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Join Date: Oct 2006
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N.O. Limits Log
BODYBUILDING SUPPLEMENTS High Quality Supplements For Bodybuilders and Athletes. www.ironmaglabs.com ]Through the promotion of blood flow and positive nutrient partitioning, Nitric Oxide (NO) has found an elite place amongst bodybuilding and fitness enthusiasts looking to improve their physique. While some products merely do an adequate job of accomplishing this goal, the ideal NO product can produce a proverbial “skin-tearing” pump that provides the perfect physical and mental motivation for training; a product that makes you feel unstoppable in the gym. It is with this concept in mind that Designer Supplements introduces NO Limits™, the evolutionary next step in Nitric Oxide (NO) signalling products.
NO-Limits Writeup NO-Limits FAQ |
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My info
Age: 24 Height: 5' 10" Weight: 174lbs Somatype: Ectopmorph Previous NO products used include White Blood, NOXCG3, AEE, NoXplode and maybe something else. I will be using this in conjunction with Xceed 30-45 minutes preworkout as directed on the bottle. I may change this though according to the intensity of the pump. And I will probably try only N.O. Limits preworkout with Xceed post to determine what synergy if any there is. Also, while the bottle makes no mention of how to dose this on off days the FAQ said it's not necessary so should I not use it then? I was thinking I could still dose on off days maybe even a half dose either upon rising or right before bed. Any suggestions would be appreciated. |
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excellent! yes there is no need to dose on off days, but you most certainly can. i do know some studies have shown benefits taking NO precursors pre-bed. your off-day dosing scheme seems fine, tinker as much as you like.
good luck! |
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Well, I decided to take 6 caps about 20 min before dirt biking along with some gatorade and BCAAs. Arms were pumped 10 mins into the ride which is normal but the pump just kept increasing. Around 25 min into the ride my forearms were so pumped I couldn't open or close my hands, they were cramped up. Biceps, triceps, shoulders, traps, lats and lower back were also decently pumped. I looked down at my forearms though and veins are popping out everywhere and the skin was red! Since I couldn't work the clutch lever or the front brake I had to wait until the pump subsided. After about 25 mins I was able to open and close my hands so I rejoined my friends but sure enough the intense pump came back and I had to rest another 20 mins. After that I decided to return to the truck and call it a day. Just putted around but anytime I pushed it even a little bit I started cramping. Even on the ride home my arms and back were still pumped which was 4 hours after dosing it.
So needless to say the pump was quite intense and not condusive to endurance. I'll try it again when cycling tomorrow but I expect the same results. I may drop the dose to 4 caps though. But when I lift on Monday I'll try 6 caps though I'm not sure whether I'll use Xceed pre or post. |
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wow, so good and bad. were you staying hydrated while riding?
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Yup, I was adequately hydrated. I also tried it Sunday before cycling and nearly the same results. Too much bloodflow to the muscles that it caused some cramping. I've always have favorable results with NO products, I can't recall one that didn't work. I'm not sure if this explains why the pump is so intense or not.
