ronnie vs. arnold

Duncans Donuts · 05-26-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by assassin

but they were not so big like the coleman generation .........what's the secret of this

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN TOM PLATZ'S LEGS??

IGF-1, Insulin, GH, more knowledge regarding nutrition and stacking, plus the RIDICULOUS levels of abuse make this a sad era for BBin. I think Coleman looks like shit. Give me Sergio Olivia or Platz any day!!

Duncans Donuts · 05-26-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mags

Arnold has overall a better figure in proportion and simply in overall look. Ronnie, I'd admire for just being so huge and incredibly strong. His quad mass does kick the piss out of arnolds, but arnolds go better and as everyone else mentioned, they're more defined. Arnold still has some of the best biceps and chest when compared to bodybuilders today no matter who the contender is. I mean, look at the first photo, Ronnie possibly has bigger arms due to larger tri's but Arnolds Biceps actually look longer, fuller and overall BIGGER than Ronnies. Thats truly amazing and why arnold will always stand the test of time. I'd rather have arnolds physique any day.

Look at the length of his tendons running to Arnold's bicep! A high peak implies less bicep mass.

HERE's one of the greatest of all times: look how there's no peak, but his mass is probably to the tune of 20 percent denser if not more.

maniclion · 05-26-2006, 06:03 PM

hGH has ruined bodybuilding or to be more specific the torso portion.

dumbdumbdinkel3 · 05-26-2006, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by maniclion

hGH has ruined bodybuilding or to be more specific the torso portion.

it is the bodybuilders who have ruined hgh!

if not abused to extremes has great effects

TJ Cline · 05-26-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dumbdumbdinkel3

it is the bodybuilders who have ruined hgh!

if not abused to extremes has great effects

Wrong again...the industry rewards it...so blame those in power son.

Duncans Donuts · 05-26-2006, 11:05 PM

Blame everyone. Pro bodybuilding is a joke.

TJ Cline · 05-26-2006, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

Look at the length of his tendons running to Arnold's bicep! A high peak implies less bicep mass.

HERE's one of the greatest of all times: look how there's no peak, but his mass is probably to the tune of 20 percent denser if not more.

And he also had more than a 20 inch taper between his relaxed waist and chest....something no bodybuilder can claim today. In his prime Sergios upper arm was 2/3 the size of his waist....no other man in the history of the world can make that claim.

Duncans Donuts · 05-26-2006, 11:32 PM

He is without a doubt my favorite. Sergio Olivia at his prime had everything: MASS, narrowness of waist, his famous "Y Taper" - perfect bodybuilding physique. Nobody else in history comes close in my opinion. People claimed his conditioning wasn't on par with today's competition - yeah, give that man DNP, HGH, the assortment of clen/t3 and other stacks and you'd see a man whooping everyones ass on the circuit today.

my goodness.

aceshigh · 05-27-2006, 05:59 AM

how arnie beat olivia is beyond me

ironmanlives79 · 06-22-2006, 06:09 PM

RONNIE LOSES OUT JUST BECAUSE THE GH MAKES HIS GUT BLOAT. OTHER WISE HIS LEGS ARE 2X THE SIZE OF ARNOLDS/ HIS ARMS ARE ABOUT THE SAME BUT they're more ripped.

juggernaut · 06-24-2006, 02:43 PM

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Doses have incresed dramatically, as has food intake, and science behind timing of meals and what / when to take in sugar is a bit different. The drugs haven't changed much, if at all. I wonder how Arnold would look if he had access to today's strats back then. A 6'2" 255-260lb Arnold would have been incredible. But it's all still the IF game. When I was about 10 years (or more) younger, I wanted to be a freak like Coleman is today, but I'm preferring the Arnold physique more and more now. Maybe its my joints... hehe.
J

My ultimate goal is to have as close a competitive physique as arnold's. I am the same in structure and build. I dont juice (I would but the teacher's salalry I'm on doesnt permit), I laso have great genetics family wise. arnold is sixty. he is still in good shape.
On the other hand, I cant take anything away from ronnie. I met the guy and he is true getleman. BUT, how long is he going to survive after bbing is over for him? His body has got to be fucked up permenantly.

