Kevin Levrone Transformation - New

juggernaut · 06-09-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince

I consider a protein shake a supplement, I also believe that using whey protein isolate post work-out is superior to eating any type of food, the absorption rate is considerably higher as well as the quality of protein.

why do you believe that-I've used both and cant really gauge that big of a difference.

**Gazhole** · 06-09-2009, 03:18 PM

I guess it depends on what food we're talking about. From a purely biochemical standpoint a protein with a higher biological value will be far more useful to the body, and the less digesting that needs to go on the quicker the body can actually use it.

Generally a protein powder is far more easily digested than say, a chicken breast. That and protein powders are made especially to have as high a biological value as possible. Powdered egg whites would also be up there near the top spot, which is essentially a protein powder anyway.

Whether or not you can tell the difference between the effectiveness of protein powder or food is another matter. For one thing I would just rather take a shake than chow down on some chicken right away, lol.

**Mudge** · 06-09-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by juggernaut

why do you believe that-I've used both and cant really gauge that big of a difference.

Natural people who grow slowly, especially if you aren't doing both seperately over a 6 month period and having all other things exactly the same - are not going to likely notice a difference. We aren't talking about not growing, versus putting half an inch on your arms in 2 weeks, sadly it is not THAT big of a difference otherwise it would be well known that protein powder gets you blown up.

**Prince** · 06-09-2009, 05:30 PM

June 9, 2009

YouTube Video

Here are scenes of the complete workout from Sunday. Cardio & shoulders. You’ll notice that it includes that same clip with 80 lb dumbs – this shows one set from the exercises from that day.

I usually do four sets of each exercise. For the clips that I upload to this site, I usually just do one of those sets per exercise. I like to show the last one because that’s the most intense set, but keep in mind that I’m doing at least four sets per exercise. This may seem obvious, but I’m saying it for the benefit of my friends overseas who may not have the easiest time understanding what I’m saying on the video.

**Gazhole** · 06-10-2009, 06:07 AM

Fair play to him, he's still a built dude even after all that time off.

rahaas · 06-10-2009, 07:02 AM

He must have kept up on some training while pursuing other ventures even though he may deny it.

T_man · 06-10-2009, 08:31 AM

He does decline bench for his chest. Interesting. Might start some myself

**Prince** · 06-10-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rahaas

He must have kept up on some training while pursuing other ventures even though he may deny it.

definitely, I believe the only thing he asserts is that he has not done any free weights in 4 years, or any real "bodybuilding movements", but I am sure he has done some type of work-out the past 4 years to maintain his physique at a fitness level.

T_man · 06-10-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

definitely, I believe the only thing he asserts is that he has not done any free weights in 4 years, or any real "bodybuilding movements", but I am sure he has done some type of work-out the past 4 years to maintain his physique at a fitness level.

I think HIIT & stuff like pressups and stuff like that.

Shade of his former self: http://i2.iofferphoto.com/img/item/2...o_untitled.JPG

His chest looks like it's really deteriorated and his shoulders have lost bulk

m11 · 06-10-2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

I consider a protein shake a supplement, I also believe that using whey protein isolate post work-out is superior to eating any type of food, the absorption rate is considerably higher as well as the quality of protein.

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Originally Posted by Gazhole

Anything that adds to your diet that isn't food in a literal sense is a supplement - it is supplemental to your regular diet for the purposes of convenience in getting the required amount of X nutrient. Thats what a supplement is. A supplement isn't some alien substance that affects your body in a special way, its just some aspect of nutrition concentrated into a powder or a pill.

Creatine is found in red meat, so by your definition all i would have to do to get creatine is eat a lot of red meat thus making creatine not a supplement. Amino acid supplements are supplements, but a lot of amino acids are found in regular dietary sources. So are EFAs. You could make the point you just made about anything.

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

To say that a protein shake is not a supplement is crazy. When you drink a shake you are supplementing protein in your diet. I would tend to believe a whey shake gets processed in your body much faster then if you eat solid foods. Therefore increasing protein uptake in that 30-60 minute window of opportunity after a workout. Kevin actually mentions how its ideal to get protein in your body shorty after a workout in his video. I am shocked a little with his method since I would have to conclude the 30g of protein from 4oz of chicken would not be used in the body for quite a bit of time after consumption.

Point taken.

rahaas · 06-10-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince

definitely, I believe the only thing he asserts is that he has not done any free weights in 4 years, or any real "bodybuilding movements", but I am sure he has done some type of work-out the past 4 years to maintain his physique at a fitness level.

I'm thinking with acting tryouts "bulking" is probably out of the question. I'm not sure if I believe no free weights in 4 years. You would think - not using it would have lost it - in that amount of time and any type of cardo would have accelerated that. Again I'm just speculating based on what would happened to the rest of us if we'd have done the same.