Today's Workout Back/Chest/ Shoulders day Flat bench press 4 sets of 6 reps (+10lbs above normal) Flat bench flyes 2 sets of 10 Seated rows 2 sets of 8 Lat pulldowns 4 sets of 8 (increase 10lbs ) Deadlifts 2 sets of 6 Overhead dumbbell press 2 sets of 8 Lateral dumbbell raises 2 sets of 8 Pump was immediate and after the seated rows were finished my forearms were cramping again. I had to use straps for the remainder of the workout otherwise I couldn't complete it. Sweating was more pronounced and body temp felt hotter than normal. I'm guessing this was the result of the increased bloodflow. My muscles remained pumped for 4 hours though the almost debilitating type pump was gone in 25mins. I dosed both N.O. Limits and Xceed 30 mins preworkout. I'm going to try Xceed post and see if the pumps diminish to a more tolerable level. But so far this product definitely delivers. |
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Yesterday I opted to forego my leg workout and cycle instead. I took 3 caps along with 24 oz of water 30mins before my ride. The pump kicked in immediately and my muscles were warm within minutes of riding. As such I was able to sprint right out of the gate instead of waiting the 10 minutes I normally do. The pump induced by 3 caps was much more tolerable and as a result there was little cramping. It's difficult to assess how much endurance was effected as I was pushing a harder than normal. But I'll use 3 caps for endurance type activities from now on as it provides the right amount of bloodflow to the muscles without cramping or other unwanted sides.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Today's workout
Squats 3 set of 10 Lunges 2 sets of 10 per leg Leg Presses 2 sets of 10 2 sets of 8(+20lbs) Seated Calf Raises 4 sets of 15 Leg Extension 2 sets or 8 Lying Leg Curls 2 sets of 8 Took the full dose of 6 caps preworkout but no Xceed. The lack of Xceed didn't have that much bearing on the intensity of the pump. It was still in full effect and sweating was increased. Pumps were bordering on painful as range of motion was limited. After completion of the workout I could barely walk. Hamstrings were tight and bending of my knees was difficult. As a cool down I used the elliptical for 20 mins but even that didn't help much. But after 10 mins of complete rest the pump subsided enough to drive. So as I came into work today my legs were feeling better and range of motion was around 80%. Then I had to climb some stairs and back came the pump and my legs felt like lead. It's a good thing I can sit on my ass for the next couple of hours to recuperate. Legs are still pumped and feel warmer than the rest of the body. I did dose my Xceed post workout though and it did provide a nice energy pick me up but I wonder if it didn't increase the pump hence my trouble climbing the stairs. |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Sheesh, man...
So is this a "I don't want to take this stuff" painful or do you slightly enjoy it? |
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Actually it's a bit of both in a slightly masochistic way. There's a morbid curiosity to it as you wonder if you could actually experience a skin bursting pump or if you cut a vein will it spray out like a fountain Tarantino style. I'm going to try 4 caps preworkout and see if it's a bit more tolerable though.
Also DOMS seems to be reduced a slight bit but it's too early to attribute it to NO Limits or just coincidence. |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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I was at my relative's house this entire weekend so I didn't use N.O. Limits nor did I exercise at all. But today it's back to normal and it so happens to be arm training. The workout went as followed.
Arms Day standing barbell curl 2x10 standing dumbbell curl 3x8 hammer curls 2x10 tricep pushdowns 3x8 lying tricep extensions 2x6 dumbbell wrist curls 2x8 I took half a dose Xceed pre and postworkout along with 4 caps NOL pre. Pump was great, and vascularity was amazing. Veins were popping out like I had a tourniqet on both arms. There was some minor tightness and reduction in range of motion but no cramping whatsoever. My arms were pumped throughout the day as I noticed that my shirt was fitting tighter in the sleeves. It appears that 4 caps along with the Xceed seems to be the ideal dosing for me. I'll repeat this dosing next workout and see what the results are. |
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great, glad you found the sweet spot and no more painful pumps.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Yesterday's workout
Back/Chest/ Shoulders day Flat bench press 4 sets of 6 reps Flat bench flyes 2 sets of 10 Seated rows 2 sets of 8 Lat pulldowns 4 sets of 8 Deadlifts 2 sets of 6 Overhead dumbbell press 2 sets of 8 Lateral dumbbell raises 2 sets of 8 No increase in weight or reps from prior week's workout but the pump was great. Took 4 caps and it seems to be the sweet spot for me. Intensity was great and the pump really helped me focus on my lifts. As a result I'm feeling more DOMS today. I decided to ride nonetheless and tired 2 caps plus a serving of Xceed. I took it easy though because of the soreness but energy levels were good and endurance felt great too. Hopefully by tomorrow my DOMS will be gone and I can really ride and see how it goes. But so far N.O. Limits is by far the most potent pump product I've used. The biggest challenge has been finding the right dose for lifting and for cardio but now that I think I've found it I can really push myself. |
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thats awesome!
