Thread: Am I ready?

Originally Posted by jaim91

Am I ready for an amateur teen girl's competition?

what is that?

You asked for critiques? Okay, you look more anorexic then anything else. I am not trying to be mean but you need to add some size.

agreed, you look "skinny", although you are lean.

also do you have a current pic? the most recent one you posted is almost two months old.

Jaim...hon....

You need to hit the weights and the food.

IMHO, you'll do nothing but embarrass yourself if you competed this soon. What do you eat on a daily basis?

I admire your desire to though Jaim

i have to agree....but don't be discouraged. think of it as an adventure - training hard and eating to gain muscle. you'll get there. the process can seem slow but enjoy it and one day you WILL be ready to compete - no need to rush it.

Not at all ready for a tournament. Definitly take the advice of the people above.

Daily diet babsie? The most recent one is posted in a thread called "Jaim91's daily diet". It was today's...If there was ever a "hardgainer", i would challenge him/her to a competition. I had a pound of cheesecake after my basketball game today.

No, I'm not anorexic.

we all know your not anorexic! you could proabably eat more than anyone here
If I were you I would take another year and try your best to bulk, any gains are better than none. Don't bother going into the comp, instead go and watch, see all the girls there and the amount of muscle they got and decide if that's waht you want. If so back home and eat eat and eat some more and when next year comes around you can kikc all their asses you can do it jaim, espically with everyone here supporting ya!

Originally Posted by Tom_B

we all know your not anorexic! you could proabably eat more than anyone here
If I were you I would take another year and try your best to bulk, any gains are better than none. Don't bother going into the comp, instead go and watch, see all the girls there and the amount of muscle they got and decide if that's waht you want. If so back home and eat eat and eat some more and when next year comes around you can kikc all their asses you can do it jaim, espically with everyone here supporting ya!

I saw your diet and you arent going to gain muscle from candy..believe me.. I have tried it! If you are really that skinny and its not by choice then you have to start taking your diet more seriously .

Originally Posted by Jeanie

I saw your diet and you arent going to gain muscle from candy..believe me.. I have tried it! If you are really that skinny and its not by choice then you have to start taking your diet more seriously .

Exactly. The only gain she'll have is majority fat.

Jaim - I'm going to visit your journal. McDonalds, Wendys (combo meals) and cheese cake....won't help you much at all. You'll put weight on of course, but not the kind you're going after (or we think you're going after.)

Stay strong, we're just being honest.

I am aiming to gain fat. I have been told that it's not healthy for someone my age to have a bf of 8%. I am cold all the time...it's no fun. Of course I want muscle, but I want my bf (and weight) to go up first, the will put on muscle

I see your point, however why not go about this the right way?

You're still going to put fat on yourself regardless the diet, but you need to add muscle as well. You're like skin and bones. With the right "diet" you can eliminate most of the fat and increase lean mass. Trust me, when you end up dieting down...do you want to spend more time trying to burn all the fat? While you're losing fat, you're also losing muscle. Why not try to put an equal amount of it on?

I'm not trying to hurt your feelings or make you not like me....but seriously...you need to think about your approach. IMO, you should take a year to put on muscle and fat (the healthy way)...then diet down to compete (if you still want to.)

Take a year to gain all the right stuff...then start looking for a competition. You're far ahead of yourself right now.

Good luck in all you do.
Babs

I'm going to try. It's going to be hard though. I don't know how chicken breast, nuts, yogurt and egg whites is going to get my bofy fat from 8 - 15...

Forget fitnes or bodybuilding, but I was looking at the figure girls, and they're all tall and lean. Do I have a shot at that?

Originally Posted by jaim91

Forget fitnes or bodybuilding, but I was looking at the figure girls, and they're all tall and lean. Do I have a shot at that?

Okay, I agree with all of the above posts and for the record figure competitors do require muscle too, probably a lot more than you realize.
I think your aspirations are good ones but getting your diet in order and gaining some mass is key.
I guarantee you if you walked on stage as you are now in a figure contest you would be instantly marked down for being too lean, that is not what figure is all about, then you would be marked down for not having enough muscular development, plus with figure comps the judges are looking for specific development, v-taper with narrow waist, capped shoulders etc.
Good luck, keep pumping and keep eating (clean! )... oh and watch Supersize Me if you haven't already.

Originally Posted by jaim91

I'm going to try. It's going to be hard though. I don't know how chicken breast,

Red meat!!!

nuts

Yes they will.

yogurt and egg whites is going to get my bofy fat from 8 - 15...

Dump the yogurt. Eat fruit instead and lots of it. Whole eggs, not egg whites.

Also, hit the weights hard, get enough rest/sleep and minimize cardio vascular activity, including the basketball.

Originally Posted by BritChick

oh and watch Supersize Me if you haven't already.

