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Join Date: May 2001
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BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com Real Deal's Real Deal - Read Only
Dr. Pain & I will be coaching RealDeal for his upcoming competition this summer. We thought it would be interesting for the entire board to watch the transformation so we’ve decided to make another journal to document every detail! I do not have the knowledge or experience to do this on my own, so I thank DP in advance for taking the time and effort to help both me and RD….and just think of the amazing information we’ll have for the archives! Competition & Date- MuscleMania, July 20th Age - 18yrs old (turn 19 in June) Height - 5ft 9in Starting Weight - 217lbs BF% - 15.5% Skinfold Readings: Pec fold= 20mm Abdominal fold= 22mm Thigh fold= 22mm Triceps fold= 12mm Subscapular fold= 20mm Superiliac fold= 20mm Axilla fold= 16mm LBM= 180lbs Measurements Sept 25/01 Compared to Feb 24/02 (5 months) : Sept 25/01 Feb 24/02 Chest expanded around: 45in to 48 1/2in Thighs: 24in to 27in Arms: 15 1/2in to 16 3/4in Calves: 15in to 16 1/2in Neck: 15in to 16 3/4in Forearms: 12in to 12 3/4in Last Year’s Cutting Phase: Preparation time: 1st comp: 14 weeks 2nd comp: 9 weeks Starting weight: 1st comp: 196 (competed at 162) 2nd comp: 175 (competed at 165) Calorie/Macro intake before cut: Avg calories: 3000 Protein: 200-400 g Carbs: Approx. 200g Fats: Approx. 150g “These are all averages, I don’t worry myself with all the exact counting in my off season.” First Cutting Diet: Diet consisted of low fat (40-50g), moderate carbs (100-140g), and protein around 200g. “It was tough for me because i had never been on a diet like it, so I’d slip up sometimes, but I think it actually helped me, because i would eat low calories for a week or two then binge out on one day which through my body off and burned more fat.” Second Cutting Diet: The second pre-comp diet involved cycling fats…15 g one day, 45g the next, and carbs…100g a day, then deplete for a day and load the next day. Protein was between 210-240 g a day. Calories began at 2000 and got as low as 1300 at 4 weeks out. Training: Split Training… A.M.: 45 minutes of weight training in the morning, on an empty stomach, working one major muscle, cardio 30 minutes, HR approx 150-160. P.M.: Different smaller muscle with weights + cardio. Final Week’s Preparation: 1st comp: Three days of carb depletion, 3 days of carb loading w/ complex carbs and honey. 2nd comp: Carb loading choices included more sugar, (apple pie fillings) Water/Sodium: low sodium on first day of carb loading, water eliminated on 2nd day of loading. Comments: “All in all things I wish I did for my first contest was to be ready earlier than I was. Maybe 3-4 weeks out. Not to binge out. Cardio I think went really well. Training is always my strength so that went great. This time, I gave myself 16 weeks because I wanted to be ready 3-4 weeks out. I will be more into it this time around, I learned A LOT from my mistakes, and I am much more disciplined then before. I pose more often now because I have my own posing room. I did a lot of reading on foods/nutrition so I am smarter this too. “ Current Cutting Diet: Initially, we started out w/ ~12 calories per lb of bodyweight. High protein, high fat, low carb…slow-burners only. RD was not using fats to their full potential, so we had him add flax seed oil to meals lacking in fats. This helps to control insulin released from the carbs and maximize fat-burning. Tweaks every couple of weeks will ensure the metabolism doesn’t slow and keep fat-burning high! Tweaks include depleting/carbing up, eliminating certain fat & carb sources and replacing w/ even cleaner sources, manipulating meal frequency & portion size, among other things. Current Training: RD was doing too much cardio to begin w/….which would inevitably lead to LBM loss! Instead, we focus on using diet in the beginning stages of cutting and introduce cardio when nutrition alone isn’t producing enough results. see concerns We set a cardio schedule as follows: The plan is to increase it bit by bit each week. Now: 2x Next week: then 2 + 1 HIIT Week 3: then 2 + 2 then you increase the length by 5 minutes etc! As contest time draws near, cardio may increase to twice a day if needed. Explanation of HIIT Concerns: Because RD’s bodyfat is over 14%, it means we may have to sacrifice LBM to reduce BF. One comment going forward, never allow your BF to go over 10-12% during the off season, it's too long a trip from 15%. This is going to mean an more cardio than we had originally planned! Another concern is that RD is between gyms and doesn’t have access to certain equipment…what’s a competitive BB w/o a gym?!?! Example Meal Plan One (first 3 weeks) The purpose of this diet is to harden up your physique by reducing bodyfat while maintaining and adding lean muscle tissue. Meal #1 1 whole eggs + 5 egg whites 5 oz. 93% lean beef 1/2 cup oatmeal