A log of Designer Supplements' Cherry Ice Xceed

emitecaps · 12-12-2006, 09:09 PM

I'm not sure where the appropriate forum to post this is, so I'm posting it here.

By now most of you are familiar with this creatine/NO pre workout product so no need to discuss the ingredients. Besides product info is readily available thus little need for me to repost it here.

I have previously used the Lemonade flavor and already apparent is the new container. The old one presumably had some issues that led to the product solidifying into a solid mass. One could easily crush this clump up and use it but it was a minor inconvenience. Given that absolute humidity is fairly low in the winter months I doubt clumping will be an issue so how much the new packaging helps is unknown. I can say though that the product shows zero signs of clumping and is in a fine powder. Cee tends to clump a bit but there is zero clumping in the repackaged Xceed.

emitecaps · 12-12-2006, 09:24 PM

Mixibility: This product mixes almost instantly in as little as 6oz of water. The older Xceed which had a tendancy to clump required that you smash the chunks to get it to dissolve completely. Other cee products including No-Xplode also had this tendancy. But the fine powder in this container mixes isntantly. I can throw a scoop in a cup and add the water and it's completely dissolved. No need for a spoon at all. I give it a 5 out of 5 in terms of mixibility.

Taste: Cee has a distinct pungent taste that is hard to mask hence why DS probably initially chose a lemon flavor. I had some reservations about a fruit flavored cee product and how well it could cover the poor tasting cee. To my surprise the cherry flavor is quite good. You can still taste the CEE but it's like someone mixed vodka and some cherry flavoring. DS recommends using cold water and this does help reduce the flavor of the CEE, but even in warm water the flavoring is still good. I am quite used to the CEE so the flavor doesn't bother me. So I had to try it on an unsuspecting friend. This is where the cherry flavored vodka shooter comparison comes in and I think that's a fair assement of the taste. In general I would give it a 4 out of 5 for taste as the CEE is still apparent. But for a product containing cee I'd give it 4.5 or maybe even a 5. I'm getting tired of lemonade and this is a refreshing taste.

emitecaps · 12-12-2006, 09:37 PM

Mountain biking and Xceed.

This being the first dose I didn't expect too much plus I've been using creatine quite regularly in the past. There was a noticeable increase in the pump effect which was readily apparent biking uphill. Blood pooled in the legs inparticular the quads causing the muscles to feel heavy and IMO they fatigued quicker. Nitric Oxide boosting products typically cause this and thus require a half dose so as to not negatively impact endurance. Of course when lifting it's a different story. The skin bursting pumps feel like your muscles are getting a great workout and if endurance is sacrificed a bit it's a fair trade-off. Perhaps a half dose should be used when doing strenous cardio, enough to increase bloodflow but not to the point where it pools in the muscles. To me it seesm that a full dose increase vasodialtion to the point that it will actually constrict the veins or arteries once the muscle becomes engorged. Blood fills the muscle and pushes against the arteries cutting off the blood flow and creating a pooling effect. So you actually get reduced oxygen supply to the muscles and hence why fatigue sets in earlier. This may not be hte case but this is what my experience has led me to believe.

WBM · 12-13-2006, 07:59 PM

Glad you started this. You got Lemon?

emitecaps · 12-13-2006, 10:22 PM

I got Cherry though I've used the Lemon in the past. One thing I forgot to mention was that it mixes into a mostly clear liquid. There's no articial coloring like in some other drinks. I actually like this as it doesn't look like I'm drinking Kool-aid and you don't get the subsequent lip coloring and stainging that makes you look ridiculous.

Today was a rest day so I'm taking the Xceed at night to see if the vasodialation effects will keep my legs warmer when I sleep. For some reason whenever I sleep my legs drop in temp no matter how well they are covered and kept warm.

Twin Peak · 12-14-2006, 02:55 PM

Actually, the cherry mixes quite well with vodka, not that I have ever tried that.

ReproMan · 12-14-2006, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WBM

Glad you started this.

