Mr Olympia predictions!

**gopro** · 10-01-2003, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by gr81
you absolutely can't compare those two pics above, Cutler is in good light, and flexed while ronnies has much worse lighting and is not posing, he is standing relaxed. Look at the side by sides from last year, thats how you compare. Cmon

Yeah, its so hard to compare by pics!

By the way, I hear that Ronnie is about 280-285 lbs right now and harder than EVER before! I think that if he competes at this weight he will be completely untouchable. He was at this weight on his UNBELIEVABLE video and looked inhuman!

**gopro** · 10-01-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Ahsan
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Thanks. I don't have a hotmail address though.

hardasnails1973 · 10-01-2003, 11:26 AM

TRue ,
big hard and inhuman but is it really worth it in the end ? all the pro guys that train under the guy I will be with that left him did get bigger, harder then almost died. One is done for ever !! Right now his guy is the hotest commodity on the body building market. TRainers ned to look at the health aspects rather then creating freaks !!

nikegurl · 10-01-2003, 11:46 AM

....but when you talk about the Mr. O it's about freaky, not healthy. (i'm not saying that's a good thing)

Ahsan · 10-01-2003, 11:56 AM

ya they want their atheletes 2 become mass monsters.

**gopro** · 10-02-2003, 09:50 AM

One day one of the pros will drop dead onstage during a show and THAT may help change things a bit...no, probably not.

**Prince** · 10-02-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by gopro
One day one of the pros will drop dead onstage during a show and THAT may help change things a bit...no, probably not.

that has already happened.

**gopro** · 10-02-2003, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Prince
that has already happened.

What IFBB pro dropped dead ONSTAGE??

Ahsan · 10-03-2003, 08:27 AM

yez
an ifbb pro died on stage
i thk people called him
"MOMO"
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can u guyz plz tell me whether i m ecto or meso. i m 6'1" 130 lbs. i ve been with the iron for the last three months. i gained 15 lbs in 2 months. before lifting i was 115.
my current measurements r
pecs : 37"
shouldrs : 41"
bi: 11"
waist : 27"
any suggestions i would appreciate.

**gopro** · 10-03-2003, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by Ahsan
yez
an ifbb pro died on stage
i thk people called him
"MOMO"

MOMO or Mohammed Beneziza did not die onstage, but later in his hotel room, after having just WON a contest hours earlier!
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can u guyz plz tell me whether i m ecto or meso. i m 6'1" 130 lbs. i ve been with the iron for the last three months. i gained 15 lbs in 2 months. before lifting i was 115.
my current measurements r
pecs : 37"
shouldrs : 41"
bi: 11"
waist : 27"
any suggestions i would appreciate.

Ahsan · 10-03-2003, 09:04 AM

plz tell me i m ecto or meso

**gopro** · 10-03-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by Ahsan
plz tell me i m ecto or meso

Impossible to determine without seeing you and even then it would only be a guess. I predict you are a natural ectomorph as you are skinny, but since you have been able to gain muscle you probably have some mesomorphic traits. Nobody is just ONE TYPE. We are combinations of two types usually.

Ahsan · 10-04-2003, 09:51 AM

ok gopro thx
so u wanna say that i m mixture of both types ok and i wanna say that in about 2 days i gain a pound so i ve both types. well my father is endo and my mom is meso. if i wanna get some training tips from u so what i ve to do. i want to make u my personal trainer.

firestorm · 10-04-2003, 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by gopro
Yes, the distension is due to enlarged viscera from GH, insulin, and steroids. Once you have it is is tough to ever reduce, but by cutting back on certain drugs there CAN be an improvement. Also, the gut distension can be "hidden" pretty well by controlling the stomach muscles, which some pros know how to do better than others. It is all about controlling your breathing and strengthening your transverse abdominals.

Also, Flex was only on small amounts of straight testosterone for his final Olympia...what he called a "therapeutic" dose. He did, however, go back to larger amounts earlier this year for the Ironman, where he placed third and started to look more like his former self. But, that is when the problems kicked back in and it was all over for Flex. He says his condition is genetic, as both of his parents have it, but in no way can you ignore his drug intake's effect on his kidneys.