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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I didn't do anything today so I didn't use N.O. Limits as there wasn't any need. I'm going to try N.O. Limits and motocross tomorrow so we shall see how that goes. I think 2 caps plus some xceed should suffice.
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2 caps NO-L and 1 serving Xceed provided a nice pump but it wasn't very condusive to motocross. My forearms still fatigued after half an hour. Whereas when cycling the NO-L improves endurance and initial intensity it does prove useful here.
Today's Workout Squats 3 set of 10(last two 15lbs more than normal) Lunges 2 sets of 10 per leg Leg Presses 2 sets of 10 2 sets of 8(+20lbs) Seated Calf Raises 4 sets of 15 Leg Extension 2 sets or 8 Lying Leg Curls 2 sets of 8 Took 4 caps of NO-L and half serving of Xceed. Once again great pumps right off the bat and I felt like skipping warm-up sets but didn't. Muscles were warmed up instantly and I blew through the warm-up sets. I was able to increase my squat 15lbs for the last two sets. But then my muscles were starting to tighten and burn a little bit so I had to back off on the intensity. Blasted through the rest of the workout like it was nothing and felt great afterward. Once again the pump lasted for a good 4 hours before gradually subsiding. Not any real signs of soreness tonight so I can probably ride tomorrow at a full pace. |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Sorry for the lack of updates, I tried to upgrade my account with my ISP and it turned out to be a nightmare.
I dosed two caps of NO-L and 1 serving Xceed prior to cardio and there is a small increase in endurance. Again, the biggest benefit is warm-up is significantly diminished. Muscles warm up seemingly instantly so I can push at maximal output from the start. No need to warm-up for 15 mins so I notice muscle burn is diminished and I have a bit of extra energy by reducing warm-up period. Arms Day standing barbell curl 2x10 +10lbs standing dumbbell curl 3x8 hammer curls 2x10 tricep pushdowns 3x6 +10lbs lying tricep extensions 2x8 dumbbell wrist curls 2x8 Dosed 4 caps NO-L with a half serving Xceed. Pumps were quite intense but not to the point where it restricted range of motion or caused cramping. Holding the weight at peak contraction alongside the pump really allows you to feel the muscles. Arms felt pumped all day as a result and it was a great workout. |
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Back/Chest/ Shoulders day
Flat bench press 4 sets of 6 reps Flat bench flyes 2 sets of 10 Seated rows 2 sets of 8 Lat pulldowns 4 sets of 8 Deadlifts 2 sets of 6 Overhead dumbbell press 2 sets of 8 Lateral dumbbell raises 2 sets of 8 No increase in weight or reps though it did seem easier to complete the sets. I'm riding the motorcycle tomorrow so I don't want a lot of DOMS hence why I didn't increase weight or reps. Again I took 4 caps and a half serving of Xceed followed by another half dose of Xceed postworkout. Pump was great and I could see some veins in my back which has never happened before. There was any restriction in range of movement though my traps were pumped and made my neck feel stiff. But overall a great workout and the pump lasted for a good 3 hours. When I put on my shirt I noticed it fit tighter and that always brings a bit of satisfaction. |
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Today's Workout
Squats 3 set of 10Lunges 2 sets of 10 per leg Leg Presses 4 sets of 10 Standing Calf Raises 4 sets of 15 Leg Extension 2 sets or 8 Lying Leg Curls 2 sets of 8 Again 4 caps and 1/2 serving Xceed. Pump was a little too intense. I couldn't get my knees to my chest on leg presses nor could I get full extension on leg extensions. Legs were pretty stiff afterwards because the pump was so intense. A solid workout as intensity was up and sweating too. As for the motocros the NO-L just doesn't help with the arm pump so I'm giving up on that endeavor. |
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its probably for the best if it is hindering your riding.