Ditto. I'll be along for the ride.

emitecaps · 12-14-2006, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin Peak

Actually, the cherry mixes quite well with vodka, not that I have ever tried that.

Well now I have to try it out, of course exercising moderation and common sense. Now while you don't condone this any advice you can offer? Is it possible it could exacerbate dehydration that ethanol normally induces? Perhaps not in muscle cells but in the organs? Or perhaps it puts too much strain on the kidneys due to the creatine? I would think it should actually stem the negative effects of alcohol but clarification would be appreciated, strictly for educational purposes, of course.

emitecaps · 12-14-2006, 08:24 PM

Leg workout and Xceed
I didn't bother to record poundages nor reps used so this post will be a bit brief. I avoid squats due to past neck and lower back injuries so lifts primarily consist of hack squats, leg presses, leg extension, lying leg curls, lunges, and seated and standing calf raises. The pump was noticed almost immediately and to such an extent that range of motion was inhibited. Each set saw a drop in reps but no more than 2 off of normal. The muscles seemed to fatigue quicker and this coupled with reduced range of motion should lead to a poor workout. But such is not the case, the pump improves concentration as you can feel the blood in the muscles.

One thing this product lacks that other preworkout cee/no products contain is a stim. The energy boost can aid immensely and thus hte exclusion of one in Xceed is a bit of a disappointment. But I can understand their reasons for hte exclusion. If you work out late a night you don't want a stim that will keep you up for 6 hours or more. People also tolerate stims differently and dosing can vary greatly thus it's best to use the stim and doseage that suits you best.

Twin Peak · 12-14-2006, 09:31 PM

Pop two basic cuts, and you'll have your stim. As cheap as BC is, its not biggie. And by not including it, it offers flexiblity.

As to the vodka, I was just kidding. Its not like I sat at the Europa expo adding absolute into the cherry xceed and drinking it all night.

ReproMan · 12-15-2006, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emitecaps

Leg workout and Xceed
I didn't bother to record poundages nor reps used so this post will be a bit brief. I avoid squats due to past neck and lower back injuries so lifts primarily consist of hack squats, leg presses, leg extension, lying leg curls, lunges, and seated and standing calf raises. The pump was noticed almost immediately and to such an extent that range of motion was inhibited. Each set saw a drop in reps but no more than 2 off of normal. The muscles seemed to fatigue quicker and this coupled with reduced range of motion should lead to a poor workout. But such is not the case, the pump improves concentration as you can feel the blood in the muscles.

One thing this product lacks that other preworkout cee/no products contain is a stim. The energy boost can aid immensely and thus hte exclusion of one in Xceed is a bit of a disappointment. But I can understand their reasons for hte exclusion. If you work out late a night you don't want a stim that will keep you up for 6 hours or more. People also tolerate stims differently and dosing can vary greatly thus it's best to use the stim and doseage that suits you best.

This little tidbit just sold me, before I even see the results of this journal. I've been looking for a good pre-w/o product with no stim because I workout after 6PM. Lookin good!

emitecaps · 12-15-2006, 11:10 PM

I used to workout after 6pm too but I'd be dragging ass and I'd lose focus and drive 30 mins into the workout. Taking a stim would keep me up until 2am and wasn't feasible. Now if there was a decent stim with a short half life and last a little over an hour I'd be all over it. As a result I have to limit night time lifting usually when I do splits so I'm only workoing out for 30mins per session.

I guess this is part of the Stackables idea. You can customize or stack products to suit your needs instead of having to follow a one size fits all design like in No-Xplode. Besides with the latter product the caff seems to lose effect after two or so weeks and thus another type of stim is needed. So even though it may cost a little bit more to buy two separate products the freedom in customisation that it offers is worth it as you can tailor it towards your needs.

Twin Peak · 12-16-2006, 06:52 AM

Bingo.

fUnc17 · 12-16-2006, 06:13 PM

Always had problems with the old container. Moisture always found a way in and clumped the CEE up and turned it brown. Lemon ice was a great flavor, Im going to give cherry a try in a couple weeks

emitecaps · 12-20-2006, 10:02 PM

The new container and other ingredients should solve that problem. I've experienced the same problems and the new design seems to have solved those past issues.