As far as Ronnie goes...Chad Nichols, Ronnies nutritionist, and Tom Prince, IFBB pro, both say that Ronnie looks "ridiculous" right now and that they would be suprised if Ronnie got "one point scored off of him."

GP, thanks so much for all that in debth information. I owe you "another" one.

kbm8795 · 10-05-2003, 11:32 AM

Hi...I know I'm new here, and no big expert on details, but it seems to me that there really is a major chance Jay could take it from Ronnie. As amazing as Coleman is, and as much as the Olympia has appeared to favor the reigning champ, there have been a couple of times that the Sandow has gone to another man...most notably when Samir Bannout (Olympia 1983?) dropped to sixth place the next year (I think that was the beginning of Haney's rule). I also think things were really upset when a not-in-shape Arnold entered the '80 contest at the last minute, and apparently spoiled a showdown between Frank Zane and Mike Mentzer. I...know these are long ago contests, but I just mentioned them to show that there is never any real guarantee of ruling until retirement.
Still...and I might be way off-base about this....I felt like the Weider organ was giving Ronnie some warnings after that 2001 contest - especially when Gunter beat him at the GNC. And since Jay has signed up with the org., seems to be constantly in the spotlight, and has been copping the Arnold Classic title for two years without a Coleman challenge, it makes me wonder if an upset isn't in the works.
I had read somewhere that Ronnie hopes to rule until he equals the eight wins of Haney - but the field is getting pretty tough out there, and he's only gunning for number #6. In my mind, he's gonna have to be better than he ever was, PLUS fight being ten years older than Cutler....so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and list my choices as:

1. Jay
2. Ronnie
3. Chris or Dennis
4. Gunter
5. Chris or Dennis (just can't decide here)
6. maybe a surprise here - like Martinez?

moon · 10-05-2003, 11:49 AM

Ronnie's stomach is bulging..this is the only flaw i can see in his body....
he has a damned split abs...a rare one ...but unless he miraculously changed his tummy, he won't appear nice this time...

I can't wait the contest !!!

firestorm · 10-05-2003, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by kbm8795
Hi...I know I'm new here, and no big expert on details, but it seems to me that there really is a major chance Jay could take it from Ronnie. As amazing as Coleman is, and as much as the Olympia has appeared to favor the reigning champ, there have been a couple of times that the Sandow has gone to another man...most notably when Samir Bannout (Olympia 1983?) dropped to sixth place the next year (I think that was the beginning of Haney's rule). I also think things were really upset when a not-in-shape Arnold entered the '80 contest at the last minute, and apparently spoiled a showdown between Frank Zane and Mike Mentzer. I...know these are long ago contests, but I just mentioned them to show that there is never any real guarantee of ruling until retirement.
Still...and I might be way off-base about this....I felt like the Weider organ was giving Ronnie some warnings after that 2001 contest - especially when Gunter beat him at the GNC. And since Jay has signed up with the org., seems to be constantly in the spotlight, and has been copping the Arnold Classic title for two years without a Coleman challenge, it makes me wonder if an upset isn't in the works.
I had read somewhere that Ronnie hopes to rule until he equals the eight wins of Haney - but the field is getting pretty tough out there, and he's only gunning for number #6. In my mind, he's gonna have to be better than he ever was, PLUS fight being ten years older than Cutler....so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and list my choices as:

1. Jay
2. Ronnie
3. Chris or Dennis
4. Gunter
5. Chris or Dennis (just can't decide here)
6. maybe a surprise here - like Martinez?

HEY NEW GUY,,, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO COME HERE AND POST SUCH AN EXCELLENT POINT OF VIEW. YOUR ONLY SUPPOSED TO SIT BACK AND THINK SUCH WELL THOUGHT OUT RESPONSES!! HAHAHAHA Just kidding you bro. Excellent point of view and welcome to your Jungle.
Fire

**gopro** · 10-06-2003, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by firestorm
GP, thanks so much for all that in debth information. I owe you "another" one.

No problem FS! You know I love to help out my fellow lifter!

