudging but at the finals Kai was harder and has a more pleasing physique, e.g. smaller waist, better taper, better quads and hams.

Agreed!

Originally Posted by Prince

I thought Phil was unbeatable until seeing this show, I did not see prejudging but at the finals Kai was harder and has a more pleasing physique, e.g. smaller waist, better taper, better quads and hams.

I agree, i honestly thought when they were announcing the winner that Kai's name would be called. I like Phil, but i think Kai deserved it and earned it. Glad i went, truly an awesome experience.

I was 10 rows back at pre judging. I had Kai ahead by a point or two.

At the night show, Kai faded as they sent the top 6 out to pose down and after that, his lower back developed a film to the lower insertions, as Phil got better as he posed. After they posed down, Kai went backstage and had ice packs on him from exhaustion. With that, Phil's attitude changed and he got aggressive and beat him! Phil's physique is a lot more pleasing to the eye. Kai was dug out, but again, he faded at night and that score counts a lot now. Shows are no longer won in pre judging and not won from the back anymore. It's the ability to make changes in 24 hours and come back harder and the stage presentation is huge. Kai looked tired and scared when Heath was bullying the judges and Kai. I talked to Shawn Ray and he felt the same way! Kai ran out of gas athletically

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