T_man · 06-10-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rahaas

I'm thinking with acting tryouts "bulking" is probably out of the question. I'm not sure if I believe no free weights in 4 years. You would think - not using it would have lost it - in that amount of time and any type of cardo would have accelerated that. Again I'm just speculating based on what would happened to the rest of us if we'd have done the same.

arnie downshifted really quick, and if you compare, levrone looks like he was doing intense training compared to arnie

**Prince** · 06-11-2009, 10:32 AM

June 11, 2009

YouTube Video

This was an awesome workout. I did 16 sets per body part yesterday. The nutrition is working, my body and mind are starting to adjust, it’s all falling into place. Thanks again to Chris for the spot on the preacher curls. Stay tuned for progress photo, weight and measurements on Friday.

FRONT LAT PULL DOWNS

1st set: 150 lbs, 10 reps
2nd set: 165 lbs, 8 reps
3rd set: 170 lbs, 8 reps
4th set: 18o lbs, 8 reps

REAR LAT PULL DOWNS

1st set: 120 lbs, 6 reps
2nd set: 130 lbs, 6 reps
3rd set: 135 lbs, 6 reps
4th set: 150 lbs, 8 reps

SEATED ROWS

1st set: 120 lbs, 6 reps
2nd set: 140 lbs, 6 reps
3rd set: 150 lbs, 6 reps
4th set: 160 lbs, 8 reps

ONE-ARM ROWS

1st set: 65 lbs, 6 reps
2nd set: 70 lbs, 6 reps
3rd set: 75 lbs, 6 reps
4th set: 105 lbs, 6 reps

ALTERNATING ONE-ARM DUMBBELL CURLS

1st set: 40 lbs, 6 reps
2nd set: 40 lbs, 6 reps
3rd set: 50 lbs, 6 reps
4th set: 5o lbs, 6 reps

HAMMER CURLS

1st set: 25 lbs, 6 reps
2nd set: 30 lbs, 6 reps
3rd set: 40 lbs, 6 reps
4th set: 40 lbs, 6 reps

STRAIGHT BAR CURLS

1st set: 75 lbs, 6 reps
2nd set: 85 lbs, 6 reps
3rd set: 95 lbs, 6 reps
4th set: 95 lbs, 6 reps

PREACHER CURLS

1st set: 55 lbs, 6 reps
2nd set: 60 lbs, 6 reps
3rd set: 65 lbs, 6 reps
4th set: 65 lbs, 6 reps

**Prince** · 06-13-2009, 09:45 AM

June 12, 2009

YouTube Video

FLAT BENCH DUMBBELL PRESS

1st set: 50 lbs, 8 reps
2nd set: 70 lbs, 8 reps
3rd set: 90 lbs, 8 reps
4th set: 95 lbs, 8 reps

INCLINE DUMBBELL PRESS

1st set: 65 lbs, 8 reps
2nd set: 70 lbs, 8 reps
3rd set: 70 lbs, 8 reps
4th set: 80 lbs, 8 reps

DUMBBELL FLIES

1st set: 40 lbs, 8 reps
2nd set: 40 lbs, 8 reps
3rd set: 50 lbs, 6 reps
4th set: 50 lbs, 6 reps

PECK DECK FLIES

1st set: 150 lbs, 8 reps
2nd set: 165 lbs, 8 reps
3rd set: 170 lbs, 8 reps
4th set: 150 lbs, 13 reps

(High reps on the last set, trying to shock the muscle on my last chest exercise, last set.)

TRICEPS PUSH DOWNS WITH EZ CURL BAR

1st set: 80 lbs, 20 reps
2nd set: 80 lbs, 20 reps
3rd set: 80 lbs, 20 reps
4th set: 80 lbs, 20 reps

I did four sets of twenty because by now my tris were halfway worn out from the chest work. Doing high reps just shocks the muscle and really burns it out. The tris are not a big muscle group – small muscle groups need high volume, high reps, they can take a lot of punishment and recuperate faster.

Truth is I never did that much for triceps, which might surprise you given my triceps. A lot of my triceps development came from working heavy weight on chest and shoulders.

My shoulders were sore from the last workout. Remember, I’m only three weeks in after a long hiatus. The shoulders were still regenerating so I let ‘em alone. Listen to your body, train hard, but also train smart.

I weighed in today at 217. I’m estimating a five pound fat loss due to cardio and a lean diet. This subtracts from my overall weight, but not from the total of added lean muscle, which I calculate at about 16 lbs, right on schedule.

The overall weight puts me behind schedule, but for good reason. I’m trying to get big AND cut. We’ll see what happens, I’m working with my long-time custom nutritional ingredient specialist to get a boost in coming weeks. I look forward to seeing how that shakes out, cause I suspect the gains ahead aren’t going to come quite as easy. I’ll let you know. Didn’t have time to snap the pic today, I will definitely have it up tomorrow.