**gopro** · 10-06-2003, 10:09 AM

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Originally posted by kbm8795
Hi...I know I'm new here, and no big expert on details, but it seems to me that there really is a major chance Jay could take it from Ronnie. As amazing as Coleman is, and as much as the Olympia has appeared to favor the reigning champ, there have been a couple of times that the Sandow has gone to another man...most notably when Samir Bannout (Olympia 1983?) dropped to sixth place the next year (I think that was the beginning of Haney's rule). I also think things were really upset when a not-in-shape Arnold entered the '80 contest at the last minute, and apparently spoiled a showdown between Frank Zane and Mike Mentzer. I...know these are long ago contests, but I just mentioned them to show that there is never any real guarantee of ruling until retirement.
Still...and I might be way off-base about this....I felt like the Weider organ was giving Ronnie some warnings after that 2001 contest - especially when Gunter beat him at the GNC. And since Jay has signed up with the org., seems to be constantly in the spotlight, and has been copping the Arnold Classic title for two years without a Coleman challenge, it makes me wonder if an upset isn't in the works.
I had read somewhere that Ronnie hopes to rule until he equals the eight wins of Haney - but the field is getting pretty tough out there, and he's only gunning for number #6. In my mind, he's gonna have to be better than he ever was, PLUS fight being ten years older than Cutler....so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and list my choices as:

1. Jay
2. Ronnie
3. Chris or Dennis
4. Gunter
5. Chris or Dennis (just can't decide here)
6. maybe a surprise here - like Martinez?

Everything you say is true and you could be right about the results. Still, my prediction is that Ronnie will be unbeatable this year because that loss to Guntar and the recent criticism I believe fueled him to train harder than he ever has to regain and even surpass his best ever form. Still, that is just MY prediction and we all know that ANYTHING could happen that day! Can't wait!

**gopro** · 10-06-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by firestorm
HEY NEW GUY,,, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE TO COME HERE AND POST SUCH AN EXCELLENT POINT OF VIEW. YOUR ONLY SUPPOSED TO SIT BACK AND THINK SUCH WELL THOUGHT OUT RESPONSES!! HAHAHAHA Just kidding you bro. Excellent point of view and welcome to your Jungle.
Fire

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nikegurl · 10-06-2003, 10:31 AM

I like Cutler's physique the most by far...but I think Ronnie will win again.

kbm8795 · 10-06-2003, 03:18 PM

Thanks for the welcome, Firestorm....and Gopro....Ya know, I actually hope you end up being right about Ronnie hitting the stage in his best shape ever. If he can win and not retire for another year or two, it could make for a fierce contest season among a lot of new contenders next year and a chance to see a couple of others rise up to seriously challenge the Gunter/Cutler/Coleman trio by Olympia 2004. I can't wait to see how it all pans out myself this year - the best contests are always the ones where no one can afford to be sloppy.

No matter who wins, it's gonna be exciting - and they'll be even more anxious up there realizin' that Gopro is training and preparing to take over the crown! :-)

firestorm · 10-06-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by gopro
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hahahaha yea right GP, I have a way about me don't I???

firestorm · 10-06-2003, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by nikegurl
I like Cutler's physique the most by far...but I think Ronnie will win again.

Wow, that's cool NG, I like cutlers physique also!!! I also think Ronnie will win. Damn girl we think so much alike, I think we need to get married. Let me just divorce my wife and marry my 2 kids off then I'll mail you an engagement ring. hahahahaha

**gopro** · 10-06-2003, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by kbm8795

No matter who wins, it's gonna be exciting - and they'll be even more anxious up there realizin' that Gopro is training and preparing to take over the crown! :-)

Oh yeah, just as soon as I start my daily steroid/GH/insulin I.V. drip!

10-01-2003, 11:26 AM	#63
hardasnails1973 www.Bodyfactoryllc.com Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pa Posts: 1,740	TRue , big hard and inhuman but is it really worth it in the end ? all the pro guys that train under the guy I will be with that left him did get bigger, harder then almost died. One is done for ever !! Right now his guy is the hotest commodity on the body building market. TRainers ned to look at the health aspects rather then creating freaks !!
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10-01-2003, 11:46 AM	#64
nikegurl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LA, CA Posts: 5,635	....but when you talk about the Mr. O it's about freaky, not healthy. (i'm not saying that's a good thing)
	If you want to achieve things that others can't... You have to do things that others won't.