I tried cycling and Xceed again but this time I used it during the ride. The goal was to see if I could increase endurance but again it seemed liek a hinderance. After about 40 mins it started to kick in and the burn increased and the muscles felt very heavy. I had to cut the ride short as a result. Next time I'll try using a half dose. I also tried taking some anti-oxs before the ride as they should help for a number of reasons. In theory it may diminish the nitric oxide boosting effects but it almost seemed to do the opposite. Perhaps the anti-oxs prevent the formation of peroxynitrite and dinitrotrioxide so in turn you get higher levels of nitric oxide, even though it appears to be a pro-oxidant.

emitecaps · 12-20-2006, 10:17 PM

Arms Day

standing barbell curl 2x8
standing dumbbell curl 3x8
hammer curls 2x10
tricep pushdowns 3x8
lying tricep extensions 2x6
dumbbell wrist curls 2x8

Not sure if I want to make the weights public as there are somewhat pitiful. I'll log rep weight % changed though. The pumps were in full effect though and range of motion was limited with bicep curls. I could really focus on the muscular contraction in part due to the pumps. Arms were still pumped hours later and if trends hold true there should be a decent amount of DOMS tomorrow.

emitecaps · 12-22-2006, 07:38 PM

Back/Chest/ Shoulders day

Flat bench press 4 sets of 6 reps
Flat bench flyes 2 sets of 10

Seated rows 2 sets of 8
Lat pulldowns 4 sets of 10
Deadlifts 2 sets of 6

Overhead dumbbell press 2 sets of 8
Lateral dumbbell raises 2 sets of 8

Another great workout as I found it easy to maintain focus. Pump was a bit inhibiting though as I noticed some tightness in my lower back. I was able to increase weight though adding 10lbs to lat pulldowns and overhead presses. I was still pumped 4 hours after completion of workout, not to the same degree but enough to be noticeable in the mirror.

emitecaps · 12-22-2006, 07:46 PM

Other night I had a cold glass of Xceed and it's not exactly clear so my girlfriend was wondering what it was. she had a sniff and noticed the cherry so she took a sip. Instantly she mistook it for vodka + cherry flavoring and wanted a glass. So she proceeded to look in the kitchen for the vodka and mysterious cherry flavored product but couldn't find any. Finally had to explain to her what it was and mixed her a glass so she could verify. One thing I forgot to mention about the taste which she helped to remind me was aftertaste. There is no lingering taste of CEE but the cherry lingers slightly. With other products you can taste the CEE minutes later but not so with this product. Plus it has a very pleasant cherry smell though I don't think I'll be doing any lines of it.

Also, I'm pretty sure I'll be persuaded to mix some Xceed with some Grey Goose tomorrow night. Details likely to follow.

**nni** · 12-22-2006, 08:21 PM

nice, good luck with that.

Twin Peak · 12-23-2006, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emitecaps

Other night I had a cold glass of Xceed and it's not exactly clear so my girlfriend was wondering what it was. she had a sniff and noticed the cherry so she took a sip. Instantly she mistook it for vodka + cherry flavoring and wanted a glass. So she proceeded to look in the kitchen for the vodka and mysterious cherry flavored product but couldn't find any. Finally had to explain to her what it was and mixed her a glass so she could verify. One thing I forgot to mention about the taste which she helped to remind me was aftertaste. There is no lingering taste of CEE but the cherry lingers slightly. With other products you can taste the CEE minutes later but not so with this product. Plus it has a very pleasant cherry smell though I don't think I'll be doing any lines of it.

Also, I'm pretty sure I'll be persuaded to mix some Xceed with some Grey Goose tomorrow night. Details likely to follow.

Worked well with absolute.

WBM · 12-23-2006, 08:21 AM

After all of the jokes about this, you're seriously going to try it. I'm curious to know what you think of it.

Good to hear that you're enjoying some of the extra benefits. The focus is nice...especially in a crowded, noisy gym.

