ronnie vs. arnold

ironmanlives79 · 07-13-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

do you really believe that because of ties to weider, arnie was able to swoon a series of judges? Thats a tall order. Wasnt there some controversy about how Arnold shouldnt have been there in the first place because of not even qualifying in past events?

I also believe Mentzer was in better shape than arnold in the 80 O.

As for ronnie, I believe his time is limited because of his ridiculous size, which isnt obtainable by mere mortals. I think the freakiness is a passing genre that will see a demise sooner or later. I'd like to see the shawn rays or lee labradas (read symmtrical) win the major shows.

its a shame in a way. arnold was way ahead of his competition for his time, save for you the 80 olympia. thats when the competion started to catch up with arnold, that he had let himself go. in my opinion the 80 olympia was the greatest showing of all time as far as overall quality.but its so strange that arnold won. with everybody else being dead on and arnold came in at about 50% of what he had been in the past. im a arnold fan for sure but i cant lie and say that was a just competition.

are you a big mentzer fan?? i follow the principals of mentzer hit so im treated as a bit of an outcast on most body building boards in regards to training.--peace.

ironmanlives79 · 07-13-2006, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Double D

Yeah thats a great way to try and squash it. How about this, "I am sorry we were both ignorant and I apologize". Now wouldnt that make more sense?

i disagree with the ignorant part. if sombody calls you a "dumb shit' way out in left field for no reason/you should call them out.then they know theyre in the wrong and you give them an opportunity to grow. but i should know when to quit also so im through with the squabble. peace.

Double D · 07-13-2006, 05:37 PM

Well my time here as a peace moderator is now come to an end.............

juggernaut · 07-13-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

its a shame in a way. arnold was way ahead of his competition for his time, save for you the 80 olympia. thats when the competion started to catch up with arnold, that he had let himself go. in my opinion the 80 olympia was the greatest showing of all time as far as overall quality.but its so strange that arnold won. with everybody else being dead on and arnold came in at about 50% of what he had been in the past. im a arnold fan for sure but i cant lie and say that was a just competition.

are you a big mentzer fan?? i follow the principals of mentzer hit so im treated as a bit of an outcast on most body building boards in regards to training.--peace.

I dunno if I can be called a mentzer fan. I like his principles, as I firmly believe in the less is more ideal. Currently, I'm a huge fan of dc training, which is something spun out of mentzer's system.

juggernaut · 07-13-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

i disagree with the ignorant part. if sombody calls you a "dumb shit' way out in left field for no reason/you should call them out.then they know theyre in the wrong and you give them an opportunity to grow. but i should know when to quit also so im through with the squabble. peace.

done too.

TJ Cline · 07-13-2006, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

ive seen the video as well. arnold shouldnt have even placed in the top 6. although i will admit that arnold is a force to be dealt with in top shape he was soft from hollywood at that point. he entered started training for the contest 5weeks out and he didnt decide to do the show until the day of the contest after he found out who the judges were. mike mentzer should have been first or it might have been 2nd since tom platz looked unearthly that night. thats my opinion though. but bottom line arnold came out in the books so thats how it is i guess. -peace.

I thought Arnold looked like shit but he was still the best in that show....Just think if he lost...he would have got back to 237+ hell even bigger and won it 5 more times just to make a point.

ironmanlives79 · 07-18-2006, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I thought Arnold looked like shit but he was still the best in that show....Just think if he lost...he would have got back to 237+ hell even bigger and won it 5 more times just to make a point.

no arnold didnt look the best in the show. and even if he was in top shape( i think)it was very possible platz, zane or mentzer would have beat him. but since arnold had such a high profile by that time it would have been very hard for an upset. i dont say that to take anything away from arnold just that the only person to ever challenge a.s before that time was sergio. --peace.

juggernaut · 07-18-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

--peace.

whats with the peace already? Stop it will ya?

ironmanlives79 · 07-19-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

whats with the peace already? Stop it will ya?

you see that new x3 movie yet?? what did you think of the juggernaut character?? i though it was pretty decent.

juggernaut · 07-19-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ironmanlives79

you see that new x3 movie yet?? what did you think of the juggernaut character?? i though it was pretty decent.

thought the movie sucked.

FishOrCutBait · 07-19-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

thought the movie sucked.

Im the juggernaut, bitch

ironmanlives79 · 07-20-2006, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

thought the movie sucked.

are you a fan of the comic character or the mythical tale of the juggernaut??

juggernaut · 07-20-2006, 06:13 PM

actually neither. I like the definition.

juggernaut · 07-20-2006, 06:19 PM

(a massive inexorable force that seems to crush everything in its way)...I actually got this nickname becuase I've been around first person shooters online since the beginning. My first game was Doom and I needed a nickname. I became well known in circles and through each game I kept using the name.