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I've come to that conclusion too. Not good for motocross but still aids in my cycling.
Workout was great today and I love training arms on NO-L. The pumps and vascularity are intense. arms are pumped all day and I even get a pump if I type on the keyboard, wonderful! Arms Day standing barbell curl 2x10 standing dumbbell curl 3x8 hammer curls 2x10 tricep pushdowns 3x6 lying tricep extensions 2x8 dumbbell wrist curls 2x8 |
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Back/Chest/ Shoulders day
Flat bench press 4 sets of 6 reps Flat bench flyes 2 sets of 10 Seated rows 2 sets of 8 Lat pulldowns 4 sets of 8 Deadlifts 2 sets of 6 Overhead dumbbell press 2 sets of 8 Lateral dumbbell raises 2 sets of 8 Got a bug up my butt and decided 6 caps would be a good preworkout dose. Bad idea. The pump just kept increasing and eventually I got some bad lower back tightness and cramping. I had to lie on the bench afterwards with my knees to my chest for about 20mins before it became bearable. So there certainly doesn't seem to be any developing tolerance to the product which I experienced with No-Xplode. Today I noticed a big increase in DOMS in the lower back. So I took an off day and just watched some NBA and NHL playoff games and part of the NFL draft. |
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Today's Workout
Squats 4 sets of 8 Leg Presses 4 sets of 10 Standing Calf Raises 4 sets of 15 Leg Extension 2 sets or 8 Lying Leg Curls 2 sets of 8 4 caps NO-L and 1/2 serving of Xceed. Once again a great pump but causing a bit of tightness. The best thing about the product other than not needing a full dose is that the intensity of the pump doesn't seem to diminish over time like other products do. It's been a month and it still produces intense pumps. Speaking of which I guess this means brings about the end of this log. And looking at the bottle I probably still have at least another month's worth. So a final review shall come sometime this week. |
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**Final Review**
As far as a NO booster it is certainly the most potent I have ever used. Using the full dose caused pumps that were debilitating. But 3-4 caps seemed to be the sweet spot for me. It really didn't increase strength levels but I felt workouts were better as it allowed for better concentration. Also the pumps seemed as strong on day 30 as day 1. With a product like No-Xplode it seemed to lose effectiveness overtime, but it might also be due to caffeine tolerance too. Either way NO-Limits is another solid product from DS and a great no booster, very potent. My only gripe would be that the pumps don't last all day but I've yet to see a product that does. It's also a good product for hte money as you might not need a full dose and since you only use it on workout days it should last close to two months. I still probably have close to a month's worth. In the end though I would not buy this product though as I don't need that level of intensity pumps. Xceed works well enough for my purposes so I'll stick with that. I'll continue to use the NO-Limits though until it's gone. Next up is ActivaTe as I've heard overwhelmingly positive things about it. I'm just not sure whether I want or will need to use 6-oxo with it. But I guess I'll find out as today was the first day of ActivaTe. |
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congrats, and thank you for the log! enjoy the rest of the bottle.
activate will work fine alone, obviously compared with an AI it will be better. |
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Any AI in particualr I should use? I haven't used one in the past so I thought 6-oxo would be a good choice. ATD and others seem to have some sides like joint pain and lowering of libido which doesn't seem to be as prevalent with 6-oxo. I figured since it was the first time using a AI that I should use a milder one. But perhaps something even milder like DIM would be better?
I haven't purchased an AI and I'm not even sure if I'd use it. I heard it was good to have as a precautionary just in case some estrogen related sides should appear. I know that the prescription AIs have some undesired effects such as issues with cholesterol hence my hesitation to use any AI. I did start the ActivaTe today though but nothing to report. Only thing I noticed that it caused some burps that tasted like burnt herbs. |
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6-oxo / activate is a nice combo. i dont rememeber anyone trying it with dim. i would think 6-oxo would be a more powerful combo.
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Okay, I'll give that combo a try, thanks for the advice.
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