WBM · 12-28-2006, 04:51 PM

Where'd you go?

emitecaps · 01-02-2007, 11:18 PM

Sorry, was on a bit of an extended vacation. Went to see some relatives up in Colorado and well the weather there has been interesting to say the least. Wasn't able to get any cycling in for obvious reasons but did some snowboarding while up there. The increased vasodialtion helps keep one warmer especially when going from sunny Cali to snowy climates. Didn't experience the numbness I normally get in my extremities, especially the hands and feet, when out in the cold.

As for the Xceed and vodka, I tried that on several occassions. Seeing as how I'm a moderate drinker I didn't notice much. Drank a bit more on New Year's Eve but didn't get wasted, just had a minor buzz. About half of the time, when I consume over 12oz of vodka I'll have some moderate DOMS but didn't experience any on the 1st. Can't say Xceed helped but it didn't seem to hurt, at least no readily observable effects. My girlfriend loves the cherry flavoring in her vodka and she'll easily use a full scoop in her drink whereas I find it a bit too sweet and only use a half dosing. She's never used any NO type products so Xceed had interesting effects on her, mainly increasing her arousal and sensitivity to touch/friction. That is a quite the welcomed effect and will ensure my future purchase.

emitecaps · 01-02-2007, 11:31 PM

Didn't lift at all while up in CO since there weren't any gyms that would let me lift without joining for a year. And since I train at a non franchise gymm I was basically SOL. Plus I was on vacation and was forced to spend time with relatives. But the week off was welcomed and when I hit the gym today I was refreshed and exuberant.

Today happened to be a leg day and while I normally dislike training legs, I was happy just to be back home and traiing that it didn't matter. Strength was up noticeably as I increased my squat by 20lbs and leg presses 30lbs. Pump was again limiting range of motion so knees to chest on leg presses was out of the question.

Squats 3x10,2x8, knocked out 8 reps easily on both sets so I bumped it 20lbs for 2setsx5reps
Leg presses 2x8, then bumped +30lbs 2x8
seated calf raises 4x8 didn't feel like increasing weight as legs felt too tight.
20mins cycling on stationary bike.

It's hard to say if the Xceed was responisble for the strength increasess or if the time off helped. And being the new year with new resolve and motivation also probably help contribute to the increased weights. But so far this year is off to a good start for me. Hopefully everyone had a good holiday period and the new year brings you all much more success and happiness.

WBM · 01-03-2007, 08:04 PM

Nice job on bumping up the weights. I'd like to see if you have subsequent increases...

emitecaps · 01-03-2007, 09:14 PM

I'm hoping that the strength continues to increase. I'm also noticing the volumizing effects of the creatine as well. There's a noticeable increase in muscle fullness that one gets from creatine products.

I haven't noticed a detectable increase in endurance when cycling though. I've used half dose pre and another half dose during or after a ride but can't say it's helped. But then again the ride is only 50 mins so it's hard to notice a difference. I'll try riding early in the morning since the cold weather always negatively impacts endurance. Blood flow to muscles is decreased and cramping is a prevalent side but once I'm warmed up the endurance isn't as bad. I'm not straining to catch my breath. My hope is Xceed will increase bloodflow to muscles on the cold mornings and improve my cardio. Seeing as how Xceed made me feel warmer when snowboarding I think it will prove effect when cycling in the morning as well.

emitecaps · 01-04-2007, 11:22 PM

Noticed a decrease in muscle soreness today, so while Xceed didn't aid much in endurance it has improved recovery. Soreness is probably half of what it normally is so I rode again but using the same pattern as yesterday. Results were pretty much the same though I would say endurance improved a bit due to improved recovery. The soreness will usually negatively impact endurance but not so today, or at least not as noticably as usualy on back ro back rides.

emitecaps · 01-08-2007, 10:26 PM

Back/Chest/ Shoulders day

Flat bench press 4 sets of 6,6,4,3 reps (last two sets increase of 15lbs)
Flat bench flyes 2 sets of 10

Seated rows 2 sets of 8
Lat pulldowns 4 sets of 10,10,7,5 (increase 10lbs per set)
Deadlifts 2 sets of 6

Overhead dumbbell press 2 sets of 8
Lateral dumbbell raises 2 sets of 8

Was able to increase weight on some exercises but it was a bit mroe taxing on the CNS than I anticipated so I was unable to increae reps or weights on other exercises. Pump was good albeit a bit diminished compared to the first couple of weeks. Recovery does seem to be improving though and DOMS is much less pronounced.