before cooking 1 TBS Flax Oil Meal #2 Protein Drink: 2 Scoops Protein powder, 4-6 frozen strawbeeries, 4 TBS whipping cream (2 oz.), and 12-oz water or 4 oz chicken breast and 4 oz beef, 1 apple Meal #3 8 oz. chicken (before cooking) 6 oz. sweet potato or 1/2 cup cooked brown rice 1.5 cup vegetables (broccoli, etc.) or salad with 2 TBS. Low Cal Dressing Meal #4 2 Scoops protein powder 4-6 strawberries (frozen) 4 TBS whipping cream 12 oz water or 4 oz chicken breast and 4 oz beef, 1 apple Meal #5 8 - 10 oz. 93% lean beef, chicken, turkey, fish and once or twice weekly sirloin steak 2 cups vegetables 1 TBS Flax Oil Meal #6 2 whole eggs + 4 egg whites, 5 oz. 93% lean beef , 1 cup vegetables Or: 4-oz chicken breast and 4 oz beef, 1 apple Or: 2 Scoops protein powder, 4 TBS whipping cream, 12 oz water Supplement Programs (ALL SUPPS OPTIONAL!) Multi Vitamin w/ 1st meal 4 Liver w/ every meal, 4 – Aminos per meal, 25 BCAA during training 10 minutes prior to training ala Charles Poliquin, 2 tsp. (10 g) L- Glutamine before and after training, 2 Antioxidants after training ****************************** First Tweak Any day of this plan can be made into a seperate program, or it can be used in totallity as a program! Meals are interchanable! Meat means turkey,chicken, beef or fish! Oatmeal, Brown rice, yams are interchangable! Follow this diet on Monday and Thursday Meal #1 8 oz. 93% lean beef, chicken breast or turkey breast 3 egg whites, 1 whole egg 1 grapefruit Meal #2 Protein Drink: 3 scoops Ultra Size, 2 TBS Heavy Cream, 18 oz water Or Protein Drink: 2 scoops protein powder, 1 scoop 100% Egg Protein, 2 TBS Heavy Whipping Cream, 4 strawberries, 12 oz water Or: 9 oz can tuna or 8 oz Chicken breast 3 egg whites, 1 yolk, 1 tomato Meal #3 8 ounces chicken (weighed prior to cooking) 4 cups salad (lettuce, tomato, carrot, cucumber, green peppers, etc.) or 2 cups green beans 2 TBL Cider Vinegar and 1 TBS Sunflower Oil (or other vegetable oil) for a dressing Meal #4 Protein Drink: 3 scoops protein powder, 2 TBS Heavy Cream, 18 oz water Or: Protein Drink: 2 scoops Protein powder, 2 TBS Whipping Cream, 1 TBS Flax Oil, 4 strawberries, 12 oz water Or 9 oz can tuna or 8 oz Chicken breast 3 egg whites, 1 yolk, 1 tomato Meal #5 10 oz chicken breast, turkey breast or very lean beef (filet would be ideal) 2 cups green leafy vegetables or salad ((asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, spinach or zucchini) Meal #6 Monday In place of your normal sixth meal and on Thursday, make this a 7th meal: 1.5 cups oatmeal (precooked) or cooked rice, 10 oz. sweet potato, 6 oz. banana, 1 cup vegetables, 1 TBS butter, all at the end of the day - no supplements with this meal Supplement Programs for all 7 days unless noted. ***NOTE: ALL SUPPS ARE OPTIONAL!*** 1.5 grams L-carnitine before W/O 5 - Liver 3 - Aminos per meal 20 - BCAA's 10 minutes before training (on training days only) 1 TBS (15 grams) L-Glutamine after training (on Monday & Thursday only) Thermogenic (if you use them) three times daily except Monday and Thursday Wednesday / Saturday / Sunday Meal #1 8 oz. 93% lean beef, chicken breast or turkey breast (not other turkey products) 3 egg whites, 1 yolk 1 grapefruit Meal #2 Protein Drink: 2 scoops protein powder, 1 scoop Egg Protein, 2 TBS Heavy Cream, 1 TBS Flax Oil, 4 strawberries, 12 oz water or 9 oz can tuna or 8 oz Chicken breast 3 egg whites, 1 tomato Meal #3 8 ounces chicken (weighed prior to cooking) about 2 chicken breasts 4 cups salad (lettuce, tomato, carrot, cucumber, green peppers, etc.) or 2 cups green beans 2 TBL Cider Vinegar and 1 TBS Sunflower Oil (or other vegetable oil) for a dressing Meal #4 9 oz can tuna or 8 oz chicken breast 3 egg whites, 1 tomato or Protein Drink: 2 scoops protein powder, 2 TBS Whipping Cream, 1 TBS Flax Oil, 4 strawberries, 12 oz water Meal #5 10 oz chicken breast, turkey breast or very lean beef 2 cups green leafy vegetables or salad Tuesday and Friday Meal #1 5 oz. turkey breast 5 egg whites, 1 yolk 1/2 grapefruit or 4 large strawberries Meal #2 Protein Drink: 2 scoops protein powder, 2 TBS Whipping Cream, 4 strawberries, 12 oz water Or 6 oz Tuna, 3 egg whites, 1 TBS Flax, 1 tomato or ½ cup vegetables Meal #3 6 ounces chicken (weighed prior to cooking) 4 cups salad (lettuce, tomato, carrot, cucumber, green peppers, etc.) 2 TBL Cider Vinegar and 1 TBS Sunflower Oil (or other vegetable oil) for a dressing Meal #4 6 oz can tuna or 5 oz. chicken 3 egg whites 1 tomato or ½ cup vegetables Meal #5 Protein Drink: 2 scoops Protein, 2 TBS Whipping Cream, 4 strawberries, 12 oz water Or 6 oz Tuna, 3 egg whites, 1 TBS Flax, 1 tomato or ½ cup vegetables Meal #6 6 ounces lean meat (chicken, fish, filet mignon ) or 8 oz Cod Fish 1.5 cups vegetables |
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Join Date: May 2001
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Just a note...we want to keep this thread relatively clean, if anybody has comments or questions for RD, He does have his regular journal that he still posts in