Martinogdenbsx · 07-01-2006, 05:43 AM

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His body has got to be fucked up permenantly

For sure,is it ever worth it???

drbenroth · 07-01-2006, 08:40 AM

arnie by far. also arnie at 225 looks better than arnie at 240
his expression and pose is so much cooler

juggernaut · 07-01-2006, 09:03 AM

overall, ahhnold, lee haney, bob paris, berry demey, lee labrada, shawn ray, darem charles and mike christian are probably the better bodybuilders than the mass monsters. They all have one thing in common-symmetry. Who gives a fuck about a striated ass or a the fact that you cant fit thru normal sized door? I just dont think the bloat is a point of where bbing should go. Its unreal to say the least, and these guys work hard-damn hard, but it just doesnt look like a real person. And what the fuck is with that big valley in the center ronnie's abs?

drbenroth · 07-01-2006, 09:53 AM

arnie looks like some kind of athletic god
ronnie looks like a greasy, constipated, pregnant hick...although, im not sure i'd say it to his face.

does my bum look big in this?

juggernaut · 07-01-2006, 10:01 AM

its really funny how they make him look unreal in the mags. But if an ameteur takes a picture, it looks hilarious, all bloated and shit.

Martinogdenbsx · 07-01-2006, 12:10 PM

looks like ronnie has a small bit of gyno there HAHA

LexusGS · 07-01-2006, 12:21 PM

ronnie is a monstar

the nut · 07-01-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LexusGS

ronnie is a monstar

with tits!

lnvanry · 07-01-2006, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Martinogdenbsx

looks like ronnie has a small bit of gyno there HAHA

more than a small bit

Martinogdenbsx · 07-02-2006, 07:51 AM

drbenroth · 07-02-2006, 08:00 AM

looking like you would pop if you stepped on a pin, is not a good look.
arnie looks solid

Double D · 07-02-2006, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

overall, ahhnold, lee haney, bob paris, berry demey, lee labrada, shawn ray, darem charles and mike christian are probably the better bodybuilders than the mass monsters. They all have one thing in common-symmetry. Who gives a fuck about a striated ass or a the fact that you cant fit thru normal sized door? I just dont think the bloat is a point of where bbing should go. Its unreal to say the least, and these guys work hard-damn hard, but it just doesnt look like a real person. And what the fuck is with that big valley in the center ronnie's abs?

Definitly need to add Flex Wheeler onto that list. He shouldve won the Olympia a few times and took 2nd.

juggernaut · 07-02-2006, 10:13 AM

ever wonder if the matters of today wouldve been different had flex wheeler won the 98 O', the first where ronnie won by a smaaalllll increment?

Double D · 07-02-2006, 10:37 AM

Thats a hell of a thought. I believe it wouldve been different because they wouldve set the mold of what bb'ers should look like. Instead of the mega monster who has very little symetrics, it wouldve been a guy like Flex who was teetering around perfection.

aceshigh · 07-02-2006, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dumbdumbdinkel3

comments??

i know this probly belongs in another section but i forgot where i was at...

this picture is bullshit u got a 140kg monster vs 110 kg does the weight difference really look that much in that pic no it doesnt,,,,if arnie in reality was standing next to ronnie there would be no comparison ronnie wins hands down

aceshigh · 07-02-2006, 10:55 AM

now im pretty sure u all think arnie has alot smaller waist than ronnie ,,get a ruler and measure there waists in that pic

aceshigh · 07-02-2006, 10:56 AM

arnies arms were 21 inches but they seem to look alot bigger than ronnies also that pic is bullshit

Double D · 07-02-2006, 10:58 AM

Sure Ronnie wins if he its in todays bodybuilding, but I think for the most part people think todays bodybuilding sucks. Todays bodybuilder just gets as big as possible with no reguards to any kind of symetry (spelled that damned word wrong like 10 times now). Like I was saying earlier theres no reason why ronnie ever beat Wheeler. Wheeler looks much better and I think 90% or better of the guys on this board would agree. Arnold is the man and theres no arguing that. Yes Ronnie is a enormous monster, but he has a midsection that goes along with that. I am sure that if Arnold shot all the hgh that ronnie takes then yeah Arnold would have been even bigger than Ronnie.