WBM · 01-10-2007, 06:54 PM

Nice nice. Congrats on the increases. I'm sure that kicking your own butt on the first exercise did you in and you didn't really need the increases elsewhere. Should be interested to see how your body deals with the increase next workout.

emitecaps · 01-11-2007, 10:32 AM

There was a substantial increase in DOMS the next day. I was still able to ride the next morning though. The Xceed helped the muscles warm up quicker so I could push a lot harder quicker into the ride. I noticed the sorenes in the chest and shoulders while trying to bike uphill. This did unfortunately inhibit output as I couldn't get good leverage to really push uphill.

12-12-2006, 09:09 PM	#1
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	A log of Designer Supplements' Cherry Ice Xceed BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com I'm not sure where the appropriate forum to post this is, so I'm posting it here. By now most of you are familiar with this creatine/NO pre workout product so no need to discuss the ingredients. Besides product info is readily available thus little need for me to repost it here. I have previously used the Lemonade flavor and already apparent is the new container. The old one presumably had some issues that led to the product solidifying into a solid mass. One could easily crush this clump up and use it but it was a minor inconvenience. Given that absolute humidity is fairly low in the winter months I doubt clumping will be an issue so how much the new packaging helps is unknown. I can say though that the product shows zero signs of clumping and is in a fine powder. Cee tends to clump a bit but there is zero clumping in the repackaged Xceed.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-12-2006, 09:24 PM	#2
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Mixibility: This product mixes almost instantly in as little as 6oz of water. The older Xceed which had a tendancy to clump required that you smash the chunks to get it to dissolve completely. Other cee products including No-Xplode also had this tendancy. But the fine powder in this container mixes isntantly. I can throw a scoop in a cup and add the water and it's completely dissolved. No need for a spoon at all. I give it a 5 out of 5 in terms of mixibility. Taste: Cee has a distinct pungent taste that is hard to mask hence why DS probably initially chose a lemon flavor. I had some reservations about a fruit flavored cee product and how well it could cover the poor tasting cee. To my surprise the cherry flavor is quite good. You can still taste the CEE but it's like someone mixed vodka and some cherry flavoring. DS recommends using cold water and this does help reduce the flavor of the CEE, but even in warm water the flavoring is still good. I am quite used to the CEE so the flavor doesn't bother me. So I had to try it on an unsuspecting friend. This is where the cherry flavored vodka shooter comparison comes in and I think that's a fair assement of the taste. In general I would give it a 4 out of 5 for taste as the CEE is still apparent. But for a product containing cee I'd give it 4.5 or maybe even a 5. I'm getting tired of lemonade and this is a refreshing taste.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-12-2006, 09:37 PM	#3
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Mountain biking and Xceed. This being the first dose I didn't expect too much plus I've been using creatine quite regularly in the past. There was a noticeable increase in the pump effect which was readily apparent biking uphill. Blood pooled in the legs inparticular the quads causing the muscles to feel heavy and IMO they fatigued quicker. Nitric Oxide boosting products typically cause this and thus require a half dose so as to not negatively impact endurance. Of course when lifting it's a different story. The skin bursting pumps feel like your muscles are getting a great workout and if endurance is sacrificed a bit it's a fair trade-off. Perhaps a half dose should be used when doing strenous cardio, enough to increase bloodflow but not to the point where it pools in the muscles. To me it seesm that a full dose increase vasodialtion to the point that it will actually constrict the veins or arteries once the muscle becomes engorged. Blood fills the muscle and pushes against the arteries cutting off the blood flow and creating a pooling effect. So you actually get reduced oxygen supply to the muscles and hence why fatigue sets in earlier. This may not be hte case but this is what my experience has led me to believe.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-13-2006, 07:59 PM	#4