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Thanks W8 and DP for ALL the help, and looking forward to hell in the coming weeks.
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Keep Educating, KNOWLEDGE is the POWER
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: ON
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Good Luck RD. Can't wait to meet you at the Musclemania!!!
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A chic on the move.
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: inez, ky
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Very enjoyable Journal...
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The only way to make any of this work...work X X Xtremley damn hard at it!!!!
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Join Date: May 2001
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Bumping
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Join Date: May 2001
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RD, sometime soon, around day 42-45, we need you to add back some carbs for a few days (maybe 3-5)
Your meal profile will look like: 5 meals of 50P 30 C 10 F and then a final meal of 40P 0C 15 F Totals 290 P 150 C 65 F The purpose is threefold 1) a mini metabolism reset 2) boost thyroid performace and 3) See what it takes for you to "spill" (we expect a temporary increase in cuts and definition and then an almost immediate blurring, we need to know the precise moment this occurs, carb sources are "slowburners" as usual, comtemplate a heavy week simutaneously) This is important so we know what carb-up plan to use the last few days! ------------------------------------------- Then until one week out we want you to try this, we will tweak if necessary: 6 meals @ (we may go to five meals at 3 weeks out) 50P 5-10C 12 F (except 1/2 grapefruit in meal one, about 11-12 C) (these are arbitrary grams of carbs, less is OK) Daily totals 300P 40 C and 72 F Now the tricky part. First standard Carb-up (as before) comes in 6 days, next one after that in 5 days, next one in 4 days, and then bi-weekly after that! We will also do a mini dehydration experiment at 3 weeks out, so that you will know what to expect! DPw8 |
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Designer Supplements
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Newcastle
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I like how you still have him eating fruit.
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Being held down by The Man
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Join Date: May 2001
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Why's that?
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again!
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This is a "READ ONLY" thread, TCD, your "Fouling" things up again!
For clarification....we may go to fish and eggwhites last minute (weeks).....and one of three "pre-show" carb ups we "may" use, involves 6 oz of beef and a grapefruit for each of six meals! Surely you have researched Grapefruit? ![]() DP |
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Designer Supplements
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Newcastle
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Leah, it's just that a lot of people are fruitophobic at the best of times, nevermind when cutting. I'm very pro-fruit. Well, certain kinds of fruit at least. |
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Designer Supplements
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Newcastle
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DP, i just got your "foul" joke. Very good.
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again!
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Still fouling? ![]() It's a combination of philosophies...... First kind of plays off of Dr. Eric Serrano's and Charles Poliquin's principles of change....as in changing a W/O because they contend that adaptation occurs by the third W/O (same) and the body "may" recruit up to 30% less fiber for the same movement (adaptation of a sort)...well the same applies to food Every three to five weeks (Beverly International)...not only a change in Marcronutrients to avoid adaptation and complacency by the body....butt also a change of "Food Sources" (Fat sources -Poliquin, Protein sources- Serrano) The combination of fish and eggwhites is "different" to RD, and will allow us to introduce the fat source(s) of our choice..if any! ![]() OK with you TCD? ![]() DP |
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Designer Supplements
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Newcastle
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Yeah i wasn't arguing with anything. Just seeing why you're doing certain things.
If having these posts in here is really bothering you or anyone, they can always be deleted once a reply has been gotten. |
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