I've seen it three times. I don't want to say it's motivating, but I've had more McDonald's since I've seen in than in my whole life before. I live "Supersize me"...at least, I used to, before Emma-leigh cleaned up my act

Best way to put on clean mass is to use eat a good ratio of protein carbs and EFA (good fats). I think a 40% Protein, 40% slow carbs and 20% essential fats is a good ratio. I recommend eating pasta or a maltodextrin liquid "fast carb" right after a workout then ingest about 40 gms of whey protein to pump in the aminos into your muscles. At night before bed on the day you have had a workout (or any day) take in some 1% cottage cheese (1/2 cup - 1 cup) to insure you have a slow absorb protein available for when you Growth Hormone cycle kicks in about 2-3 hours after sleep.

Good Essential Fats are: Olive Oil, Flax, Udo's mix, Omega-3's (fish) etc. I use supplement gel caps that have a good mix of all the EFAs daily. I also will spoon on a teaspoon of olive oil on food or toast. The nice thing about EFA's is they do not bulk you up but give you a whopping 9 cals per gram of energy and do not bloat ou or fill up your stomach but will curb appetite, provide natural anti-inflammatory and will boost testosterone levels (especially in men).

OD

lol...you haven't read my journal yet. I'm not allowed those foods...

Scaned your journal real fast.

I thought you said you had trouble getting enough cals an dwant to gain mass. You originally started with pizzas and all kind of junk. I really think upping essential fats would help you a lot since they would not bulk up or bloat your stomach and would permit you to still have a very flat abs section like you currently enjoy but would give you a lot of energy. Eating EFA in conjunction with good protein and slower carbs is a great way to put on quality mass without putting on extra fat. With your metabolism being as fast as it is you want to keep protein/aminos flowing into your muscles like a trickle charge all the time so they are growing and not cannibolizing tissue. The EFAs will help shift fat into the fuel mix to help preserve muscle too.

OD

Originally Posted by OceanDude

I think a 40% Protein, 40% slow carbs and 20% essential fats is a good ratio.

I think an ectomorph, especially one who needs to gain weight, should be closer to 50% carbs

I recommend eating pasta or a maltodextrin liquid "fast carb" right after a workout then ingest about 40 gms of whey protein to pump in the aminos into your muscles.

After workout, the body needs fast acting carbs to offset the onset of muscle catabolism. Pasta is more complex and by itself is not a proper choice.

Originally Posted by Egoatdoor

I think an ectomorph, especially one who needs to gain weight, should be closer to 50% carbs
After workout, the body needs fast acting carbs to offset the onset of muscle catabolism. Pasta is more complex and by itself is not a proper choice.

Perhaps, but I think it would be in her best interest to shift in fats as a large percentage of fuel so she does not have to eat so much. She is petite and does not have the body cavity and gut capacity sufficeint to handle lots of food bulk mass and it will just cause her to bloat up if she over loads carbs. either way 10% more is not going to break the metabolic bank. But IMHO she should be supplimenting with lots of EFA from morning till dinner meals since it takes so little to get the extra cals and will have other positive effects on her skin/hair etc. (shiny, elastic...).

OD

30% protein 50% carbs 20% fat.

I appreciate the help guys. I am taking EFA twice a day now, as perscribed by my voo doo doctor, lol. 30% protein 50% carbs 20% fat? I don't know. I think all my carbs are going to come from fruits and veggies seeing as how the carbs they're letting me eat (100% rye, kamut, rice noodles, spelt, etc.) taste like shit, and are dense so they just sit in my stomach like concrete. This diet is not focused on eating real foods, it's more about supplements, fruits and veggies, that's it.

Originally Posted by jaim91

This diet is not focused on eating real foods, it's more about supplements, fruits and veggies, that's it.

This does not sound like a proper diet for anyone who is involved in athletics or bodybuilding. Supplements are supposed to be just that, supplements to real food. The body needs real food to function. I am not familiar with your whole situation, but could it be you are so thin because you are consuming too many supplements in place of real food?

What qualifications does this voo doo doctor/nutritionist have in dealing with athletic people/bodybuilders?

Does this person have any ulterior motives, such as a financial benefit from selling you supplements?

Finally, no diet is proper for someone if you do not like the food or it tastes bad. This almost certainly guarantees the person will not stick to it or will cheat or binge on other foods. Any sensible nutritionist should know this.

No, I haven't even started taking the supplements yet. My physique has nothing to do with this. So I'm not this because I've been replacing foods with supplements. It may get worse though (hopefully not)...

She has qualifications for dealing with unhealthy people. Regardless of whether those people are bodybuilders, doctors, dentists, accountants, professional athletes, etc.

Nope, she doesn't benefit. She's not affiliated with any brand or any store.

Originally Posted by BritChick

Okay, I agree with all of the above posts and for the record figure competitors do require muscle too, probably a lot more than you realize.
I think your aspirations are good ones but getting your diet in order and gaining some mass is key.
I guarantee you if you walked on stage as you are now in a figure contest you would be instantly marked down for being too lean, that is not what figure is all about, then you would be marked down for not having enough muscular development, plus with figure comps the judges are looking for specific development, v-taper with narrow waist, capped shoulders etc.
Good luck, keep pumping and keep eating (clean! )... oh and watch Supersize Me if you haven't already.

Good advice Brit