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	Glad you started this. You got Lemon?
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	www.designersupps.com www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-13-2006, 10:22 PM	#5
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	I got Cherry though I've used the Lemon in the past. One thing I forgot to mention was that it mixes into a mostly clear liquid. There's no articial coloring like in some other drinks. I actually like this as it doesn't look like I'm drinking Kool-aid and you don't get the subsequent lip coloring and stainging that makes you look ridiculous. Today was a rest day so I'm taking the Xceed at night to see if the vasodialation effects will keep my legs warmer when I sleep. For some reason whenever I sleep my legs drop in temp no matter how well they are covered and kept warm.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-14-2006, 02:55 PM	#6
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	Actually, the cherry mixes quite well with vodka, not that I have ever tried that.
	www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-14-2006, 08:24 PM	#9
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Leg workout and Xceed I didn't bother to record poundages nor reps used so this post will be a bit brief. I avoid squats due to past neck and lower back injuries so lifts primarily consist of hack squats, leg presses, leg extension, lying leg curls, lunges, and seated and standing calf raises. The pump was noticed almost immediately and to such an extent that range of motion was inhibited. Each set saw a drop in reps but no more than 2 off of normal. The muscles seemed to fatigue quicker and this coupled with reduced range of motion should lead to a poor workout. But such is not the case, the pump improves concentration as you can feel the blood in the muscles. One thing this product lacks that other preworkout cee/no products contain is a stim. The energy boost can aid immensely and thus hte exclusion of one in Xceed is a bit of a disappointment. But I can understand their reasons for hte exclusion. If you work out late a night you don't want a stim that will keep you up for 6 hours or more. People also tolerate stims differently and dosing can vary greatly thus it's best to use the stim and doseage that suits you best.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-14-2006, 09:31 PM	#10
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	Pop two basic cuts, and you'll have your stim. As cheap as BC is, its not biggie. And by not including it, it offers flexiblity. As to the vodka, I was just kidding. Its not like I sat at the Europa expo adding absolute into the cherry xceed and drinking it all night.
	www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-15-2006, 11:10 PM	#12
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	I used to workout after 6pm too but I'd be dragging ass and I'd lose focus and drive 30 mins into the workout. Taking a stim would keep me up until 2am and wasn't feasible. Now if there was a decent stim with a short half life and last a little over an hour I'd be all over it. As a result I have to limit night time lifting usually when I do splits so I'm only workoing out for 30mins per session. I guess this is part of the Stackables idea. You can customize or stack products to suit your needs instead of having to follow a one size fits all design like in No-Xplode. Besides with the latter product the caff seems to lose effect after two or so weeks and thus another type of stim is needed. So even though it may cost a little bit more to buy two separate products the freedom in customisation that it offers is worth it as you can tailor it towards your needs.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-16-2006, 06:52 AM	#13
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,967	Bingo.
	www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-16-2006, 06:13 PM	#14
fUnc17 MANIAC Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Jersey Shore BJJ Posts: 1,846 Photos: 12	Always had problems with the old container. Moisture always found a way in and clumped the CEE up and turned it brown. Lemon ice was a great flavor, Im going to give cherry a try in a couple weeks
	Accept the necessity to take a step back in order to take two steps forward. Deadlifts, Presses, Pistols and Pullups

