Thread: Bill Phillips

that is pretty cool that he is going to do it for free.

yes, but when you're worth $100+ million it's not like you need any money.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

yes, but when you're worth $100+ million it's not like you need any money.

yup. probably one of the best business men this industy has seen.

How did he make all his money if he didn't accept royalties from Body for Life?

Originally Posted by musclepump

How did he make all his money if he didn't accept royalties from Body for Life?

EAS supplements?

Originally Posted by Doublebase

EAS supplements?

Oohhhh.... he's that guy.

Originally Posted by musclepump

How did he make all his money if he didn't accept royalties from Body for Life?

If you don't know who Bill Phillips is....

Founder of EAS (sold it in 2001 and made millions)
Creator of Body For Life (the contest)
Wrote the books Body For Life and Eating For Life
Creator of Muscle Media 2000 (magazine, no longer published)
Wrote the Underground Steroid books

Any of that ring a bell?

I knew all of that except the EAS stuff, which undoubtedly is where his money came from.

Originally Posted by musclepump

I knew all of that except the EAS stuff, which undoubtedly is where his money came from.

yup, the bulk of it, however his book Body For Life ... sold in excess of 4 million copies, has topped the charts in 11 different countries—including the U.S., England, Japan, Australia, Greece and Finland—and in 2004, named among the Top 15 bestselling books of the past decade by USA Today.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

yup, the bulk of it, however his book Body For Life ... sold in excess of 4 million copies, has topped the charts in 11 different countries—including the U.S., England, Japan, Australia, Greece and Finland—and in 2004, named among the Top 15 bestselling books of the past decade by USA Today.

I read that too, I also read that he didn't accept any royalties from it. Soo... the money didn't come from there

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

Wrote the Underground Steroid books

His money came from EAS and MM2000. The Underground Steroid books were from Dan Duchaine.

Originally Posted by JerseyDevil

The Underground Steroid books were from Dan Duchaine.

I stand corrected!

In 1992 after being released from prison for a second time Duchaine began working for Bill Phillips' magazine MM2K writing a monthly Q&A column called Ask the Guru.

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I stand corrected!

In 1992 after being released from prison for a second time Duchaine began working for Bill Phillips' magazine MM2K writing a monthly Q&A column called Ask the Guru.

That's right! I remember that column. I feel steroid use should be a personal choice, and that intelligient use is relatively safe. It seemed strange that Duchaine died of a really rare disease. It was not connected with steroid use, but one has to wonder. On the other hand Duchaine was a science experiment by his own hand.

Duchaine also wrote a bunch of stuff on ketogenic diets which fueld Lyle Mcdonald's body opus journal and then the Ketogenic diet book he wrote.

Duchaine was a smart dude.

Dan died of complications of end-stage renal disease.

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...remembered.htm

Coroner obviously didn't know his nephrology very well.

Read case number 1 (including the diagnosis further down the page.

Note the intercranial aneurisms = stroke Dan had in prison.

I hate sloppy diagnostitians. The weight loss and flu-lke symptoms are consistent with endstage renal failure from PKD.

http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/polycystic/

Dan did not die of a mysterious rare disease. His playing around with PPAR-gamma inducers which induces renal basement membrane overgrowth. In the autosomal form, angiogenesis of large and small vessels in kidney apparently contributes to cyst formation. An enlarged liver and enlarged heart valves is often seen as well in PKD. Of course, these are also symptoms observed in chronic AAS use as well, especially the older first generation analogs.

You do not toy with steroids if you have this condition. Dan knew it, and he also knew of the probable consequences of use of gear, also known to induce liver, heart and kidney problems. He could easily have lived to age 60 or more, perhaps without need to resort to continual dialysis.

Unfortunatlly I read "Body for Life". URGH.......

Originally Posted by Trouble

Dan died of complications of end-stage renal disease.

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...remembered.htm

Coroner obviously didn't know his nephrology very well.

Read case number 1 (including the diagnosis further down the page.

Note the intercranial aneurisms = stroke Dan had in prison.

I hate sloppy diagnostitians. The weight loss and flu-lke symptoms are consistent with endstage renal failure from PKD.

http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/polycystic/

Dan did not die of a mysterious rare disease. His playing around with PPAR-gamma inducers which induces renal basement membrane overgrowth. In the autosomal form, angiogenesis of large and small vessels in kidney apparently contributes to cyst formation. An enlarged liver and enlarged heart valves is often seen as well in PKD. Of course, these are also symptoms observed in chronic AAS use as well, especially the older first generation analogs.

You do not toy with steroids if you have this condition. Dan knew it, and he also knew of the probable consequences of use of gear, also known to induce liver, heart and kidney problems. He could easily have lived to age 60 or more, perhaps without need to resort to continual dialysis.

As usual Trouble presents the 'real' story

Originally Posted by Double D

Unfortunatlly I read "Body for Life". URGH.......

Not a fan huh?

I dunno. BFL works pretty damn slick for getting the masses back in shape. He gets them into the gym and eating better. It gets results. Folks seem to stick with it afterwards.