– Kevin

TrojanMan60563 · 06-13-2009, 12:02 PM

"custom nutritional ingredient specialist"....I thought they closed down balco?

But seriously what a title! And 16lb of muscle in three weeks in insane. I think would have been cool had he done a body composition test before and after so what changes are made are documented. I'd like to know how he came to his figure of 16lbs of muscle gained even though he lost weight. I'm not saying its false, but we have discussed this on forums a lot, and I've concluded that you can't lose weight and gain muscle even on steroids. I don't know if I agree with that, but that seems to be the overall thoughts of the members. And in Kevins case he lost weight, and gained a very large amount of muscle.

**Prince** · 06-13-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

"custom nutritional ingredient specialist"....I thought they closed down balco?

But seriously what a title! And 16lb of muscle in three weeks in insane. I think would have been cool had he done a body composition test before and after so what changes are made are documented. I'd like to know how he came to his figure of 16lbs of muscle gained even though he lost weight. I'm not saying its false, but we have discussed this on forums a lot, and I've concluded that you can't lose weight and gain muscle even on steroids. I don't know if I agree with that, but that seems to be the overall thoughts of the members. And in Kevins case he lost weight, and gained a very large amount of muscle.

the thing that everyone seems to forget is he is/was a pro bodybuilder with great genetics and muscle memory, you cannot compare his progress to the average person.

juggernaut · 06-13-2009, 04:38 PM

any word on what the "ingredients" are of his supplement line yet?

TrojanMan60563 · 06-13-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince

the thing that everyone seems to forget is he is/was a pro bodybuilder with great genetics and muscle memory, you cannot compare his progress to the average person.

I agree with that, but gaining significant amounts of muscle while losing fat is considered not possible. I understand genetics and muscle memory play a huge roll in his rapid gains, but does that allow someone the ability to do the impossible? I can't wrap my mind around how you can lose weight, and gain that much muscle off a diet that is promoting fat loss. Genetics is a term used too loose IMO. Our bodies all work the same, some just respond better then others. I'd like to think his body is using 100% of his food, and his fat stores to build 16 pounds of muscle, but I don't think the body reguardless of genetics is programed to do that.

juggernaut · 06-14-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I'd like to think his body is using 100% of his food, and his fat stores to build 16 pounds of muscle, but I don't think the body regardless of genetics is programed to do that.

I agree with this. Unless he is perfectly dialed in, I truly doubt what KL is posting as truth.

T_man · 06-14-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I agree with that, but gaining significant amounts of muscle while losing fat is considered not possible. I understand genetics and muscle memory play a huge roll in his rapid gains, but does that allow someone the ability to do the impossible? I can't wrap my mind around how you can lose weight, and gain that much muscle off a diet that is promoting fat loss. Genetics is a term used too loose IMO. Our bodies all work the same, some just respond better then others. I'd like to think his body is using 100% of his food, and his fat stores to build 16 pounds of muscle, but I don't think the body reguardless of genetics is programed to do that.

I agree with this. I cant possibly see him gaining 16lbs of muscle in 3 weeks. Maybe 6-8 due to muscle memory, and the rest being water & glycogen but definately not all muscle.
It's just impossible. Most people don't gain that in 16 weeks!

**Prince** · 06-14-2009, 02:37 PM

June 14, 2009

End Of Week 3, Bustin’ Out Some Poses

YouTube Video

Weight: 217 lbs
Arm: 19 inches

I gained 16 lbs of muscle, but I lost 5 lbs of fat cause of cardio and lean diet. That puts me on schedule for adding 5 lbs of lean muscle a week, but behind schedule for overall weight. We’ll see what happens in coming weeks.

PainandGain · 06-14-2009, 02:40 PM

Pro-hormones

TrojanMan60563 · 06-15-2009, 02:07 AM

"I gained 16 lbs of muscle, but I lost 5 lbs of fat cause of cardio and lean diet. That puts me on schedule for adding 5 lbs of lean muscle a week"

This statement is an oxymoron. To tell people you gain 16 of muscle and lost 5 pounds of fat in 3 weeks due to a lean diet, and cardio makes him sound stupid. And how is that combo the ticket to gaining 5lbs of muscle a week? Isn't there a study out there the average lifter gains about 9lbs of muscle a year on a consistant routine? I get that genetics alter this, but 5lbs a week? People would be thrilled to have these results taking 1g of test a week while on dbols.

rahaas · 06-15-2009, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince

the thing that everyone seems to forget is he is/was a pro bodybuilder with great genetics and muscle memory, you cannot compare his progress to the average person.