12-20-2006, 10:02 PM	#15
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	The new container and other ingredients should solve that problem. I've experienced the same problems and the new design seems to have solved those past issues. I tried cycling and Xceed again but this time I used it during the ride. The goal was to see if I could increase endurance but again it seemed liek a hinderance. After about 40 mins it started to kick in and the burn increased and the muscles felt very heavy. I had to cut the ride short as a result. Next time I'll try using a half dose. I also tried taking some anti-oxs before the ride as they should help for a number of reasons. In theory it may diminish the nitric oxide boosting effects but it almost seemed to do the opposite. Perhaps the anti-oxs prevent the formation of peroxynitrite and dinitrotrioxide so in turn you get higher levels of nitric oxide, even though it appears to be a pro-oxidant.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-20-2006, 10:17 PM	#16
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Arms Day standing barbell curl 2x8 standing dumbbell curl 3x8 hammer curls 2x10 tricep pushdowns 3x8 lying tricep extensions 2x6 dumbbell wrist curls 2x8 Not sure if I want to make the weights public as there are somewhat pitiful. I'll log rep weight % changed though. The pumps were in full effect though and range of motion was limited with bicep curls. I could really focus on the muscular contraction in part due to the pumps. Arms were still pumped hours later and if trends hold true there should be a decent amount of DOMS tomorrow.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-22-2006, 07:38 PM	#17
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Back/Chest/ Shoulders day Flat bench press 4 sets of 6 reps Flat bench flyes 2 sets of 10 Seated rows 2 sets of 8 Lat pulldowns 4 sets of 10 Deadlifts 2 sets of 6 Overhead dumbbell press 2 sets of 8 Lateral dumbbell raises 2 sets of 8 Another great workout as I found it easy to maintain focus. Pump was a bit inhibiting though as I noticed some tightness in my lower back. I was able to increase weight though adding 10lbs to lat pulldowns and overhead presses. I was still pumped 4 hours after completion of workout, not to the same degree but enough to be noticeable in the mirror.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-22-2006, 07:46 PM	#18
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Other night I had a cold glass of Xceed and it's not exactly clear so my girlfriend was wondering what it was. she had a sniff and noticed the cherry so she took a sip. Instantly she mistook it for vodka + cherry flavoring and wanted a glass. So she proceeded to look in the kitchen for the vodka and mysterious cherry flavored product but couldn't find any. Finally had to explain to her what it was and mixed her a glass so she could verify. One thing I forgot to mention about the taste which she helped to remind me was aftertaste. There is no lingering taste of CEE but the cherry lingers slightly. With other products you can taste the CEE minutes later but not so with this product. Plus it has a very pleasant cherry smell though I don't think I'll be doing any lines of it. Also, I'm pretty sure I'll be persuaded to mix some Xceed with some Grey Goose tomorrow night. Details likely to follow.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

12-22-2006, 08:21 PM	#19
nni Designer Supplements Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,013 Blog Entries: 1	nice, good luck with that.
	www.DesignerSupps.com www.intelligentdesignmag.com Lean Xtreme 2.0 now available.

12-23-2006, 08:21 AM	#21
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	After all of the jokes about this, you're seriously going to try it. I'm curious to know what you think of it. Good to hear that you're enjoying some of the extra benefits. The focus is nice...especially in a crowded, noisy gym.
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	www.designersupps.com www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-28-2006, 04:51 PM	#22
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	Where'd you go?
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	www.designersupps.com www.intelligentdesignmag.com

01-02-2007, 11:18 PM	#23
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Sorry, was on a bit of an extended vacation. Went to see some relatives up in Colorado and well the weather there has been interesting to say the least. Wasn't able to get any cycling in for obvious reasons but did some snowboarding while up there. The increased vasodialtion helps keep one warmer especially when going from sunny Cali to snowy climates. Didn't experience the numbness I normally get in my extremities, especially the hands and feet, when out in the cold. As for the Xceed and vodka, I tried that on several occassions. Seeing as how I'm a moderate drinker I didn't notice much. Drank a bit more on New Year's Eve but didn't get wasted, just had a minor buzz. About half of the time, when I consume over 12oz of vodka I'll have some moderate DOMS but didn't experience any on the 1st. Can't say Xceed helped but it didn't seem to hurt, at least no readily observable effects. My girlfriend loves the cherry flavoring in her vodka and she'll easily use a full scoop in her drink whereas I find it a bit too sweet and only use a half dosing. She's never used any NO type products so Xceed had interesting effects on her, mainly increasing her arousal and sensitivity to touch/friction. That is a quite the welcomed effect and will ensure my future purchase.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