05-26-2006, 11:05 PM	#36
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05-26-2006, 11:32 PM	#38
Duncans Donuts smilin' happily Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,634 Photos: 1	He is without a doubt my favorite. Sergio Olivia at his prime had everything: MASS, narrowness of waist, his famous "Y Taper" - perfect bodybuilding physique. Nobody else in history comes close in my opinion. People claimed his conditioning wasn't on par with today's competition - yeah, give that man DNP, HGH, the assortment of clen/t3 and other stacks and you'd see a man whooping everyones ass on the circuit today. my goodness.
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05-27-2006, 05:59 AM	#39
aceshigh Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,822	how arnie beat olivia is beyond me
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07-01-2006, 09:03 AM	#44
juggernaut Hijacker of Threads Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,011 Photos: 2	overall, ahhnold, lee haney, bob paris, berry demey, lee labrada, shawn ray, darem charles and mike christian are probably the better bodybuilders than the mass monsters. They all have one thing in common-symmetry. Who gives a fuck about a striated ass or a the fact that you cant fit thru normal sized door? I just dont think the bloat is a point of where bbing should go. Its unreal to say the least, and these guys work hard-damn hard, but it just doesnt look like a real person. And what the fuck is with that big valley in the center ronnie's abs?
	Eat well, train daily, die anyway.

07-01-2006, 10:01 AM	#46
juggernaut Hijacker of Threads Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,011 Photos: 2	its really funny how they make him look unreal in the mags. But if an ameteur takes a picture, it looks hilarious, all bloated and shit.
	Eat well, train daily, die anyway.

06-22-2006, 06:09 PM	#40
ironmanlives79 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 26	RONNIE LOSES OUT JUST BECAUSE THE GH MAKES HIS GUT BLOAT. OTHER WISE HIS LEGS ARE 2X THE SIZE OF ARNOLDS/ HIS ARMS ARE ABOUT THE SAME BUT they're more ripped.

07-01-2006, 08:40 AM	#43
drbenroth howard benjamin Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: usa Posts: 29 Photos: 2	arnie by far. also arnie at 225 looks better than arnie at 240 his expression and pose is so much cooler

07-01-2006, 09:53 AM	#45
drbenroth howard benjamin Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: usa Posts: 29 Photos: 2	arnie looks like some kind of athletic god ronnie looks like a greasy, constipated, pregnant hick...although, im not sure i'd say it to his face. does my bum look big in this?

07-01-2006, 12:10 PM	#47
Martinogdenbsx Dedicated to one thing!!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,149	looks like ronnie has a small bit of gyno there HAHA

07-01-2006, 12:21 PM	#48
LexusGS 3UZFE Join Date: May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 2,636	ronnie is a monstar

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Martinogdenbsx Dedicated to one thing!!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,149

07-02-2006, 08:00 AM	#52
drbenroth howard benjamin Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: usa Posts: 29 Photos: 2	looking like you would pop if you stepped on a pin, is not a good look. arnie looks solid

07-02-2006, 10:13 AM	#54
juggernaut Hijacker of Threads Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Mars Posts: 4,011 Photos: 2	ever wonder if the matters of today wouldve been different had flex wheeler won the 98 O', the first where ronnie won by a smaaalllll increment?
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07-02-2006, 10:37 AM	#55
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,694	Thats a hell of a thought. I believe it wouldve been different because they wouldve set the mold of what bb'ers should look like. Instead of the mega monster who has very little symetrics, it wouldve been a guy like Flex who was teetering around perfection.

07-02-2006, 10:55 AM	#57
aceshigh Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,822	now im pretty sure u all think arnie has alot smaller waist than ronnie ,,get a ruler and measure there waists in that pic
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07-02-2006, 10:56 AM	#58
aceshigh Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,822	arnies arms were 21 inches but they seem to look alot bigger than ronnies also that pic is bullshit
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07-02-2006, 10:58 AM	#59
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,694	Sure Ronnie wins if he its in todays bodybuilding, but I think for the most part people think todays bodybuilding sucks. Todays bodybuilder just gets as big as possible with no reguards to any kind of symetry (spelled that damned word wrong like 10 times now). Like I was saying earlier theres no reason why ronnie ever beat Wheeler. Wheeler looks much better and I think 90% or better of the guys on this board would agree. Arnold is the man and theres no arguing that. Yes Ronnie is a enormous monster, but he has a midsection that goes along with that. I am sure that if Arnold shot all the hgh that ronnie takes then yeah Arnold would have been even bigger than Ronnie.