Don't think it's so much forgetting as don't understand it because most of us don't have it or have ever had muscle memory occur.

**Prince** · 06-15-2009, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rahaas

Don't think it's so much forgetting as don't understand it because most of us don't have it or have ever had muscle memory occur.

well, I have done it... when I hurt my back two different times I stopped lifting for over 6 months and lost just about all of my muscle, in fact when I competed in 2004 I had suffered an upper back nerve injury 8 month before that show. its pretty amazing how your muscles will blow back up in a short time.

Malcom · 06-15-2009, 11:38 AM

i can see y people like Lou dont wanna let go on the roids

Malcom · 06-15-2009, 11:41 AM

he has excess skin on his belly, i just noticed

TrojanMan60563 · 06-15-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Malcom

he has excess skin on his belly, i just noticed

probably a combo of size loss, and mostly age.

Malcom · 06-15-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

probably a combo of size loss, and mostly age.

Thought that too

**Prince** · 06-15-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Malcom

i can see y people like Lou dont wanna let go on the roids

Ferrigno? I highly doubt he uses steroids, if anything maybe HRT.

06-09-2009, 03:18 PM	#92
Gazhole iwillmakeyousmelltheglove Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 7,999 Photos: 19	I guess it depends on what food we're talking about. From a purely biochemical standpoint a protein with a higher biological value will be far more useful to the body, and the less digesting that needs to go on the quicker the body can actually use it. Generally a protein powder is far more easily digested than say, a chicken breast. That and protein powders are made especially to have as high a biological value as possible. Powdered egg whites would also be up there near the top spot, which is essentially a protein powder anyway. Whether or not you can tell the difference between the effectiveness of protein powder or food is another matter. For one thing I would just rather take a shake than chow down on some chicken right away, lol. http://sdatrainingprograms.blogspot.com - Updated 13/11/09 ***READ THIS FOR TRAINING INFO:*** http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/99879-articles-ironmagazineforums-members.html If you want to win the fight, say "I BELIEVE".

06-10-2009, 06:07 AM	#95
Gazhole iwillmakeyousmelltheglove Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wales, UK Posts: 7,999 Photos: 19	Fair play to him, he's still a built dude even after all that time off. http://sdatrainingprograms.blogspot.com - Updated 13/11/09 ***READ THIS FOR TRAINING INFO:*** http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/training/99879-articles-ironmagazineforums-members.html If you want to win the fight, say "I BELIEVE".

06-10-2009, 07:02 AM	#96
rahaas Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Delaware Posts: 880 Photos: 1	He must have kept up on some training while pursuing other ventures even though he may deny it. *No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.*

06-10-2009, 08:31 AM	#97
T_man Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,244 Photos: 1	He does decline bench for his chest. Interesting. Might start some myself Cheat on your girlfriend, not on your meal.

06-13-2009, 12:02 PM	#105
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	"custom nutritional ingredient specialist"....I thought they closed down balco? But seriously what a title! And 16lb of muscle in three weeks in insane. I think would have been cool had he done a body composition test before and after so what changes are made are documented. I'd like to know how he came to his figure of 16lbs of muscle gained even though he lost weight. I'm not saying its false, but we have discussed this on forums a lot, and I've concluded that you can't lose weight and gain muscle even on steroids. I don't know if I agree with that, but that seems to be the overall thoughts of the members. And in Kevins case he lost weight, and gained a very large amount of muscle. Last edited by TrojanMan60563 : 06-13-2009 at 12:13 PM.

06-13-2009, 04:38 PM	#107
juggernaut Creator of Chaos Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 5,463 Photos: 2	any word on what the "ingredients" are of his supplement line yet?

06-14-2009, 02:40 PM	#112
PainandGain Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Tx USA Posts: 305	Pro-hormones

06-15-2009, 02:07 AM	#113
TrojanMan60563 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The U-S of A Posts: 3,391 Photos: 1	"I gained 16 lbs of muscle, but I lost 5 lbs of fat cause of cardio and lean diet. That puts me on schedule for adding 5 lbs of lean muscle a week" This statement is an oxymoron. To tell people you gain 16 of muscle and lost 5 pounds of fat in 3 weeks due to a lean diet, and cardio makes him sound stupid. And how is that combo the ticket to gaining 5lbs of muscle a week? Isn't there a study out there the average lifter gains about 9lbs of muscle a year on a consistant routine? I get that genetics alter this, but 5lbs a week? People would be thrilled to have these results taking 1g of test a week while on dbols. Last edited by TrojanMan60563 : 06-15-2009 at 02:22 AM.

06-15-2009, 11:38 AM	#116
Malcom Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 67	i can see y people like Lou dont wanna let go on the roids

06-15-2009, 11:41 AM	#117
Malcom Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 67	he has excess skin on his belly, i just noticed

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