10-01-2003, 11:56 AM	#65
Ahsan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 333	ya they want their atheletes 2 become mass monsters.
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10-02-2003, 09:50 AM	#66
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,499	One day one of the pros will drop dead onstage during a show and THAT may help change things a bit...no, probably not.
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10-03-2003, 08:27 AM	#69
Ahsan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 333	yez an ifbb pro died on stage i thk people called him "MOMO" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ can u guyz plz tell me whether i m ecto or meso. i m 6'1" 130 lbs. i ve been with the iron for the last three months. i gained 15 lbs in 2 months. before lifting i was 115. my current measurements r pecs : 37" shouldrs : 41" bi: 11" waist : 27" any suggestions i would appreciate.
	ahsan www.svr06.com http://www.modchip.com/banner/mcani.gif

10-03-2003, 09:04 AM	#71
Ahsan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 333	plz tell me i m ecto or meso
	ahsan www.svr06.com http://www.modchip.com/banner/mcani.gif

10-04-2003, 09:51 AM	#73
Ahsan Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sydney Posts: 333	ok gopro thx so u wanna say that i m mixture of both types ok and i wanna say that in about 2 days i gain a pound so i ve both types. well my father is endo and my mom is meso. if i wanna get some training tips from u so what i ve to do. i want to make u my personal trainer.
	ahsan www.svr06.com http://www.modchip.com/banner/mcani.gif

10-05-2003, 11:32 AM	#75
kbm8795 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,367 Photos: 1	Hi...I know I'm new here, and no big expert on details, but it seems to me that there really is a major chance Jay could take it from Ronnie. As amazing as Coleman is, and as much as the Olympia has appeared to favor the reigning champ, there have been a couple of times that the Sandow has gone to another man...most notably when Samir Bannout (Olympia 1983?) dropped to sixth place the next year (I think that was the beginning of Haney's rule). I also think things were really upset when a not-in-shape Arnold entered the '80 contest at the last minute, and apparently spoiled a showdown between Frank Zane and Mike Mentzer. I...know these are long ago contests, but I just mentioned them to show that there is never any real guarantee of ruling until retirement. Still...and I might be way off-base about this....I felt like the Weider organ was giving Ronnie some warnings after that 2001 contest - especially when Gunter beat him at the GNC. And since Jay has signed up with the org., seems to be constantly in the spotlight, and has been copping the Arnold Classic title for two years without a Coleman challenge, it makes me wonder if an upset isn't in the works. I had read somewhere that Ronnie hopes to rule until he equals the eight wins of Haney - but the field is getting pretty tough out there, and he's only gunning for number #6. In my mind, he's gonna have to be better than he ever was, PLUS fight being ten years older than Cutler....so I'm gonna go out on a limb here and list my choices as: 1. Jay 2. Ronnie 3. Chris or Dennis 4. Gunter 5. Chris or Dennis (just can't decide here) 6. maybe a surprise here - like Martinez?

10-05-2003, 11:49 AM	#76
moon Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: zzzz Posts: 473	Ronnie's stomach is bulging..this is the only flaw i can see in his body.... he has a damned split abs...a rare one ...but unless he miraculously changed his tummy, he won't appear nice this time... I can't wait the contest !!!

10-06-2003, 10:31 AM	#81
nikegurl Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LA, CA Posts: 5,635	I like Cutler's physique the most by far...but I think Ronnie will win again.
	If you want to achieve things that others can't... You have to do things that others won't.

10-06-2003, 03:18 PM	#82
kbm8795 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,367 Photos: 1	Thanks for the welcome, Firestorm....and Gopro....Ya know, I actually hope you end up being right about Ronnie hitting the stage in his best shape ever. If he can win and not retire for another year or two, it could make for a fierce contest season among a lot of new contenders next year and a chance to see a couple of others rise up to seriously challenge the Gunter/Cutler/Coleman trio by Olympia 2004. I can't wait to see how it all pans out myself this year - the best contests are always the ones where no one can afford to be sloppy. No matter who wins, it's gonna be exciting - and they'll be even more anxious up there realizin' that Gopro is training and preparing to take over the crown! :-)

10-06-2003, 07:55 PM	#86
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3