SuperFlex · 07-22-2006, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aceshigh

arnies arms were 21 inches but they seem to look alot bigger than ronnies also that pic is bullshit

22 1/2 at his best...but I agree. Ronnie has a hell of alot more size! Arnold is closer than Ronnie is in the picture. Still, I'd rather look like Arnold x1000... He had one of, if not the, greatest builds of alltime. If he had thicker legs he'd be tops...

Double D · 07-22-2006, 11:16 PM

The bodybuilder today is completely different about the bodybuilder of yesterday. Drugs are used much more now than they were before. Today you have pros stacking and hardly ever coming off. HGH is used all the time now to. Which if thats what it takes to make money and a name for themselves then more power to them. But its taking away from the bodybuilders that care about their health. Tough to compete with someone who has a pin shoved in them 24/7.

aceshigh · 07-22-2006, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Arnold is God.....Ronnie will be forgotten in a few years while Arnolds name will live on for generations.

wtf are u talking about arnold who??

Double D · 07-22-2006, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aceshigh

wtf are u talking about arnold who??

Well hes only the pinnacle of bodybuilding.

Mighty Oak · 09-04-2006, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mags

Arnold has overall a better figure in proportion and simply in overall look. Ronnie, I'd admire for just being so huge and incredibly strong. His quad mass does kick the piss out of arnolds, but arnolds go better and as everyone else mentioned, they're more defined. Arnold still has some of the best biceps and chest when compared to bodybuilders today no matter who the contender is. I mean, look at the first photo, Ronnie possibly has bigger arms due to larger tri's but Arnolds Biceps actually look longer, fuller and overall BIGGER than Ronnies. Thats truly amazing and why arnold will always stand the test of time. I'd rather have arnolds physique any day.

That is actually exactly what I always say.

Hi, I'm new to the board and this is my first post.

ssenkrad · 05-24-2007, 09:16 AM

I beleive Arnold has a more pleasing body then Ronnie.

Arnold is the greatest Bodybuilder of all time

**Prince** · 05-24-2007, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ssenkrad

I beleive Arnold has a more pleasing body then Ronnie.

Arnold is the greatest Bodybuilder of all time

MANY pros have a more pleasing physique than Ronnie!

MeatZatk · 05-24-2007, 11:04 AM

MeatZatk · 05-24-2007, 11:07 AM

oh, Arnold over Ronnie anyday.

gsxrK3 · 05-24-2007, 01:46 PM

Real quick could someone explain exactly where the gut comes from that Ronnie has, since it's not fat.

Hey juggernaut I just downloaded Elder Scrolls 4, it's pretty fun!

juggernaut · 05-24-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gsxrK3

Real quick could someone explain exactly where the gut comes from that Ronnie has, since it's not fat.

Hey juggernaut I just downloaded Elder Scrolls 4, it's pretty fun!

I get more carpal tunnel jolts from that game than from being on Ironmag all the time

BoytonHeavy · 05-28-2007, 04:24 AM

All I gotta say is, Arnold wins hands down!...lol...Whatever happened to the small waists of the old days? I'm always trying to have a small, tiny waist like Arnold's, I don't let myself get a belly or a huge stomach

BoytonHeavy · 05-28-2007, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

MANY pros have a more pleasing physique than Ronnie!

This is indeed, very true! Jay Cutler is one of them

Double D · 05-28-2007, 06:14 AM

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07-20-2006, 06:13 PM	#133
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07-20-2006, 06:19 PM	#134
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05-24-2007, 09:16 AM	#140
ssenkrad Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 6	I beleive Arnold has a more pleasing body then Ronnie. Arnold is the greatest Bodybuilder of all time
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05-24-2007, 11:04 AM	#142
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	No Grain No Gain

07-13-2006, 05:37 PM	#123
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,694	Well my time here as a peace moderator is now come to an end.............

07-22-2006, 11:16 PM	#136
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,694	The bodybuilder today is completely different about the bodybuilder of yesterday. Drugs are used much more now than they were before. Today you have pros stacking and hardly ever coming off. HGH is used all the time now to. Which if thats what it takes to make money and a name for themselves then more power to them. But its taking away from the bodybuilders that care about their health. Tough to compete with someone who has a pin shoved in them 24/7.

05-24-2007, 01:46 PM	#144
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05-28-2007, 04:24 AM	#146
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