01-02-2007, 11:31 PM	#24
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Didn't lift at all while up in CO since there weren't any gyms that would let me lift without joining for a year. And since I train at a non franchise gymm I was basically SOL. Plus I was on vacation and was forced to spend time with relatives. But the week off was welcomed and when I hit the gym today I was refreshed and exuberant. Today happened to be a leg day and while I normally dislike training legs, I was happy just to be back home and traiing that it didn't matter. Strength was up noticeably as I increased my squat by 20lbs and leg presses 30lbs. Pump was again limiting range of motion so knees to chest on leg presses was out of the question. Squats 3x10,2x8, knocked out 8 reps easily on both sets so I bumped it 20lbs for 2setsx5reps Leg presses 2x8, then bumped +30lbs 2x8 seated calf raises 4x8 didn't feel like increasing weight as legs felt too tight. 20mins cycling on stationary bike. It's hard to say if the Xceed was responisble for the strength increasess or if the time off helped. And being the new year with new resolve and motivation also probably help contribute to the increased weights. But so far this year is off to a good start for me. Hopefully everyone had a good holiday period and the new year brings you all much more success and happiness.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

01-03-2007, 08:04 PM	#25
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	Nice job on bumping up the weights. I'd like to see if you have subsequent increases...
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	www.designersupps.com www.intelligentdesignmag.com

01-03-2007, 09:14 PM	#26
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	I'm hoping that the strength continues to increase. I'm also noticing the volumizing effects of the creatine as well. There's a noticeable increase in muscle fullness that one gets from creatine products. I haven't noticed a detectable increase in endurance when cycling though. I've used half dose pre and another half dose during or after a ride but can't say it's helped. But then again the ride is only 50 mins so it's hard to notice a difference. I'll try riding early in the morning since the cold weather always negatively impacts endurance. Blood flow to muscles is decreased and cramping is a prevalent side but once I'm warmed up the endurance isn't as bad. I'm not straining to catch my breath. My hope is Xceed will increase bloodflow to muscles on the cold mornings and improve my cardio. Seeing as how Xceed made me feel warmer when snowboarding I think it will prove effect when cycling in the morning as well.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

01-04-2007, 11:22 PM	#27
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Noticed a decrease in muscle soreness today, so while Xceed didn't aid much in endurance it has improved recovery. Soreness is probably half of what it normally is so I rode again but using the same pattern as yesterday. Results were pretty much the same though I would say endurance improved a bit due to improved recovery. The soreness will usually negatively impact endurance but not so today, or at least not as noticably as usualy on back ro back rides.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

01-08-2007, 10:26 PM	#28
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	Back/Chest/ Shoulders day Flat bench press 4 sets of 6,6,4,3 reps (last two sets increase of 15lbs) Flat bench flyes 2 sets of 10 Seated rows 2 sets of 8 Lat pulldowns 4 sets of 10,10,7,5 (increase 10lbs per set) Deadlifts 2 sets of 6 Overhead dumbbell press 2 sets of 8 Lateral dumbbell raises 2 sets of 8 Was able to increase weight on some exercises but it was a bit mroe taxing on the CNS than I anticipated so I was unable to increae reps or weights on other exercises. Pump was good albeit a bit diminished compared to the first couple of weeks. Recovery does seem to be improving though and DOMS is much less pronounced.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266

01-10-2007, 06:54 PM	#29
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	Nice nice. Congrats on the increases. I'm sure that kicking your own butt on the first exercise did you in and you didn't really need the increases elsewhere. Should be interested to see how your body deals with the increase next workout.
WBM Designer Supplements Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 165	www.designersupps.com www.intelligentdesignmag.com

01-11-2007, 10:32 AM	#30
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266	There was a substantial increase in DOMS the next day. I was still able to ride the next morning though. The Xceed helped the muscles warm up quicker so I could push a lot harder quicker into the ride. I noticed the sorenes in the chest and shoulders while trying to bike uphill. This did unfortunately inhibit output as I couldn't get good leverage to really push uphill.
emitecaps Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 266